Alternatives for D114?

osiapstndp said:
Nick, pretty, pretty please make
this new product have a minimum
of a 1:32 dilution ratio.

D114, to me, was so great because
I used it at 1:128 and it performed
marvelously for so many applications.

I know PBMG doesn't make a lot of
"concentrates" available to consumers,
but when one is detailing for money
it's extremely important to use products
that aid in making a profit.

I use a lot of the Meguiar's professional line
because almost everything is a concentrate
and dilutes very well.
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Conversely...
Perhaps there is a "profit problem" for car-
care products manufacturers/re-sellers/etc.
that arises because, often, there is such a
long interval between purchases of their gallon
jugs of product concentrates (such as D114)...?



Bob
 
hdez said:
I'm looking for a spray detail that doesn't leave anything behind. Would be nice if it comes on concentrated formula.

3D has one called "Spray Detailer" but it is not sold on AG and it is not concentrated.
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I am a fan of D114.
I use it professionally and personally.
However, I don't find the product to be special.
I also find that more product is necessary for dilution ratios, not less, for product performance.

In other words, there are plenty of other products out there that are as good, and better, than D114.
Check out products from Duragloss and Griots Garage.
I think you will be very happy.
 
vanev said:
I am a fan of D114.
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Are you sure?!?!

IMO:
The rest of your posting (listed below)
doesn't meet the OED's definition of
being a "fan"...a person that you've
alleged being, when it comes to D114.

TO WIT:

Fanatic:
A person filled with excessive and
single-minded zeal; a zealot...

vanev said:
I use it professionally and personally.

However, I don't find the product
to be special. I also find that more
product is necessary for dilution ratios,
not less, for product performance.

In other words, there are plenty of
other products out there that are as
good, and better, than D114.

Check out products from Duragloss
and Griots Garage.
I think you will be very happy.
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:nomore:


Bob
 
vanev said:
I am a fan of D114.
I use it professionally and personally.
However, I don't find the product to be special.
I also find that more product is necessary for dilution ratios, not less, for product performance.

In other words, there are plenty of other products out there that are as good, and better, than D114.
Check out products from Duragloss and Griots Garage.
I think you will be very happy.
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I think those you mentioned leave some polymers behind. I want something that is referred as "body shop safe".
 
FUNX650 said:
Are you sure?!?!

IMO:
The rest of your posting (listed below)
doesn't meet the OED's definition of
being a "fan"...a person that you've
alleged being, when it comes to D114.

TO WIT:

Fanatic:
A person filled with excessive and
single-minded zeal; a zealot...



:nomore:


Bob
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Yes, I am a fan of D114, lol.
While D114 is not special in the polymer based product it is intended to be, it is a typical Meguiars quality product that brings that special and original Meguiars shine.
It also comes in gallon size and can be diluted down for cost effectiveness.
It is excellent on wheels as an LSP.
It is excellent on interior plastics and vinyl.
Etc.....

hdez said:
I think those you mentioned leave some polymers behind. I want something that is referred as "body shop safe".
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Body shop safe refers to silicone's and solvents more than anything else.
I don't think it has much to do with anything related to polymers.
That, of course, depends on the polymer type and chain configuration.

The entire purpose of polymer based products is to in fact leave polymers behind.
Polymers are the protection as they link together as well as bond to the surface.
There are countless polymer configurations, some stronger than others.
The polymer chains in the typical detail spray, spray wax, and rinseless washes are weak by comparison to polymer chains is coatings, for example.
 
vanev said:
While D114 is not special
in the polymer based product
it is intended to be
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^^^ What in the name of sense
are you talking about?

vanev said:
Body shop safe refers to silicone's and
solvents more than anything else.

I don't think it has much to do with
anything related to polymers.
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•News flash:
I. Silicones are polymers.

II.
a.) Solvents' basic concept is:
likes dissolve likes.

b.) "Polymer Solvents" basic concept is:
like-vectors dissolve like-vectors.

vanev said:
The entire purpose of polymer based
products is to in fact leave polymers behind.

Polymers are the protection as they link
together as well as bond to the surface.
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^^^ No...Not really! ^^^

:smhiud:


Bob
 
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