3M Sun Gun

Nica said:
dengood1 - Yea, the other house is coming. I'm trying to convice here to go for an acrage but she prefers to stay close to town so will see...lol...next garage will be twice the size and it will have a lift in it :righton: but who knows when that will happen...wife is still in school so school first then when she's done she will get her dream home. That means I won't be getting my vehicle eather :( but that's okay for now. As for the Brinkman I think devst8 got first dibs on the spare Brinkman (not even opened) but I'll keep you posted on the one I currently use..I'd like to continue to use it but will see.
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I was just messin' with ya Carlos.:D The light looks impressive, as it should!;)
 
Carlos, that light is unreal... Big difference..
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dengood1 said:
I was just messin' with ya Carlos.:D The light looks impressive, as it should!;)
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I know bro ;)

Bags - The owner of the BMW hasen't confirmed for this weekend but when she bring's it over I'll post lots of pictures ;)

sparkie - Bro I wished you and I lived near by, we would have somuch fun detailing...I'm still blown away by your Jhondeer :eek: wicked stuff park dud :righton:
 
Wondering if hooking up a spare headlight with a bulb that has similar stats as the Sun Gun would work? 4700°K Kelvin bulb would be easy to find. Making a stand and a power source could be loads of Fun! Maybe try pointing a headlight at a panel first to see if it's even worth the effort.

Sun Gun's numbers,
Standard Mode > The Lux rating at 2’ or .6 meters is 1416.7
High Intensity Mode > The Lux rating at 2’ or .6 meters is 2968.8
4700°K Kelvin
 
YoMike said:
Wondering if hooking up a spare headlight with a bulb that has similar stats as the Sun Gun would work? 4700°K Kelvin bulb would be easy to find. Making a stand and a power source could be loads of Fun! Maybe try pointing a headlight at a panel first to see if it's even worth the effort.

Sun Gun's numbers,
Standard Mode > The Lux rating at 2’ or .6 meters is 1416.7
High Intensity Mode > The Lux rating at 2’ or .6 meters is 2968.8
4700°K Kelvin
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I've actually looked in to this too, making your own that is. It can be done, the easy part is gathering all the parts to make it what's difficult (to me that is, because I'm very limited in programing) is the chip processor/brain of the machine. The bulb you can get, it's the programing behind it that makes it unique...I still scratch my head as I try to dig deeper in to the programing.

I'll be heading to the garage shortly, and I'll post comparisons of the Brinkman Vs this Sun Gun. The hardest thing is how to use it properly. It's nice having all the equipment makint it work/learning how to utelize is is the best part :righton: I had a hard time getting used to the Brinkman...not sure why :confused: so I'll see how this new gun goes for me. But I'll post pictures and let you guys judge for your self.
 
Al-53 said:
Nice light Carlos...LOL...I knew you were going to get one after the guy from England was hot for one....they are the best...it shows the true color of the paint for color matching.....and shows all swirls and defects..

be careful with it..the batttery is 98.00 to replace and the bulb is close to 60.00 I think....any ways you got the top of the line light....


Enjoy it and have fun....

Al
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hi al , and nica , england lol i wont take that as an insult .
glad you got the sun gun , i changed my mind for now ive got a brinkman , but i think ill get a rotary first , as my pc isnt up to the last few details ive done.
been looking at a metabo12-175
 
Nica- any pictures of this on a vehicle yet? It's really bright but I wonder how it'll do to find swirls? It seems like it is a little wide in the pictures making spot checking for swirls a little harder.
 
thats just it budman the wider beam illuminates a bigger area , so its easier to spot the defects
 
True but with halogens, there is about 2-3 inches that show swirls but not much elsewhere and that throws off a wide beam... Even the brinkmann has that narrow range for close up swirl checking.
 
when i say a bigger area , i think its the consistancy of the bigger area i meant , like with the brinkman you have the centre part of the beam sort of fades out , the sun gun seems to have less fade on the edge of the beam
 
peter richards said:
when i say a bigger area , i think its the consistancy of the bigger area i meant , like with the brinkman you have the centre part of the beam sort of fades out , the sun gun seems to have less fade on the edge of the beam
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Yeah, I am seeing that now. It seems like the whole beam is even where other lights are brighter in the center, which is where I look at swirls. I'm just being curious :o
 
Budman..its actually the color rendition of the light beam...its the closest light to actual sunlight and shows true colors...and in doing so it shows defects better....I the think the color rendition index is 98.9%....may be higher...the light was actually designed to color match paint...

AL
 
Man, I'd rather be at at work then at home. Wife want's me to do everything lol.

Okay I'll try to answer some of the questions, please don't think I'm an expert on the Sun Gun because as some of you know I just got it and the first vehicle I used it on was my Volvo which is in good shape, well as best shape as it’s going to be besides painting the front.

First of all, Peter the Metabo is a very nice tool. I can’t say anything bad about the Metabo, it has plenty of power and your body will love it too. I find that I can detail for many hours with out getting tired and I have done it :D.

Budman3, I’ve only used the Gun on my Volvo. I’ll be doing a vehicle coming up this weekend that will require full correction, including touch up paint for some really deep scratches. I used it on my Volvo and it actually showed a lots of places that I missed from my first detail to the Volvo. It finds them really easy compared to the Brinkman. Like Al said it’s so close to sun light and we all know that a true test to a detail is the sun, so having a portable sun comes in handy. Oh and yes, the beam is even. One thing I’ll say though is that I had to adjust my self when using the Sun Gun compared to the Brinkman. The Brinkman works great but sometimes the light is tricky, but with the Sun Gun no trick, what you see is what you get I mean it, nothing hides from it oh even when I did a poor job of removing the polish. Yup, it showed the excess film that I left from not wiping properly. Works great, but I’m looking forward to using it for full corrections, actually I’m looking forward to that BMW I did. That white colour, I think, should be a good test for the Sun Gun. White is a very tricky colour. I hope this helps a little.

Oh as Al mentioned the Color Rendering Index (CRI) is actually 99.35. Now that’s what the manual says. Al not trying to correct you or for you to take it the wrong way but just saying what the manual says bro. But any who, that is absolutely the highest CRI value I have seen. Even my friend who owns his own lighting place told me that is extremely high.

Well I hope this helps guys/gals, if you have more questions feel free to ask and I’ll try to answer them. I find that the best way to show what any thing can do is by seeing it in action so next vehicle I do expect pictures of the 3M in action.
 
Thanks for the info Nica. I'll be waiting for some pics :).
 
budman3 said:
Thanks for the info Nica. I'll be waiting for some pics :).
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You got it budman :cheers:
 
Nica, any news on feasability of Sun Gun as swirl finder, especially when compared to Brinkmann?
 
ZoranC - Well I personaly find the 3M really does bring out the swirls alot better then the Brinkman. I've been using it and I'm glad I have it, specially on light colour vehicles. Take a look at the following pictures, they are from the Toyota Sienna I detailed:

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Sun Gun in action

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As you can see the swirls come up really well, no need to look at an angle or anything like that. What you see with the 3M Sun Gun is what you get.

You can read the full detail here:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/8575-1999-toyota-sienna.html

Hope this helps, I got another one vehicle this weekend and it's black :righton: I'll take pictures of the swirls with the Sun Gun and I'll post them up just so you can see the difference for your self.
 
Nica said:
Well I personaly find the 3M really does bring out the swirls alot better then the Brinkman. ... As you can see the swirls come up really well, no need to look at an angle or anything like that.
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Thank you! So they are much easier to spot? What about distance, with Brinkmann you have to keep on varying distance and angle trying to catch them. Does distance matter? Is there any "hunting" you need to do? Or it just easily exposes them like naked truth in no time flat?

Also, have you tried using it while being outside in sunlight? I am in Southern California and do not have luxury of garage, I work outside, under canopy / shade if I am lucky.
 
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