All-surface sealants?

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I am new to this forum.

Was looking for recommendations of sealants that can be applied to paint, exterior plastic trim, and metal wheels. Bonus if also can be used on the glass.

Primary purpose is long-lasting UV protections as I live in Phoenix.

I know CG Jetseal and m-seal will do this, but I'm just not a fan of there overblown marketing.

Any other recommendations for this type of product?

Thanks!
 
Opti-Seal is about as easy at it gets. it's almost hard to believe that it is that easy.

though...Opti-Coat is so simple at this point that it's hard to recommend anything but that for those who are into correction and subsequent protection.
 
HydrO2 by CarPro easiest thing in the world to apply as well.
 
Pinnacle Black Label Coating Booster.
 
builthatch said:
Opti-Seal is about as easy at it gets. it's almost hard to believe that it is that easy.

though...Opti-Coat is so simple at this point that it's hard to recommend anything but that for those who are into correction and subsequent protection.
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Does opti-seal protect as well as opti-coat? How long does OS last?

I am considering opti-coat, but just wish they made some kind of wax to use on top as I do like doing maintenance every 3-6 months or so.
 
Jason85255 said:
Does opti-seal protect as well as opti-coat? How long does OS last?

I am considering opti-coat, but just wish they made some kind of wax to use on top as I do like doing maintenance every 3-6 months or so.
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Opti-Coat leaves a WAY thicker coat and it is considered permanent, so it's much more protective than Opti-Seal. and while it is easy to apply, there is a lot of preparation and care needed because of those features.

Opti-Seal is even easier and almost brainless to apply. Optimum settled on a six month average for Opti-Seal's protection claim. it's hard to say for sure because some cars are garaged, some see a lot of sun, or road chemicals, etc.

as far as something to use on top of Opti-Coat...it's hard because the coating's purpose is to not let stuff stick very well to it. so, putting wax on it is nothing but a feel good thing because it won't last. but, people have used CarPro Reload and things like that. seems like a waste of money to me though!

On a coated car that doesn't need correction, after a year or so i like to go over it with a DA and Poli-Seal. that takes minimal time and cleans the coating up wonderfully. if there are any scratches or something that are beyond the scope of Poli-Seal, i'll correct the area and re-coat.
 
builthatch said:
On a coated car that doesn't need correction, after a year or so i like to go over it with a DA and Poli-Seal. that takes minimal time and cleans the coating up wonderfully. if there are any scratches or something that are beyond the scope of Poli-Seal, i'll correct the area and re-coat.
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What is DA?

I'm new to detailing, but it seems like if you have to polish the paint every year when using opti-coat, you may actually remove more of the car's clear coat then you would if you were using traditional waxes/sealants?
 
EVOlved said:
HydrO2 by CarPro easiest thing in the world to apply as well.
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^ beat me to it...

HydrO2 is just awesome. Can be used on paint, trim, glass, metal, wheels... whatever. Simply mist some onto a wet panel, then immediately rinse away and that area is protected. It is incredibly slick and glossy... I love this stuff.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
^ beat me to it...

HydrO2 is just awesome. Can be used on paint, trim, glass, metal, wheels... whatever. Simply mist some onto a wet panel, then immediately rinse away and that area is protected. It is incredibly slick and glossy... I love this stuff.
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Is HydrO2 similar to Permanon? How long does it last compared to traditional sealants as BobbyG mentioned?
 
Jason85255 said:
What is DA?

I'm new to detailing, but it seems like if you have to polish the paint every year when using opti-coat, you may actually remove more of the car's clear coat then you would if you were using traditional waxes/sealants?
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DA = dual action polisher...Porter-Cable, Griot's, etc.

it's the Honda Civic or VW Beetle of polishers, the polisher for the people. simple, effective, safe.

when you coat your car in Opti-Coat, if you do it right, and don't abuse the finish with automatic car washes, poor wash techniques, branches, road wash, etc...then ideally you won't ever have to polish the car again. it's a permanent coating.

you said you want to add wax every few months. there is no reason for that with a permanent coating. however, Opti-Coat (and other coating) users have found that a very light polish job after some time has passed can freshen up the coating surface.

the point of a coating is to provide a protective, appreciative sacrificial barrier. it adds a layer of "coat" to your clear coat so you don't damage your original clear coat.

however...since you are so new, i'd stick with the less permanent coatings like others are discussing.
 
Hoytman said:
Is HydrO2 similar to Permanon? How long does it last compared to traditional sealants as BobbyG mentioned?
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Similar, yes. Not the same though.

HydrO2 is a silica based spray on, rinse off sealant. It typically lasts 2-3 months, but I have seen several accounts of higher durability. Very little product is needed to cover an entire car (paint, glass, trim), and it takes no more than 10 minutes to apply it... simply can't beat it from an ease of use point of view.

Another product that I really like is CarPro Reload. It is also a silica based spray sealant, but this one is applied to a dry surface (although can be applied to wet surface as a drying aid) and then immediately wiped away with a microfiber towel. This product provides approximately 4 months of protection and is again incredibly quick and easy in that you can cover your entire vehicle in 10-15 minutes. Reload can be used on Paint, Rubber, Plastic, Metal and Glass as far as I know.

Both products leave an incredibly slick and glossy finish, and the beading and sheeting is incredible.

I have sold/gotten rid of all of my other sealants after using these 2 products. No need to waste time applying other products when these two provide amazing results in much less time.

(I sound like a salesman :) ... but I really do love these products. They're game changers IMO)
 
How can ANYTHING be easier than something that doesn't even require you to touch the paint...Hydro2 hands down...lights out, looks great, and can be applied ANYWHERE on the car that your hand can't even try to get into .
 
The OP specifically mentioned UV protection but there has been little to no discussion of this. Sealants will not tend to natively offer this and it is actually common for many sealants to talk about UV performance but actually mean that they are UV stable (i.e. the UV does not destroy the sealant), not that they absorb/reflect/otherwise protect the surface from UV. This latter point is something that several brand leaders have failed to understand when I discussed it so I am disinclined to believe any such claims, without some evidence. From that point of view, I would tend to favour any optimum products when it would come to accuracy of claims in this area. They have a record of knowing what they are selling rather than telling the market simply what it wants to hear.
 
PiPUK said:
The OP specifically mentioned UV protection but there has been little to no discussion of this. Sealants will not tend to natively offer this and it is actually common for many sealants to talk about UV performance but actually mean that they are UV stable (i.e. the UV does not destroy the sealant), not that they absorb/reflect/otherwise protect the surface from UV. This latter point is something that several brand leaders have failed to understand when I discussed it so I am disinclined to believe any such claims, without some evidence. From that point of view, I would tend to favour any optimum products when it would come to accuracy of claims in this area. They have a record of knowing what they are selling rather than telling the market simply what it wants to hear.
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Yes, I'm not sure how something only microns thick and perfectly see thru when applied to glass can prevent UV from penetrating in to the surface below. If there is a coating/sealant that does this....
 
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