Advice needed - Equipment for Auto Detailing

[Mike93]

Good Afternoon,

First off forgive me if I posted to the wrong Forum as I'm new here. I'm looking for some advice with regard to purchasing equipment to start off auto detailing on the weekends as a sideline. I'm working with a limited budget, as I need to cater for shipping as well as import duties etc.... I'm looking at spending around $200 USD so I want to make sure I buy smart. Currently I'm just looking for the basics to get me started, and I can always purchase additional items as I go along. So far, I've got the following in my amazon cart:

1. Porter Cable 7424XP (Does not come with counterweight or wrench)
2. Chemical Guys 6.5in Buffing Pad Kit (7 Pads and a bottle of Pad Cleaner)
3. Astro 6 inch Backing Plate
4. Mother's Carpet and Upholstery Brush
5. Mother's Detail Brush Set (2 Pack)

These items come up to $205.

I've already got a wet/dry vac which I plan on upgrading at a later date, but that should work for now. I'll buy the Microfibre towels, Carwash soap, compound, polish and wax/sealant locally.


Anything I left out that would be necessary in the start up stages? Does the combination of stuff I'm buying from Amazon make sense? Or should I change anything?

Also, what compound/polish/wax would you recommend to start out with?

 

[Goonie75]

This is my first reply to a post so bear with me as well. There are lots of other posts that probably answer this question a lot better than myself but here goes:

1. It's subjective to some degree but find a product that works well for you and what you are trying to do. You can spend the rest of your time on the planet reading and analyzing and buying and trying things so find something and go with it for a few.
2. I find that 5" or 5.5" pads work better for me. A little more control. Again, try pads and find some you like. I've used Chemical Guys Hex Logic, Meguiars, and Lake Country, CCS and ThinPro. Lake Country seems to be my favorite so far.
3. 2 Buckets. Man, the 2 bucket system I wish I knew about when I was a teen. What work that would've saved me. So use to buckets and a grit guard.

Otherwise, sounds pretty good. Maybe some sort of APC or DG would help. Maybe a tire/wheel brush to go along with that.

Hope that helps and again, there's A LOT of smart folks here that know A LOT about this crazy world of auto detailing. Look around and read what some of them have to say.

 

[Ceerokz]

2 bucket wash,clay,wax, wheels and tires cleaned and dressed. Door jams(waxed as well),vacuume, and windows cleaned. Oh and the fuel tank compartment cleaned. You can order them as kits as well.
You gonna need a bunch of micro fiber towels.

include light polishing as a add on and when you are comfortable doing it.
Engine wash/dressing and headlight restoration would be a great add on as well.

 

[custmsprty]

ditch the pads, you need to go with 5" bp and 5.5" pads or yu'll bog down the pc

 

[Coopers ST]

If I was doing it I would get...a GG6. More powerful than the pc, and a lifetime warranty. Call Autogeek and see if they will set you up with 5" backing plate instead of the 6", and a bunch of 5.5" boss pads.

 

[Mike93]

This is my first reply to a post so bear with me as well. There are lots of other posts that probably answer this question a lot better than myself but here goes:

1. It's subjective to some degree but find a product that works well for you and what you are trying to do. You can spend the rest of your time on the planet reading and analyzing and buying and trying things so find something and go with it for a few.
2. I find that 5" or 5.5" pads work better for me. A little more control. Again, try pads and find some you like. I've used Chemical Guys Hex Logic, Meguiars, and Lake Country, CCS and ThinPro. Lake Country seems to be my favorite so far.
3. 2 Buckets. Man, the 2 bucket system I wish I knew about when I was a teen. What work that would've saved me. So use to buckets and a grit guard.

Otherwise, sounds pretty good. Maybe some sort of APC or DG would help. Maybe a tire/wheel brush to go along with that.

Hope that helps and again, there's A LOT of smart folks here that know A LOT about this crazy world of auto detailing. Look around and read what some of them have to say.

Thanks for the input, question though, would I need to change the counterweight on the PC to use the 5" bc and 5.5" pads? Because I'd prefer to use this setup, but I went with the 6" seeing as that's what it comes with already.


I've been seeing that 2 bucket wash being mentioned, I'll look into it, to me the way I was is pretty fast enough, rinse with a hose, soap entire vehicle and rinse off soap, doesn't really take me that much time.


I also have Degreaser on my list of stuff to buy locally. Question though, would it be safe or advisable to use the Degreaser to clean the interior? Maybe if I dilute it with water? This is at least until I can get some APC, wouldn't bother to buy any right now unless I need it.

 

[Mike93]

If I was doing it I would get...a GG6. More powerful than the pc, and a lifetime warranty. Call Autogeek and see if they will set you up with 5" backing plate instead of the 6", and a bunch of 5.5" boss pads.

Thanks, I was checking out the GG6 as well, and the only advantage seemed to be the power and I don't really like the design of it, so I decided to go with the PC mainly which I haven't really seen any bad reviews on

 

[Goonie75]

Thanks for the input, question though, would I need to change the counterweight on the PC to use the 5" bc and 5.5" pads? Because I'd prefer to use this setup, but I went with the 6" seeing as that's what it comes with already.


I've been seeing that 2 bucket wash being mentioned, I'll look into it, to me the way I was is pretty fast enough, rinse with a hose, soap entire vehicle and rinse off soap, doesn't really take me that much time.


I also have Degreaser on my list of stuff to buy locally. Question though, would it be safe or advisable to use the Degreaser to clean the interior? Maybe if I dilute it with water? This is at least until I can get some APC, wouldn't bother to buy any right now unless I need it.

No. No need to change weights. Just plate. Others may know more about this specific items. As for the 2 bucket method it's good for reducing scratches you may reintroduce by washing. Breaking car up into pieces can help with this too. I wouldn't use a dg for interior really. IMHO. I stick to apo diluted or interior specific product likes ones found here on AGO.

Again there are others that are very wise here and there are lots to read if you get the chance.

Peace

 

[Guyb]

How did you end up with a PC without a wrench? If they are new they come with the wrench.

 

[GSKR]

Good Afternoon,

First off forgive me if I posted to the wrong Forum as I'm new here. I'm looking for some advice with regard to purchasing equipment to start off auto detailing on the weekends as a sideline. I'm working with a limited budget, as I need to cater for shipping as well as import duties etc.... I'm looking at spending around $200 USD so I want to make sure I buy smart. Currently I'm just looking for the basics to get me started, and I can always purchase additional items as I go along. So far, I've got the following in my amazon cart:

1. Porter Cable 7424XP (Does not come with counterweight or wrench)
2. Chemical Guys 6.5in Buffing Pad Kit (7 Pads and a bottle of Pad Cleaner)
3. Astro 6 inch Backing Plate
4. Mother's Carpet and Upholstery Brush
5. Mother's Detail Brush Set (2 Pack)

These items come up to $205.

I've already got a wet/dry vac which I plan on upgrading at a later date, but that should work for now. I'll buy the Microfibre towels, Carwash soap, compound, polish and wax/sealant locally.


Anything I left out that would be necessary in the start up stages? Does the combination of stuff I'm buying from Amazon make sense? Or should I change anything?

Also, what compound/polish/wax would you recommend to start out with?

Chemical guys can accommodate your budget. As far as polishes stick with a all in one or d151 and fg 400.200 is really hard to put a plan together good luck on your new adventure.

 

[Mike93]

No. No need to change weights. Just plate. Others may know more about this specific items. As for the 2 bucket method it's good for reducing scratches you may reintroduce by washing. Breaking car up into pieces can help with this too. I wouldn't use a dg for interior really. IMHO. I stick to apo diluted or interior specific product likes ones found here on AGO.

Again there are others that are very wise here and there are lots to read if you get the chance.

Peace

Okay thanks, I'll go with the 5" bc then. I'll look into the 2 bucket method as well. I'll take your advise on the DG for interior cleaning as I was skeptical about it in the first place.What's APO diluted though?

How did you end up with a PC without a wrench? If they are new they come with the wrench.

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it's coming with the wrench. I"m ordering it from Amazon, and the description says "bare tool" under included components.

 

[Mike93]

Chemical guys can accommodate your budget. As far as polishes stick with a all in one or d151 and fg 400.200 is really hard to put a plan together good luck on your new adventure.

Hi, thanks for the input. The budget of $200 doesn't include polishes, cleaning supplies, microfibre cloths etc....... those stuff I'll just buy in small quantities locally until I can order in bulk. The Budget of $200 is mainly for the equipment I'll need to start out with. Which as far as I gather is the polisher, a set of pads, and some brushes for the interior.

The FG400 seems like a great product. What are your views on combining this with Chemical Guys Jet Seal as a 2 step polish and seal to start out with?

 

[GSKR]

I don't really care for the polishes from them.I stick with sonax ,the gg6 is a awesome machine for 149.00.Get some thin pro pads for that machine.

 

[Mike93]

Anyone has any reviews on the D151? What sort of results does it give? I'm checking it out, and it doesn't seem to be a bad product.

 

[Mike93]

I don't really care for the polishes from them.I stick with sonax ,the gg6 is a awesome machine for 149.00.Get some thin pro pads for that machine.

Polishes from who? Chemical Guys?

 

[Coopers ST]

Not sure where you are going to get microfiber locally, but part store and big box store mf's aren't good. Just order a few online.

 

[Mike93]

Not sure where you are going to get microfiber locally, but part store and big box store mf's aren't good. Just order a few online.

Okay thanks for the advice, was just gonna pick up a 24-pack that i usually use to wash down the cars. I'll check out a place locally that sells a lot of Chemical Guys products and see how reasonable they are, if not, I'll order them

 

[DScherer14]

Yeah steer clear of chem guys especially on a budget. Most pros use a couple of their products at max because they can see through marketing and cost efficiency.
Also I was under the impression the GG6 was stronger than the pc 7424 but 5" pads on both are best.
Warranty on the GG6 is fantastic.
The PC will come with a wrench. The bare tool means no pads.



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[Mike93]

Yeah steer clear of chem guys especially on a budget. Most pros use a couple of their products at max because they can see through marketing and cost efficiency.
Also I was under the impression the GG6 was stronger than the pc 7424 but 5" pads on both are best.
Warranty on the GG6 is fantastic.
The PC will come with a wrench. The bare tool means no pads.



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Thanks for the input. I ended up going with the pc 7424 with 5" pads from chemical guys. I see you noted to steer clear of chemical guys, I was actually thinking of starting off using their polishes. Any particular reason you said to steer clear of them? Or any other line of compounds, polishes and sealants you recommend that may be more cost effective, or work around the same for a similar cost?

 

[DScherer14]

Thanks for the input. I ended up going with the pc 7424 with 5" pads from chemical guys. I see you noted to steer clear of chemical guys, I was actually thinking of starting off using their polishes. Any particular reason you said to steer clear of them? Or any other line of compounds, polishes and sealants you recommend that may be more cost effective, or work around the same for a similar cost?

Their polishes are the biggest thing you need to steer clear of, just simple garbage. For a just beginner with no brand loyalty I would recommend getting HD cut, speed, polish, and poxy. That's your compound and polish line. Hd speed can do a fair bit of correcting on a microfiber cutting pad and finishes nice. It'll even remove decent swirls and finish nicely with a compound foam like orange or a medium compound/polish firmness pad. An alternative is M105 and M205 and paint correction cream and their reconditioning cream. Those are right in between the m105 and 205 on cut. It's m105, paint correction compound, m205, paint reconditioning cream or something. Might be getting those other 2 names mixed up, but you don't really need more than m105 and 205, if you wanted to be a little bit more deluxe beginner, I'd go with the 3dproducts I listed. HdSpeed namely. If you haven't already, watch this video from Mike on polishing. Fantastic video. Actually here's the whole playlist but the exterior video is what you'd watch first.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf9SO3pQlzJ-WLpwg7U4mUqaB4UuPQ91m