Am I using my PC correctly (vid) 56k ouch!

I'm also new at the PC thing. However, I feel I've done my homework thoroughly on the subject before I decided to buy one. I've practiced with it since yesterday using all the tecniques/tips and instructional videos I've gotten with excellent results so far.
With that said, it looks like you're going a little bit too fast, and too large of an area to work with. I guess this is only irrelevant if you're just applying wax as opposed to doing paint correction.
When you are ready to lay down your first applicaton you put like a dime size of your product on the pad at 12-3-6-9 o'clock position, spread it on the surface, and cover the area at 3k opm which for what I looked in the video, you still had too much of product still on the paint, or it looks like you may have applied too much QD, or water on the pads. Then you can work the polish in at 5.5-6k opm.
Like I said, I'm not an expert at this yet, but following what I've read and learned to the letter has brought me good results, and made using the PC an enjoyable experience! :cheers:
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06GT said:
This is a video I took of me practicing with my new PC(on my winter car). The quality of vid is poor, sorry.
Am I polishing too quickly? Does it look like I've broken down the polish enough? It was 42 degrees outside.


http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/nathansdad04/?action=view&current=MVI_0096.flv
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I do not know too much, but it seems like you went over it fairly fast, and I am not sure at allif it is broken down. Better to spend too lon on it than not enough, as it becomes wasted time. I agree the area seems to large. But lol, what do i know? i can remove van swirls fine, but not on my own vette.
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Dont take anything I say to the bank as Im still learning. Like killer says...treat her like a lady....slow and steady. WAY to fast. do a 18x18 section, work the polish untill it brakes down, appx 5-7 min.
On a foot note I like the idea of showing your Vid. Wouldnt it be great to see a senior member like justin, and others post a vid to show there tricks.Figuring the correct speed comes with practice and the product. Just keep asking questions , Guys and gals here are fantastic. No such thing as a stupid question........hang in there
 
It seems a little cold for polishing, and based upon the area you polished you were done to fast. 5 minutes per panel .... slow and steady. Speed on high, it didnt sound like you were above 5 1/2 on the dial. If you polish is drying to fast consider spritzing or priming the pad with water or pad conditioner. Also use a little pressure. Good start ...
 
I agree with others. You are doing it way too fast. Also, so smaller sections at a time form better results.
 
The others have given some direction in refference to the PC..I just wanted to say that you should have a few damp towels over the vents to keep polish/dust from building up in the vents..Good Luck and have fun ..
 
I started on my black Mustang today. I'm getting a bit frustrated. I've got a lot of light hazing now.
I started with SSR2 and orange pad(2 passes). It got out the noticeable scratches. Then I used SSR1 with white pad(2 passes) then gray pad and SSR1(1 pass).
When I look at the paint(from 12" away) i can see light hazing. What am I doing to cause this?
 
06GT said:
I started on my black Mustang today. I'm getting a bit frustrated. I've got a lot of light hazing now.
I started with SSR2 and orange pad(2 passes). It got out the noticeable scratches. Then I used SSR1 with white pad(2 passes) then gray pad and SSR1(1 pass).
When I look at the paint(from 12" away) i can see light hazing. What am I doing to cause this?
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Probably still moving too quickly and 2 passes isn't enough. You need to overlap multiple passes with the PC as it doesn't have the power to break down polishes/compounds as quick/good as a rotary, when the abrassives aren't broken down properly they can cause marring/hazzing which your pry seeing. I work a panel for a minimum of 5 minutes. Move the PC about a half-inch or so per second, especially on black.
 
Well...I'm at my wits end now. I got the swirls out(95% of them), but each 1' x 1" panel I did has a lot of hazing that I quite noticeable.
I have no idea what to do now. I worked 1 panel for like 8 minutes and went what I thought was slow enough. An it still shows quite a bit of hazing. I've spent 2 hours and still haven't finished even half of the door.

Here's a look at today's technique. I(56k- stay away!)

http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/nathansdad04/?action=view&current=MVI_0101.flv

http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/nathansdad04/?action=view&current=MVI_0100.flv


From this pic...you would think the finish is pretty darn good, but it isn't at all.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/nathansdad04/IMG_0099.jpg
 
Anyone have any thoughts on what I should try next? I've read the micromarring can be caused by not breaking down the polish or breaking it down too much....how do I know which is causing the marring?
Should I be putting more pressure on the pad maybe? How many times can I go over the same area(trying to remove my mistakes) without worrying about damaging the paint?
 
Did you prep the paint first? (especially on black), Use a clay bar? , finish still looks dirty
 
Paint was clean. What you saw was polish that had splattered outside of the panel I was working on. Plus there was some SSR dust that was clinging to some of the paint.
 
Out of curiosity...how would using a SLOWER speed (like 4) affect my results? I'm going to try to get all of the polishing done on Mon and Tues, so I need to have all the info I can get so I don't end up spending 8 hours polishing only to end up with no results.
 
Have you watched teh autogeek videos on using the pc? If not, I'd recommend taking a look at them. The only problem I had was not using the XMT line and using other products. Big difference after using the XMT products.
 
It's a little late for me to try XMT since I have all PB polishes right now...and I've got 4 days til cold weather hits NY. I've got Mon and Tues to get this done(will be 55+ degrees and partly sunny).
 
the biggest flaw i see is that to me your not holding the pc properly. Put your hand down on the head and push directly down on the head and guide it by holding the body with your other hand. This provides even contact, more control, and minimizes hop. Also it could be the reason the polishes are hazing on your car.

Also did you clay it first ?

-Ryan
 
I tried a little more polishing today. It was still a disappointment. though. I've still got micromarring occurring.
I tried SSR2 w/ orange pad(2 passes), then SSr2 with gray pad(twice)= micromarring
SSr2 with orange (2 passes) then SSR2 with white pad (twice) = micromarring
SSR2 on white pad then gray pad=micromarring
Then tried a fresh panel:
SSr2 with white pad= swirls not touched much

SSr2 with orange(twice), SSr1 with orange(twice), SSr1 with gray pad=micromarring

I'm definitely noticing now that my car has more swirls than I had thought. They are light, but there are plenty of them. The polishing IS definitely removing them, but the micromarring makes the paint 'sparkle' in bright sunlight.


I tried light pressure, heavier pressure, and speed 6....I still can't figure this darn PC out! It seems like every combo I try causes the micromarring. I'm more worried now that I'll end up running out of polish at this rate....and I've got to get this done by Tues.

Right now, I've decided to try and polish out the swirls on the entire car THEN go back and take a stab at the micromarring.
Assuming I can't get the micromarring out......will Duragloss polish and AW hide the micromarring on black paint?
 
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