Any decent ceramic/graphene AIO?

If you are going to use a topper anyway, I'd recommend something a little different: use a mild polish and then just apply a highly durable spray sealant after polishing. It's the same number of steps, you'll have a greater number of products to choose from, and a better chance of getting a product that will give better results in both the protection and adding gloss.

One thing that frustrated me about AIO's was there weren't terribly good at anything.
 
Desertnate said:
If you are going to use a topper anyway, I'd recommend something a little different: use a mild polish and then just apply a highly durable spray sealant after polishing. It's the same number of steps, you'll have a greater number of products to choose from, and a better chance of getting a product that will give better results in both the protection and adding gloss.

One thing that frustrated me about AIO's was there weren't terribly good at anything.
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Interesting take. In a good way! Any sprays you like more than others? I have a ton, some great ones. Just curious
 
BTLew81 said:
Interesting take. In a good way! Any sprays you like more than others? I have a ton, some great ones. Just curious
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Personally I have good success with Jescars spray ceramic, but like most stuff I use it's getting long in the tooth lol. The Jescar Ultralock plus is easy to use between application and removal maybe a half hour or so for an average size care. By the time you are done applying where you started is ready to buff off. And boy does it buff easy. Joy to use. If you don't mind a more traditional cream product.

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Seems to me that for the most part the liquid sealers are more durable than the spray sealants.
Same seems to go for the waxes.
 
One of the best spray sealants still on the market is Sonax PNS frankly. It's getting hard to get however.

I plan of finally buying Fusso coat this year - a wax/paste sealant that lasts around 9mths in some conditions.

Its one of the longest lasting products on the market outside of coatings.
 
Hobbit said:
One of the best spray sealants still on the market is Sonax PNS frankly. It's getting hard to get however.

I plan of finally buying Fusso coat this year - a wax/paste sealant that lasts around 9mths in some conditions.

Its one of the longest lasting products on the market outside of coatings.
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Fuso is legendary. Never used it before but Forensic Detaling has sold me on it multiple times.

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BLM said:
Seems to me that for the most part the liquid sealers are more durable than the spray sealants.
Same seems to go for the waxes.
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I agree, but the OP mentioned using a topper every couple of washes which makes me think he could give up a little in durability for ease of use. Just use a spray sealant and continually freshen the LSP.
 
Desertnate said:
One thing that frustrated me about AIO's was there weren't terribly good at anything.
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I kinda agree. They are good for what they have long been used for. Its great to have on the shelf. Think 3d 505(speed). I have in the past heard some say that they can cut as good as a polish, but i personally have yet to achieve that same level of correction as a polish.

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PouncingPanzer said:
Fuso is legendary. Never used it before but Forensic Detaling has sold me on it multiple times.

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Check out the relatively recent (2022) Forensic Detailing video where Jon puts Fusso against Jescar Ultralock, CanCoat and SealnShine. You know the whole durability test thing. Of the four Fusso gave up first. You'll think I'm telling a lie but SealnShine won that contest.
I think SealnShine is still a good product. A spray on sealant that is very inexpensive and performs well.
In the video and before the test started Jon predicted Fusso would come out on top. I'm sure he was surprised as well.
 
I have the original Fusso coat sent right from Japan......not that impressed.
It gasses really bad, had to go over the whole truck again with a detailer.
Longevity was 6 weeks

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BLM said:
Check out the relatively recent (2022) Forensic Detailing video where Jon puts Fusso against Jescar Ultralock, CanCoat and SealnShine. You know the whole durability test thing. Of the four Fusso gave up first. You'll think I'm telling a lie but SealnShine won that contest.
I think SealnShine is still a good product. A spray on sealant that is very inexpensive and performs well.
In the video and before the test started Jon predicted Fusso would come out on top. I'm sure he was surprised as well.
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I know Ultralock won in one of his big comparisons. Like 10-12 products. That was shortly after Ultralock Plus came out so maybe 5 years ago now? Love his durability tests. He's my favorite.

Forgive me but I've never even heard of SealnShine. I'll look it up though.

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Bosko said:
I have the original Fusso coat sent right from Japan......not that impressed.
It gasses really bad, had to go over the whole truck again with a detailer.
Longevity was 6 weeks

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Sounds like my experience with Collinite 915. The next day it looked like I didn't even buff it off. Just chalked it up to using too much. First time using 915 and first time using a machine to apply a wax. Two firsts didn't make a right hahaha.

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Collinite 845 did it to me as well, but it didn't happen until the car sat out in blazing sun on a hot day. I had hazy patches all over the car where I'd applied it a bit too thick. Fortunately a quick wash or a little QD and a MF towel fixed things.
 
I personally enjoy the time detailing my vehicles, it's therapy for life, lol.
I grabbed Megs M27 and really like it. The smell alone just makes me smile. Part of the overall experience are the little bullet points for me, smell one of them. Just a product that I enjoy. I have Megs HPC on another, it was a product that flew under the radar. I wash with both Megs Hyper Wash or Ceramic soap, maintain with combo of Megs ceramic line, spray wax, M799 and Detailer.
 
Bosko said:
I have the original Fusso coat sent right from Japan......not that impressed.
It gasses really bad, had to go over the whole truck again with a detailer.
Longevity was 6 weeks

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Thanks for the warning, I looked at it once on Amazon, now I get multiple emails a week saying here's something you might like, and it's been really tempting. Not that I needed it or anything.
 
Silly Rabbit said:
I personally enjoy the time detailing my vehicles, it's therapy for life, lol.
I grabbed Megs M27 and really like it. The smell alone just makes me smile. Part of the overall experience are the little bullet points for me, smell one of them. Just a product that I enjoy. I have Megs HPC on another, it was a product that flew under the radar. I wash with both Megs Hyper Wash or Ceramic soap, maintain with combo of Megs ceramic line, spray wax, M799 and Detailer.
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I have the hybrid ceramic coating or what ever they call it on my car. I like it. I’ve put m27 on top. Last year. It did amp up the gloss. The 799 is good too. Hybrid detailer is nice also. All underrated products
 
Does anyone know if Sonax's Ceramic Polish AIO is the same thing as the Proline Glaze OS 02-06?

I'm already going to be using their ceramic spray coating and detailer as my LSP and topper this year, so should I find the time to give my car a polish it could be interesting to also use their ceramic infused polish to remove the minor swirls from the past couple of years.
 
Gridlink said:
Does anyone know if Sonax's Ceramic Polish AIO is the same thing as the Proline Glaze OS 02-06?

I'm already going to be using their ceramic spray coating and detailer as my LSP and topper this year, so should I find the time to give my car a polish it could be interesting to also use their ceramic infused polish to remove the minor swirls from the past couple of years.
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I don't think its the same. 02-06 as a wax or something, looking over the sonax site and sonax canada.. I would use the Ceramic Polish.

Sonax USA states its a ceramic AIO however but the guy from Detailing School ENGLISH claims he got information straight from sonax in Germany - he's a master detailer for Sonax in Europe. He adamantly commented on Apex Detailing channel's review of 02-06 that its wasn't any "ceramic" in the polish. I think Brian even said you could use it as a primer polish, i would of to re-watch that video because that would be false information too. Brian as put out more than one suspect video.

Just goes to show how you can be easily mislead in this industry. But hey when they tell you LSP's protect from UV rays it must be the case, right? haha
 
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I don't think its the same. 02-06 as a wax or something, looking over the sonax site and sonax canada.. I would use the Ceramic Polish.

Sonax USA states its a ceramic AIO however but the guy from Detailing School ENGLISH claims he got information straight from sonax in Germany - he's a master detailer for Sonax in Europe. He adamantly commented on Apex Detailing channel's review of 02-06 that its wasn't any "ceramic" in the polish. I think Brian even said you could use it as a primer polish, i would of to re-watch that video because that would be false information too. Brian as put out more than one suspect video.

Just goes to show how you can be easily mislead in this industry. But hey when they tell you LSP's protect from UV rays it must be the case, right? haha
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Going by the SDS and ingredient sheets both products are identical. I'm going to email Sonax and ask them to find out for sure. If they are in fact the same the 500ml of Ceramic Polish for $1 more than 250ml of 02-06 is a bargain.

I'd also like to ask them about cure time and how soon I can top their ceramic spray coating with ultra slick detailer since it isn't specific on either bottle.
 
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Big Dave said:
Thanks for the warning, I looked at it once on Amazon, now I get multiple emails a week saying here's something you might like, and it's been really tempting. Not that I needed it or anything.
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The trick is to lay it on very thin, or you can dislocate your elbow trying to buff off. I have a can if you want to try it out.
 
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