builthatch
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this time it happened without even google searching for a topic. i was on the forum and clicked on a thread i wanted to read. page two did this:
AG still setting off anti-virus alerts!
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Lowejackson
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Whenever I try to visit this site it is the evgeneevich element which seems to slow everything down. Whatever it is doing it makes navigation of AG too slow to use. It is as if evgeneevich is loading some huge file as the address is shown at the bottom of the page is visible during most of my time on here
builthatch
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yep. that is EXACTLY what happens with me if i have this site in the exclusion list for my av program, which is the only way i can view this site.
Ricorocks
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R U using 2016 version of Avast? If not see this:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=178580.0
then try without the exclusion
Good Luck
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=178580.0
then try without the exclusion
Good Luck
builthatch
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that is what i run. no change in behavior w/ or w/o exclusion. except with 2016, i've noticed it throws more pop up warnings whilst browsing on this site than before. with the exclusion listed, it will throw the warnings but not prevent connecting.
Are there additional things to do than simply uninstalling a program and going to another, especially if you change av's several times?
Ricorocks
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The correct way to change Av's is:
1. go to the web site & download the new AV
2. go to 'control panel' > 'programs & features' > highlight the old AV
Uninstall it.
3. The old AV may say, you need to reboot, to completely uninstall the
old AV. Do it!!!! If it does not prompt for reboot, proceed to next
step.
4. Install the new AV.
Doing it this way your protected by the old AV, when acquiring the new AV. Uninstalling the old, before installing the new, insures no conflicts, by two resident AV's.
Also if you try 360 Total, be sure to turn on the two AV engines (Avira & Bitdefender, also go to settings & choose protect browser
1. go to the web site & download the new AV
2. go to 'control panel' > 'programs & features' > highlight the old AV
Uninstall it.
3. The old AV may say, you need to reboot, to completely uninstall the
old AV. Do it!!!! If it does not prompt for reboot, proceed to next
step.
4. Install the new AV.
Doing it this way your protected by the old AV, when acquiring the new AV. Uninstalling the old, before installing the new, insures no conflicts, by two resident AV's.
Also if you try 360 Total, be sure to turn on the two AV engines (Avira & Bitdefender, also go to settings & choose protect browser
builthatch
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i appreciate you trying to help, but i would much rather AG figure out why evgeneevich is involved with this site than switch to another AV when mine has been flawless in performance for the who knows how many years i've run it aside from this lone issue with one site.
i can switch AVs, but the fact remains that avast! is a legitimate provider and has specifically cited to me, person to person, that evgeneevich is problematic.
a few URL scanners (ESET, Websense, Fortinet) are identifying the site in question in a similar fashion, though it's only a few out of many, many out there who aren't concerned about the site in question, just like other AVs.
if AG doesn't want to resolve this, fine.
Ricorocks
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Hi Builthatch,
No problem! AG will not solve the problem your experiencing, as the AV company chooses, what it deems 'malware', likewise the other AV's you've mentioned. They target 'evgeneevich' as potentially harmful, and warn the user. This is common in the industry. Example:
SuperAntiSpyware (very good product) targets items, that Malwarebytes chooses not to target. Often times (not always), targeting items that others choose to ignore, gives the user a false sense that the more aggressive is better.
That you've not had issues says more about your online behavior, than it does about your choice in AV's.
All AV's have the same problem NONE can be 100% effective. As malware, is on the internet, prior to the antidote for removal.
Malware hits the internet > Anti-Malware programs must find it > write the antidote > send it to the customers. Before protections is in place, for that specific bug.
Hence we have a time frame, where the bug is out there, & your not protected from it.
With that being said your surfing habits, if bad will challenge your AV (more often), is the malware recognized by your AV or not. If you practice safe hex, your AV is challenged less often, thus your years of being malware free.
Kaspersky - Address's the problem, with very frequent updates (your subscription) is updated hourly, when using there product.
What the graph in (post 76) shows, is the most recent vendors AV software's ability, both proactive & reactive, to keep you malware free. Avast is mediocre in test (from multiple testers), for quite some time (years), and that those higher on the graph, and further to the right (tan Avast), protect everything that Avast sees, and more.
All mentioned are legitimate providers! Non legitimate providers, are Malware! Again AVAST chooses to flag 'evgeneevich' as a problem or potential problem, thus warning the user. Where others, feel it does not warrant, warning the user.
The person to person contact, you had is not that impressive, as you would not have spoken to the people, who make the decision as to flag or not flag that file. In essence what they told you is what, you already knew Avast flags it & he she cannot, change the decision to flag or not flag.
R U aware of the big screw up Avast pulled? If not briefly
In the EULA you agreed to, they have a, by default on shopping adviser (spy's on you), they generate a list & sell your history, which results, in targeted adverts for you.
This quite the "big deal" in security forums, some loyalists were defending Avast, while others were shocked & dismayed by that kind of behavior. I found the paragraphs in the paid & free EULA's of AVAST & posted, that was confirmation, of the action.
It's not surprising they would do this, it's about generating profit for the company. What's shocking is they would betray, there users by spying & profiting off it.
With the outing (AVAST), I believe they kept the spying option, but by default it is OFF, so now the user can opt in, if he/she wishes to.
No problem! AG will not solve the problem your experiencing, as the AV company chooses, what it deems 'malware', likewise the other AV's you've mentioned. They target 'evgeneevich' as potentially harmful, and warn the user. This is common in the industry. Example:
SuperAntiSpyware (very good product) targets items, that Malwarebytes chooses not to target. Often times (not always), targeting items that others choose to ignore, gives the user a false sense that the more aggressive is better.
That you've not had issues says more about your online behavior, than it does about your choice in AV's.
All AV's have the same problem NONE can be 100% effective. As malware, is on the internet, prior to the antidote for removal.
Malware hits the internet > Anti-Malware programs must find it > write the antidote > send it to the customers. Before protections is in place, for that specific bug.
Hence we have a time frame, where the bug is out there, & your not protected from it.
With that being said your surfing habits, if bad will challenge your AV (more often), is the malware recognized by your AV or not. If you practice safe hex, your AV is challenged less often, thus your years of being malware free.
Kaspersky - Address's the problem, with very frequent updates (your subscription) is updated hourly, when using there product.
What the graph in (post 76) shows, is the most recent vendors AV software's ability, both proactive & reactive, to keep you malware free. Avast is mediocre in test (from multiple testers), for quite some time (years), and that those higher on the graph, and further to the right (tan Avast), protect everything that Avast sees, and more.
All mentioned are legitimate providers! Non legitimate providers, are Malware! Again AVAST chooses to flag 'evgeneevich' as a problem or potential problem, thus warning the user. Where others, feel it does not warrant, warning the user.
The person to person contact, you had is not that impressive, as you would not have spoken to the people, who make the decision as to flag or not flag that file. In essence what they told you is what, you already knew Avast flags it & he she cannot, change the decision to flag or not flag.
R U aware of the big screw up Avast pulled? If not briefly
In the EULA you agreed to, they have a, by default on shopping adviser (spy's on you), they generate a list & sell your history, which results, in targeted adverts for you.
This quite the "big deal" in security forums, some loyalists were defending Avast, while others were shocked & dismayed by that kind of behavior. I found the paragraphs in the paid & free EULA's of AVAST & posted, that was confirmation, of the action.
It's not surprising they would do this, it's about generating profit for the company. What's shocking is they would betray, there users by spying & profiting off it.
With the outing (AVAST), I believe they kept the spying option, but by default it is OFF, so now the user can opt in, if he/she wishes to.
Rico,
In the graph you provided Avira Free and AVG "appear" to be "better" than Kaspersky given that they're "higher and to the right" on the graph. So, I'm really surprised you mentioned Kaspersky again.
I used to run Kaspersky and AVG Free on an old 1gig ram system and the constant updating of both seemed to lock that old computer until the updates were finished...and with that old computer if I turn it on now those updates take nearly 75 minutes. Perhaps there's other problems with the computer or merely age.
On this new laptop McAfee ran out for approximately 30 days before I put AVG free on my system. Not an ideal time lapse I'm sure. Hopefully there won't be issues.
I did get one warning last night from AVG when searching for Tanner's Preserve Leather Cleaner and Conditioner. I clicked for AVG to take care of it and hopefully it did.
Honestly, I'm as uneasy about using free anti-virus programs as I am paying for something like Kaspersky, Webroot, or Trend Micro again. I kept switching because I'm not a computer guru and let different people talk me into different things. That said AVG Free did seem to serve me well some time ago before I installed the Kaspersky which seemed to be the biggest system hog for that old computer...probably not the programs fault...that computer was about 5 years old when I installed it.
In the graph you provided Avira Free and AVG "appear" to be "better" than Kaspersky given that they're "higher and to the right" on the graph. So, I'm really surprised you mentioned Kaspersky again.
I used to run Kaspersky and AVG Free on an old 1gig ram system and the constant updating of both seemed to lock that old computer until the updates were finished...and with that old computer if I turn it on now those updates take nearly 75 minutes. Perhaps there's other problems with the computer or merely age.
On this new laptop McAfee ran out for approximately 30 days before I put AVG free on my system. Not an ideal time lapse I'm sure. Hopefully there won't be issues.
I did get one warning last night from AVG when searching for Tanner's Preserve Leather Cleaner and Conditioner. I clicked for AVG to take care of it and hopefully it did.
Honestly, I'm as uneasy about using free anti-virus programs as I am paying for something like Kaspersky, Webroot, or Trend Micro again. I kept switching because I'm not a computer guru and let different people talk me into different things. That said AVG Free did seem to serve me well some time ago before I installed the Kaspersky which seemed to be the biggest system hog for that old computer...probably not the programs fault...that computer was about 5 years old when I installed it.
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With all the info available i still don't understand why people would use free AV. Kasperksy is widely regarded as the best...for a reason! Use that with Malwarebytes Antimalware and you have the protection you need. Btw, you can usually get Kaspersky free on newegg on black Friday after a $50 rebate.
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Hi Bill,
Vendors routinely submit to testing orgs. for eval. Most including this testing org. run every 3 months, it's not unusual to see some slipage or improvement over time.
Also I mentioned KAV, in regards to how they solve the problem, of the bug is on the internet, till your protected via update. KAV updates hourly & at times more often.
KAV or KIS at one time had a reputation of being resource hog, Norton shared this as well. My wife uses KIS, on her 8GB mem. laptop & I don't notice a performance hit from KIS.
You can only run one AV at a time! That is one small AV icon, near the clock. This area is called the 'notification area' & only one AV should be present.
Did AVG put a little green & red icons on your search results, to tell which sites are safe to visit? If not install WOT (web of trust), doina a search with WOT will give you a heads up as to safe & unsafe sites. AVG bought a company similar to WOT, called link scanner, I'm surprised your searches don't have green icons for safe etc.
Indeed if you have a paid AV, get the miles out of it, before replacing. Many paid now, are automatically renewed & billed (KAV, etc).
Most folks figure I use this or that AV & have not been infected, so they recommend it. Does not work like that, you can use (post 76) highest & furthest to the right, & still become infected. So an AV is but one player on your defensive team.
Make informed decisions & trial (all offer 30 day trial periods), use Consumers Reports I believe each June edition, rates free & paid AV's, look at AV Comparatives, & Virus Bulletin, then make a list of your fav's & trial.
The formula for going on the net is:
AV + AS + FW + BU (anti virus, anti spyware, fire wall, & full backup), miss any one of these & you increase your vulnerability.
Anti Malware companies do not share, what bugs they find with other vendors, 100,000+ NEW bugs hit the net daily. It's good practice, to have an "on demand" scanner to 2nd, the notion from the AV, that the system is clean. Secondary scanners like Malwarebytes or SuperAntiSpyware would be very good, as secondary scanner, normally there icon(s) would not be found near the clock. You would dbl click, update & scan for 2nd opinion.
Vendors routinely submit to testing orgs. for eval. Most including this testing org. run every 3 months, it's not unusual to see some slipage or improvement over time.
Also I mentioned KAV, in regards to how they solve the problem, of the bug is on the internet, till your protected via update. KAV updates hourly & at times more often.
KAV or KIS at one time had a reputation of being resource hog, Norton shared this as well. My wife uses KIS, on her 8GB mem. laptop & I don't notice a performance hit from KIS.
You can only run one AV at a time! That is one small AV icon, near the clock. This area is called the 'notification area' & only one AV should be present.
Did AVG put a little green & red icons on your search results, to tell which sites are safe to visit? If not install WOT (web of trust), doina a search with WOT will give you a heads up as to safe & unsafe sites. AVG bought a company similar to WOT, called link scanner, I'm surprised your searches don't have green icons for safe etc.
Indeed if you have a paid AV, get the miles out of it, before replacing. Many paid now, are automatically renewed & billed (KAV, etc).
Most folks figure I use this or that AV & have not been infected, so they recommend it. Does not work like that, you can use (post 76) highest & furthest to the right, & still become infected. So an AV is but one player on your defensive team.
Make informed decisions & trial (all offer 30 day trial periods), use Consumers Reports I believe each June edition, rates free & paid AV's, look at AV Comparatives, & Virus Bulletin, then make a list of your fav's & trial.
The formula for going on the net is:
AV + AS + FW + BU (anti virus, anti spyware, fire wall, & full backup), miss any one of these & you increase your vulnerability.
Anti Malware companies do not share, what bugs they find with other vendors, 100,000+ NEW bugs hit the net daily. It's good practice, to have an "on demand" scanner to 2nd, the notion from the AV, that the system is clean. Secondary scanners like Malwarebytes or SuperAntiSpyware would be very good, as secondary scanner, normally there icon(s) would not be found near the clock. You would dbl click, update & scan for 2nd opinion.
Ricorocks
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Free AV's are normally excellent! Example AVG and others use FREE program as an advert to it's paid product. Normally the paid has a few more bells & whistles than the free. So you use the free & like it, if only it could do this, surprise pony up to the paid & you get it. Avira AVG etc have nag screens trying to get you to buy.
I like 360 Total as it does not nag "FREE" to user, user goes to work says how great 360 Total is, then they sell to business. Plus it always scores well, in testing. It uses Avira & Bitdefender engines + cloud & proprietary engines. Plus does allot more!
I like 360 Total as it does not nag "FREE" to user, user goes to work says how great 360 Total is, then they sell to business. Plus it always scores well, in testing. It uses Avira & Bitdefender engines + cloud & proprietary engines. Plus does allot more!
musclecar22
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Sorry for the late response. I tried each way and the evgeneevich site tries to load from a Google link every time. Also tried a friends tablet in another state while visiting, same event. I was not logged in at the time.
Like others, the link will not load and in the lower left it displays "transferring from www.evgeneevich.com. AVG will not allow load as site is labeled malicious.