3M Sun Gun

Yes, I find that with the Sun Gun I can find the swirls/imperfections much faster. Distance, nope distance dosen't matter...well for example the first picture I posted was a few steps back and the other one was a bit closer. The only difference is that when your further away you get the overal picture, just like in the first picture. When your closer, your concentrating on a specific panel and everything will show. No need to look at an angle and specially no "hunting" for swirls/imperfections. In general when I use the Sun Gun swirls/imperfections are easy so locate. Oh specially when doing a final inspection, really helps out becuase if you missed anythign it wil stand out.

I actually haven't used the Sun Gun outside, I always detail inside my garage or jus inside. I honestly don't know how you guys can do it outside, I couldn't stand it all the dust flying around and the elements...but then again I'm fortunet to have a garage. If I ever do one outside I'll keep you in mind. I've seen other guys use it outside and I've been told that it works the same. But that's about all I know about it being used outside.
 
Nica said:
Yes, I find that with the Sun Gun I can find the swirls/imperfections much faster. ... In general when I use the Sun Gun swirls/imperfections are easy so locate.
Click to expand...
This is very encouraging as I have very hard time finding them with Brinkmann, especially under changing light conditions. One moment I think surface is good, later I find I was wrong :(

Nica said:
If I ever do one outside I'll keep you in mind.
Click to expand...
Well, you do have black car coming this weekend so it would be interesting to try to use Sun Gun outside to try to identify swirls and see how easy/accurate it is outside compared to inside (once it is pulled inside going once over should show which spots you missed). :D
 
ZoranC said:
Thank you! So they are much easier to spot? What about distance, with Brinkmann you have to keep on varying distance and angle trying to catch them. Does distance matter? Is there any "hunting" you need to do? Or it just easily exposes them like naked truth in no time flat?
Click to expand...

I am so close to ordering one myself..... I would also like to know if any "hunting" is needed to find swirls. I have a brinkman and I dont really think its that effective, I prefer a halogen over it.
 
Nope, no hunting is required with the Sun Gun. When you point and turn it on if you see swirls they are there if you dont they are not there. No need to go on a hunt for swirls, trust me I've done the hunting hahahaha
 
ZoranC said:
Well, you do have black car coming this weekend so it would be interesting to try to use Sun Gun outside to try to identify swirls and see how easy/accurate it is outside compared to inside (once it is pulled inside going once over should show which spots you missed). :D
Click to expand...

I'll take some pictures of inspecting the paint with the Sun Gun, but I don't detail the vehicle out side...I don't know just get my head around polishing out side :o :o

I'll post them up for you, so hopefully you will be seeing the pictures on Sunday or late Saturday.
 
Nica said:
I'll take some pictures of inspecting the paint with the Sun Gun, but I don't detail the vehicle out side...
Click to expand...
No wasting time on pictures is needed, your word is enough, only thing I need to know is is it good in revealing flaws under the outside sunlight / bright sun as it is in the inside. Imagine you are at the parking lot / car show where you have no way of pulling car in and you want to inspect paint without missing anything and ask yourself how good it is under such conditions and how quickly you can do it.
 
ZoranC said:
No wasting time on pictures is needed, your word is enough, only thing I need to know is is it good in revealing flaws under the outside sunlight / bright sun as it is in the inside. Imagine you are at the parking lot / car show where you have no way of pulling car in and you want to inspect paint without missing anything and ask yourself how good it is under such conditions and how quickly you can do it.
Click to expand...

oh okay gotchat, I understand you now. I will let you know but I will do my best to take pictures, good pictures so you can see what I see.
 
Great info on the Sun Gun Nica! Funny, the BMW dealer is interested in one as well and I told him the Brinkmann was probably better suited for me at the shop.....maybe I need to re-think my opinion after seeing the difference in the pictures.

Toto
 
FMINUS - You'll love it buddy, let me know when you receive it :righton:

Master Toto - The best thing about the Sun Gun is that when you detail inside your missing out on the true test to a fine detail, that is the Sun. Sun show's all. With the Sun Gun I've found places that I've missed and are as easy to find them as when having the vehicle out side under direct sunlight. No need to look at an angle just point and turn on and the swirls/imprefections are there. Glad I could shed some light my friend hahaha get it "shed some light" hahaha...aham so yes this weekend I got a black vehicle so I'll do my best to show some pictures with the Sun Gun in action.
 
That is one amazing tool Nica, congrats on the purchase. A very VERY expensive tool, but a very good one nonetheless.

Perhaps all of us who cannot afford it can just tape about 5 Brinkmann's together?
 
FMINUS said:
:righton: Sun Gun Ordered!!!!!!!!!!!
Click to expand...
Congratulations! Bring it over when you are to pick up Metabo from me so I can see it in action ;) :D
 
ZoranC said:
Congratulations! Bring it over when you are to pick up Metabo from me so I can see it in action ;) :D
Click to expand...

Take my offer and its a deal!
 
What did I see $200 for a Metabo I WANT ONE!!! ME...MEE..MMMMMMMEEEEE...hahahaha actually since I'm going to be giving my Makita away as per original plan I was thinking of getting another Metabo...you know just in case I have visitors that feel brave and want to polish ;)...hahaha actually I don't want to get rid of the Makita...mmmm...
 
Nica said:
What did I see $200 for a Metabo I WANT ONE!!! ME...MEE..MMMMMMMEEEEE...
Click to expand...
$230 is what I was asking, $200 is what he is offering. Did I say he is very funny, if not hillarious? I am laughing so hard I think price just went up.
 
Last edited:
ZoranC said:
Well, you do have black car coming this weekend so it would be interesting to try to use Sun Gun outside to try to identify swirls and see how easy/accurate it is outside compared to inside (once it is pulled inside going once over should show which spots you missed). :D
Click to expand...

Okay, I'll do my best to answer your question. Now to be clear, your question is as follows. You wanted me to try the 3M Sun Gun outside during regular day light to see if the Sun Gun would pick up the swirls, then bring the vehicle inside the garage and inspect the vehicle again for swirls with the Sun Gun to see if I missed any swirls. That's how interpret your question, if that is the case then I'm happy to report that the Sun Gun during broad day light most definitely show's all the swirls. Keep in mind that the vehicle that I inspected was the black RSX I just detailed. Two things helped the Sun Gun illuminate the swirls. One was the colour of the vehicle and the other factor was that the vehicle was in really rough shape. But yes, the Sun Gun really showed the swirls even with the sun hitting the same panel I was pointing at. But on panels where the sun was hitting it was redundant to point the Sun Gun at because the real sun showed all the imperfections/swirls if anything the Sun Gun just added more light to the area/panel.

As for indoors vs outdoors, indoors is much better because there isn’t that much light. Mind you I have plenty of lights in my garage but even then it doesn’t compare to the true sun. So finding swirls inside my garage was easy, but I found it just as easy to locate swirls when I was outside during a sunny day.

Now as for pictures, regretfully the pictures I took didn't turn out as great as I had hoped. They are to blurry and out of focus, they don't even show the swirls so this weekend I have another vehicle lined up so I'll try to get better pictures for you.

Now please confirm if that is the question you were trying to get across. I hope this helps but I feel that pictures would have been better...sorry :( I'll get better pictures for you coming up.
 
Nica said:
Okay, I'll do my best to answer your question. Now to be clear, your question is as follows. You wanted me to try the 3M Sun Gun outside during regular day light to see if the Sun Gun would pick up the swirls, then bring the vehicle inside the garage and inspect the vehicle again for swirls with the Sun Gun to see if I missed any swirls. That's how interpret your question ... Now please confirm if that is the question you were trying to get across.
Click to expand...
Nica, first and foremost, thank you!

Regarding do you interpret my question correctly, well, it is yes and no. Yes, I wanted you to try Sun Gun during regular daylight to see if it would pick up the swirls, then bring the vehicle inside the garage and inspect the vehicle again for swirls with the Sun Gun to see if you missed any swirls.

However, testing with car under direct sun is not what I was trying to find out results of. I was trying to find out results under conditions that make both Brinkmann and unassisted naked eye worthless, like no direct point of light like sun above yet daylight that is strong enough to not give Brinkmann chance to be stronger and cause contrast. Strong daylight yet not contrast causing swirl revealing daylight. Am I managing to express myself somewhat clearly or I am just making it worse?
 
Club member #2! Who's NEXT?
dsc02591vr2.jpg

URL%5D
 
Hey Zoran, Maybe we should trade Festool for Sun Gun?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top