6in Orbital to 15mm

[AaronE]

Hey everyone (I'm just full of questions today), I'm kicking the idea of upgrading the 6in DA to the BOSS 15mm throw orbital.

How does the 15mm throw handle curves compared to the 8mm throw? Do you notice a real difference in the amount of time you spend working on compounding and polishing? Does the added power make a difference during your process? Are these differences worth the added cost?

Thanks for you input!

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[VISITOR]

the larger the stroke, the more prone to stalling (you'll have to adjust to the panel/contour) and that's with any/all long throw polishers. the advantage is it will cover more ground, be smoother, and more comfortable to use. that's why it's ideal to have a few different polishers. keep your current polisher and equip it with a smaller pad set-up..

 

[AaronE]

the larger the stroke, the more prone to stalling (you'll have to adjust to the panel/contour) and that's with any/all long throw polishers. the advantage is it will cover more ground, be smoother, and more comfortable to use. that's why it's ideal to have a few different polishers. keep your current polisher and equip it with a smaller pad set-up..

I'm running a 5in pad on it. I use the Lake Country flat pads right now. I'm considering switching to the thin pads though.

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[392hemi]

I went from a Porter Cable 7424 to a Boss 21, no issues or stalling. Made work on my Dodge Charger, buddys Challenger and Titan truck go so much faster.

I'm not a pro, but with a kid, work and other life, I dont have as much time to detail. The Griots 21 was a dream! I also have the 5inch backing plate for the G21. My PC now has a 3inch BP for smaller areas.

 

[392hemi]

Also give this a read

Wait, WHAT? What do you NOT like about your polisher??

 

[PaulMys]

I'm running a 5in pad on it. I use the Lake Country flat pads right now. I'm considering switching to the thin pads though.

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I found that the thin pads were better on my PC. But Dan (dlc95) turned me on to the "light touch method". I swear it works. Just keep enough pressure on the surface to keep it spinning max RPM's while using a great abrasive, and you can get great results using even thicker (7/8") pads.

FWIW, I am a big Lake Country flat pad fan.

 

[AaronE]

I went from a Porter Cable 7424 to a Boss 21, no issues or stalling. Made work on my Dodge Charger, buddys Challenger and Titan truck go so much faster.

I'm not a pro, but with a kid, work and other life, I dont have as much time to detail. The Griots 21 was a dream! I also have the 5inch backing plate for the G21. My PC now has a 3inch BP for smaller areas.

I'm in the same boat with my time being limited due to family, work, military, school, life, and probably two other things I cannot even think of right now. How much time would you say you saved? I.e. 25% 50%, etc. Just a ballpark guess.

 

[AaronE]

I found that the thin pads were better on my PC. But Dan (dlc95) turned me on to the "light touch method". I swear it works. Just keep enough pressure on the surface to keep it spinning max RPM's while using a great abrasive, and you can get great results using even thicker (7/8") pads.

FWIW, I am a big Lake Country flat pad fan.

I do try to keep a light had on my GG6in (~ 5lbs of pressure is my goal) and run Megs Mirror Glaze polishing products (M105/205 combo usually). I don't notice too much bogging down with the flat pads myself honestly. I just figured if they weren't helping my work time then I'd consider a switch. I'm namely trying to save some time without sacrificing the ability to have a machine to tackle whatever project body shape I take on.

 

[392hemi]

I'm in the same boat with my time being limited due to family, work, military, school, life, and probably two other things I cannot even think of right now. How much time would you say you saved? I.e. 25% 50%, etc. Just a ballpark guess.

I was dealing with an auto body shop and "detailer" that destroyed my immaculate finish. The PC was just taking too long to work and could not get to 100 percent.

See here

https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...elp-detailer-trashed-my-paint.html?highlight=

Being OCD and annoyed at stalling of the PC on my hood, I bought the Boss G21. A couple of things, it is a lot smoother and less taxing on my body than the PC, I would say it cut my time in half.

You can't go wrong with any of the upgrades in machines, be it 15, 21. Rupes, Flex or Griots.

I got my car back to 99.99 percent and the G21 did not stall. I've done other larger cars, it just is so much faster due to the longer stroke and power. Takes way less passes.

 

[AaronE]

I was dealing with an auto body shop and "detailer" that destroyed my immaculate finish. The PC was just taking too long to work and could not get to 100 percent.

See here

https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...elp-detailer-trashed-my-paint.html?highlight=

Being OCD and annoyed at stalling of the PC on my hood, I bought the Boss G21. A couple of things, it is a lot smoother and less taxing on my body than the PC, I would say it cut my time in half.

You can't go wrong with any of the upgrades in machines, be it 15, 21. Rupes, Flex or Griots.

I got my car back to 99.99 percent and the G21 did not stall. I've done other larger cars, it just is so much faster due to the longer stroke and power. Takes way less passes.

You're definitely talking me into going for the G21 instead now. With a smaller pad (5in plate and 5.5in diameter, 1/2in thick LC flat pad) I shouldn't bog down on the curves of the cars or the airplanes (the REALLY time draining/life sucking polishing projects I do) I would imagine.

 

[Me Time]

AaronE, did you make the switch to a long throw? I have the GG2 and was having the same thoughts as you.

And, think you for your service. It is appreciated.

 

[AaronE]

AaronE, did you make the switch to a long throw? I have the GG2 and was having the same thoughts as you.

And, think you for your service. It is appreciated.

Thank you for your support! I love what I get to do for bug blue (it's actually drill weekend for me).

I did jump to a 21mm orbital and love it! It made fast work with D-166 on a car that had never been detailed (2002 Lincoln LS). I "bacon crisped" one pad just a little from heating it up (I learned with a regular LC flat pad to brush it every pass and do shorter section passes). I love how fast it is to correct paint with it!

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[fightnews]

Hey everyone (I'm just full of questions today), I'm kicking the idea of upgrading the 6in DA to the BOSS 15mm throw orbital.

How does the 15mm throw handle curves compared to the 8mm throw? Do you notice a real difference in the amount of time you spend working on compounding and polishing? Does the added power make a difference during your process? Are these differences worth the added cost?

Thanks for you input!

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the griots is only good for flat panels, the stall is awful. Buy the Rupes MarkIII they have made huge improvements with that model as far as stalling. It basically doesn't stall.

 

[AaronE]

the griots is only good for flat panels, the stall is awful. Buy the Rupes MarkIII they have made huge improvements with that model as far as stalling. It basically doesn't stall.

The 21mm I bought isn't sold by Autogeek sadly but I did not have any bog down or stall on the Lincoln LS I buffed with an LC flat pad and the thin pro.

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[DETAILROOKIE]

the griots is only good for flat panels, the stall is awful. Buy the Rupes MarkIII they have made huge improvements with that model as far as stalling. It basically doesn't stall.

That's interesting because my Griots 15 never stalled in curves like my Rupes 15MKII. With the extra power of the G15 I was able to overcome most stalling.

If you are still interested in getting rid of your G15, I will definitely take it off your hands.

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[AaronE]

What kind of curves are you working? Everyone seems to have a different definition. When I was shopping brands I leaned heavy towards Griots due to price and ability (the winner not from AG sadly had the power, ergonomics, and better price point) and when I spoke with them on the phone, they said that the curves most people talk about are on more exotic cars. I detail Detroit steel (being a rust belt kid and dedicated to American cars) as a DIYer so.its right up my alley.

They have some attachment that helps with large curves to prevent stalling if needed

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[DETAILROOKIE]

What kind of curves are you working? Everyone seems to have a different definition. When I was shopping brands I leaned heavy towards Griots due to price and ability (the winner not from AG sadly had the power, ergonomics, and better price point) and when I spoke with them on the phone, they said that the curves most people talk about are on more exotic cars. I detail Detroit steel (being a rust belt kid and dedicated to American cars) as a DIYer so.its right up my alley.

They have some attachment that helps with large curves to prevent stalling if needed

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I had a Nissan Juke, Genesis Coupe, and now a Mazda6, which are all pretty curvy and there was some stalling, but most of the time, it was overcome with moving up in speed or change in grip to keep the pad flat.

I love Griots due to the phenomenal customer service and warranty. I have and like Rupes as well, but if I need a polisher to hammer out some paint defects, I find myself going for my GG6 or G21 more often than my Rupes 15MKII.

With the types of cars you are working with, the G15 would do great.

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[VISITOR]

but most of the time, it was overcome with moving up in speed or change in grip to keep the pad flat.

you bring up a great point DR. here's a video by joe (nextlevelautodetail) where there are many curves and narrow/thin panels on this vehicle and he does exactly what you just mentioned by adjusting his technique...

 

[AaronE]

I never saw the technique video there but I guess I did it intuitively if I ran into a problem, but I honestly don't remember even having one.

I'm like you DR, I use my 21mm DA for a lot of my work now and then my GG6 for large areas I can't easily use my 21mm. And if that's still too big, I have a 3mm rotary from the company who makes my 21mm DA that does the job.

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[Bruno Soares]

the griots is only good for flat panels, the stall is awful. Buy the Rupes MarkIII they have made huge improvements with that model as far as stalling. It basically doesn't stall.

I've never had issues with my G15 stalling. Works great.