6.5" pads on Flex: Flat, CCS, or Hybrid?

[jimbob]

To those using 6.5" pads on the flex....are you using these on the standard 5.5" backing plate?

Aren't the pads a little too big for the plate?

 

[Rsurfer]

To those using 6.5" pads on the flex....are you using these on the standard 5.5" backing plate?

Aren't the pads a little too big for the plate?

No!

 

[jimbob]

No!

Okay!!

 

[dlc95]

To those using 6.5" pads on the flex....are you using these on the standard 5.5" backing plate?

Aren't the pads a little too big for the plate?

I use them on the stock backing plate.

I have the 4 3/8" plate for my 5" pads.

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

To those using 6.5" pads on the flex....are you using these on the standard 5.5" backing plate?

Aren't the pads a little too big for the plate?

If you are using the 6.5" Hybrids use the factory 5.5" plate.

If you are using other 6.5" pads such as the Hydrotech pads you need the 6" plate from the LC plate system.

 

[jimbob]

If you are using the 6.5" Hybrids use the factory 5.5" plate.



If you are using other 6.5" pads such as the Hydrotech pads you need the 6" plate from the LC plate system.

Cheers mate. Care to explain?

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Cheers mate. Care to explain?

The Hybrid pads have a bevel on the back side and taper down from 1" from actual pad size. On the 6.5" pad there is a 5.5" Velcro attaching material. On other pads such as the Hybrids, Flats, and others, there is no bevel on the back size and has the normal 1/4" smaller Velcro material on the back side.

Give me some time. I will provide pics to show this.

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Care to explain?

Below are pictures from a pair of LC 6.5" pads. On the left is the standard 6.5" flat pad. On the right is the 6.5" Hybrid pad.

Notice the bevel and how it shrinks down to a 5.5" Velcro material.

Here is the proper larger 6" plate from the LC plate system attached. See how the plate supports the pad completely?

Here is the standard 5.5" Flex plate mounted to the 6.5" Hybrid pad. This is a perfect match.

Side by side comparison shots

Hope this helps.

 

[dlc95]

Below are pictures from a pair of LC 6.5" pads. On the left is the standard 6.5" flat pad. On the right is the 6.5" Hybrid pad.

Notice the bevel and how it shrinks down to a 5.5" Velcro material.

Here is the proper larger 6" plate from the LC plate system attached. See how the plate supports the pad completely?

Here is the standard 5.5" Flex plate mounted to the 6.5" Hybrid pad. This is a perfect match.

Side by side comparison shots

Hope this helps.

That helps a lot!

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Here's what I'm looking for:

What do you use?
Why do you like it?

In the forum world I rarely make real definitive statements on what I really like for a number of reasons. When I wrote my how-to book on the Flex 3401 I made it pretty clear which pads I like.

No, no, guys I OWN 5" hybrid pads, they're great for handling, but they are way too small to do the entire SUV my wife and I just purchased. I need a bigger pad for those big body panels to save some time.

Yep... I cover that in the book to plus how to approach BIG cars as in the style "you" must use to use to buff them out.

They obviously make a 6.5" hybrid pad as well, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of info out on it.

I included as much information about the actual foam itself in the how-to book also.

Oh good Lord, I give up...

This is what I was thinking initially, but sometimes the change in size of a pad effects the characteristics of how the machine operates,

I cover that too... that is the "operating characteristics" of the tool when using small pads versus big pads.

So, either folks don't read for content, or those pads really are that good.

I've been posting to the Interweb that I can document back to 1994. I think I have paper print outs of my posts that go back to 1993 stored in California. I'll be able to find out at the end of March.

Here's an article I wrote that was posted to the MR2 website that includes in the header where I worked and the date I posted it.

How to Polish Paint by Hand by Mike Phillips

Here's the header....

Article: 6811 of rec.autos.misc
From: mike_d_phillips%[email protected] (mike phillips)
Subject: How to Polish Paint by Hand (long)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 16:42:05 GMT




Excuse the typos as I don't think MS Word had been invented back then or at least I wasn't using it. It does show that I've been posting "how-to" information for over 20 years now... not a bad run... don't know of anyone else that can document this kind of time span.



Point being...
I've been writing and posting to the Internet for over 20 years now and one thing I've learned is people tend to be SCANNERS.

They don't read they scan. Not everyone but it does seem to be the norm... so don't take it personal I never do and if you read enough of my replies in threads you'll see me answering question by copying and pasting something I already wrote in the original post or a follow-up post that the person asking the question missed because they were scanning.

:laughing:

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Here's what I'm looking for:

What do you use?
Why do you like it?

Well the how-to book is $20.00. It took a lot of time and thinking to write especially since I know what a tough crowd you forum guys are. (again I have a little experience with forum guys)

One of my favorite quotes is from Henry Ford and it goes like this,

"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason so few engage in it."


Plus it's all based on real-world hands-on experience.

I'm not like other book writers that interview people for their information I actually buff out the cars in my how-to books. I walk the talk.


Besides the the little tidbits of information in the three pictures below that answer your questions there's actually a TON of great information in my how-to book on everything related to this tool including how to use it to make money.

In fact, I think anyone buying a tool at $360.00 plus all the related items to go with it should also get a copy of my book and read it from cover to cover before even taking the tool out of the box. But that's just my opinion and of coarse when it comes to my how-to book I'm a little biased.

The recommendation on page 4 alone sets you on a path to success before you even turn the polisher on.


This is from page 11

This is from page 13

If you PM me your shipping address and promise to write a fair and balanced review of my how-to book I'll send you a free copy. I would ask that you read it and not just scan it.

:laughing:

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

That helps a lot!

:xyxthumbs:

 

[aim4squirrels]

Well the how-to book is $20.00. It took a lot of time and thinking to write especially since I know what a tough crowd you forum guys are. (again I have a little experience with forum guys)

One of my favorite quotes is from Henry Ford and it goes like this,

"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason so few engage in it."


Plus it's all based on real-world hands-on experience.

I'm not like other book writers that interview people for their information I actually buff out the cars in my how-to books. I walk the talk.


Besides the the little tidbits of information in the three pictures below that answer your questions there's actually a TON of great information in my how-to book on everything related to this tool including how to use it to make money.

In fact, I think anyone buying a tool at $360.00 plus all the related items to go with it should also get a copy of my book and read it from cover to cover before even taking the tool out of the box. But that's just my opinion and of coarse when it comes to my how-to book I'm a little biased.

The recommendation on page 4 alone sets you on a path to success before you even turn the polisher on.


This is from page 11

This is from page 13

If you PM me your shipping address and promise to write a fair and balanced review of my how-to book I'll send you a free copy. I would ask that you read it and not just scan it.

:laughing:

Wow, lots of traffic in this old thread, but awesome if it's helping others.

Mike,

That's a really awesome offer, and I do appreciate it. I may very well take you up on that offer, so long as you promise not to hold me to a review date before summer. As a school teacher I don't have dedicated time to get to this really fast, and my wife has already made plans for my spring break involving home improvements, LOL.

I made this thread over a year ago, and I still haven't gotten around to buffing out her vehicle yet. Life, and a 2 year old will do that to you. I need to make it a point to get it done this summer, though.

 

[jimbob]

Below are pictures from a pair of LC 6.5" pads. On the left is the standard 6.5" flat pad. On the right is the 6.5" Hybrid pad.

Notice the bevel and how it shrinks down to a 5.5" Velcro material.

Here is the proper larger 6" plate from the LC plate system attached. See how the plate supports the pad completely?

Here is the standard 5.5" Flex plate mounted to the 6.5" Hybrid pad. This is a perfect match.

Side by side comparison shots

Hope this helps.

Thanks heaps!! So much info!!

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Thanks heaps!! So much info!!

:xyxthumbs:

 

[Paul A.]

To sum it up, both Mike's provided perfect answers, as usual. 6.5" hybrid pads with the Flex BP for the large real estate panels and 5" hybrids for smaller. And Mike P...i read every word! Thanks for yet another perfect response. And Mike in Germany...perfect pictorial evidence.