A Guessing Game: Is this car wearing wax or sealant?

Now, let's see the bad swirls quickly appearing without any protection. Im the MAN
 
Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
Are you implying that lsp (wax / sealant) protect from swirls?
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Lol. :nomore:

Do the test yourself... Strip any LSP from your car, polish the hell out of it, do a 50/50 shot comparing an unprotected area with let's say 3 layers of Klasse SG.

Keep us updated 3-4 months later!
 
Xcessiv said:
Lol. :nomore:

Do the test yourself... Strip any LSP from your car, polish the hell out of it, do a 50/50 shot comparing an unprotected area with let's say 3 layers of Klasse SG.

Keep us updated 3-4 months later!
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Just making sure that was what you were implying

LSP will not prevent/protect against swirls...
 
Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
Just making sure that was what you were implying

LSP will not prevent/protect against swirls...
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It's more the opposite...

I wasn't surprised at all when I read your answer about this finish being LSP-free. A wax/sealant applied on a perfectly polished surface, unless you put manyyyyy layers, won't improve the finish.

On the other hand, it WILL protect against swirl-inducing contacts. I'm not talking about show waxes like Souveran, I'm talking about real protection like Collinite or Klasse.
 
Xcessiv said:
It's more the opposite...

I wasn't surprised at all when I read your answer about this finish being LSP-free. A wax/sealant applied on a perfectly polished surface, unless you put manyyyyy layers, won't improve the finish.

On the other hand, it WILL protect against swirl-inducing contacts. I'm not talking about show waxes like Souveran, I'm talking about real protection like Collinite or Klasse.
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I have polished out customer cars and applied Colli and Klasse (obviously not on the same car:xyxthumbs:) only to have the customer return months later with wash induced swirls which is why my experience has shown that they will not protect from swirls...
 
Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
I have polished out customer cars and applied Colli and Klasse (obviously not on the same car:xyxthumbs:) only to have the customer return months later with wash induced swirls which is why my experience has shown that they will not protect from swirls...
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Lol it's not like a clear bra or something, but it'll greatly reduce them.

You should also teach the proper washing techniques as I do for all my customers.
 
Xcessiv said:
You should also teach the proper washing techniques as I do for all my customers.
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That is part of my standard operating procedure after each and every detail.... I also sell products to my customers post detail

Teaching a customer and them doing it properly is sometimes two different animals
 
Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
That is part of my standard operating procedure after each and every detail.... I also sell products to my customers post detail

Teaching a customer and them doing it properly is sometimes two different animals
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I agree.

Some tips that I've learned from the past...
1) Tell them that if they apply the techniques, next time it'll cost them 33% less because you can skip 1 step
2) I give, for free, ~20oz of ONR to all my customers and ask them to add it to each bucket even if it's a regular wash. It does miracles. Since they don't have to pay for it, it motivates them to use it
3) Emphasize on the fact that swirls/scratches aren't caused by rain, aren't caused by regular wear, 90% of them are caused by improper washing techniques
 
Xcessiv said:
I agree.

Some tips that I've learned from the past...
1) Tell them that if they apply the techniques, next time it'll cost them 33% less because you can skip 1 step
2) I give, for free, ~20oz of ONR to all my customers and ask them to add it to each bucket even if it's a regular wash. It does miracles. Since they don't have to pay for it, it motivates them to use it
3) Emphasize on the fact that swirls/scratches aren't caused by rain, aren't caused by regular wear, 90% of them are caused by improper washing techniques
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Yep....

I advise all customers that if they follow my directions on how to maintain we should never have to be as agressive as the first visit

I do not give free product

Yep... I discuss quite extensively the nature/cause of inclusions and how to prevent them


Sounds like we are pretty much on the same page as far as post detail consulation is considered:dblthumb2:
 
Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
Sounds like we are pretty much on the same page as far as post detail consulation is considered:dblthumb2:
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Hehehehe yes. :props:

But we aren't on the same page as far as good sealants protecting against swirls; not 100%, but enough to see a difference.
 
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