Anyone on the fence? Go Griots

DARK HORSE said:
If your not getting correction with a PCxp and 105, (not meaning to offend you), but you may want to evaluate your technique, or swicth to a rotorary, because the correction is beyond the ability of a DA. My 2009 Mustang GT has extremely hard clear and I can correct it very quickly with 105 and no more than a orange CCS or cyan hydrotech. What kind of paint are you working on, and in what shape. If you are using a yellow pad and 105, and descent technique you are removing swirls and scratches, but installing new ones from such an aggressive combo. (You will need to step down to a finer polish/pad combo after compounding). I would stay away from using yellow pads (IHMO it's like polishing with a brick).
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None taken, i've been around forums for quite a few years, so i'm kinda used to how people engage in threads. anyhow, yes i actually got a Makita, i'm just waiting for the 3m wool pads and adaptor i ordered.

Okay,may be i wasn't exactly clear on my previous post..i've tried it on other cars, and it works well in correction which takes just about 2-3 section passes. But when i used it on my car, it wasn't doing anything. This is not the first time i have worked with paints, so i know when a new scratch, is a new scratch..lol. My car's paint is a 4-month-old paint job, 28 coats in total. 10 coats of orange base, 9 coats of gold & green pearl, and another 9 coats of clear. This has been wetsanded to remove orange peel and some pinholes. There are scratches left by the wool on a Makita, so i was aiming to get those out using the XP. Well, to cut the story short, it didn't. My cc is Aikka's hardest and glossiest clear diluted with their extra slow drying thinner.

Actually, you're right, i didn't like how the yellow pad performed. But i tried the orange with 105 prior to moving up to the yellow.
 
O.C.Detailing said:
The Griot's does, in fact, correct better and faster than the Flex. Hands down, no question. Not saying the Flex is a bad machine, but it's not as capable as the Griot's of removing defects unless it's on angled panels. Other than that, the Griot's spins faster and oscillates quicker and also has more power.

I know I'm pretty hardcore about this, but I'm not a fan of people making incorrect statements like your previous one about the Griot's not being a Flex, as if you mean it's not as good. Anyway, gonna step back now and let the post stay on topic. Gratz again man. Now get yourself a 4" backing plate and 5.5" Surbuf pads and find the worst car you can and go nuts! ;)
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OK my friend. Now maybe your a step over the line. It is apparent that you have quite a bit of passion for the GC machine. but to say my statement is incorrect is plainly wrong. So far in my experience it is not. The flex is a far better quality product in construction and build material. I like the forced rotation much better as well. In my admittedly limited amount of correction work so far it is not faster, time will tell on that I guess. Just because you have an opinion does not make mine wrong.
Mike
 
WOW This thread took on a life of it's own didn't it? Man I guess I should have known better.
 
bodavenport said:
WOW This thread took on a life of it's own didn't it? Man I guess I should have known better.
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Well, I for one am glad you did. As long as people are respectfull of each other I think a thread like this and the other one are healthy. I think for people that are looking to purchase one of the machines these threads can be constructive. They just have to wade through the entire thing and seperate the things that make sense to them from the things that don't. Their are some re-occurring comments that people don't disagree on.
Besides all that, I for one am thoroughly entertained. When you get a subject that people feel strongly about and the passion comes through it should be entertaining :)
 
Thats a good way of putting it, I know I read hundreds of posts and reviews before I got the GG and I guess others are doing the same, but yeah passionate is a good way to describe it.
 
I agree! People are entitled to their own opinion; and respect for others' opinions as well.
 
Glad I kind've read this post. Deciding on which polisher to buy (my first polisher) and I'm a noobie at this. Also I'm trying to save as much $$ as possible.
 
I hope some of the posts did not turn you away, All three, the PC, GG and the Flex are quality polishers, I and many others think that the GG machine is the best bang for the buck out there and does a fantastic job.
 
bodavenport said:
I hope some of the posts did not turn you away, All three, the PC, GG and the Flex are quality polishers, I and many others think that the GG machine is the best bang for the buck out there and does a fantastic job.
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It didnt turn me away, I'm actually considering the Griots polisher now. Hearing that it's more powerful and can take away defects faster and more efficient then the others is a good thing for the most part lol.

I was reading around and found out that only the new Griots polisher is worth getting, the older one was weaker and was not powerful enough to do anything to defects.
 
itzJoker said:
It didnt turn me away, I'm actually considering the Griots polisher now. Hearing that it's more powerful and can take away defects faster and more efficient then the others is a good thing for the most part lol.

I was reading around and found out that only the new Griots polisher is worth getting, the older one was weaker and was not powerful enough to do anything to defects.
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I got my Griot's last night. I also bought a Flex so I could compare. I'm keeping the Griots. For the difference in cost there is little benefit, if any over the Griot's. Simple economics for me. YMMV
 
Now we have the opinion of someone who has used both, sweet! Won't settle anything but I feel good about my choice.
 
bodavenport said:
Now we have the opinion of someone who has used both, sweet! Won't settle anything but I feel good about my choice.
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Keep in mind that my opinion is mine....you may not think the same, but for me I could not justify the added expense. There are others here who have used both and have a different opinion.
 
I love my Griot's. I co-bought it with a friend, and watching him use it with a little over the shoulder coaching and then letting him go on his own, he was thrilled. I did the black marker mark, and it's true, you have you put a stupid amount of pressure on it to stop spinning it. I was with a 6.5" pad, 6" BP and in 5 and it wouldn't stop.
 
OK we gave the Groit's a really fair test today. I bought my daughter a 2001 Black Ford Escape recently. Definitly lived in a drive through car wash its whole life and possibly dried with brillo pads. Pretty bad, we put a blue hydro pad on and some 105 did a section with the Groit's and then the Flex, it just got it done faster. Frankly the Groit's did a very good job in fact if your not wanting to spend Flex money this is the machne to buy IMO, but I am still a Flex fan. This pad was not aggressive enough to do the job so I threw on some 6.5" purple wool and the flex made it look 98% like new in no time. The Groit's did not handle the wool well at all. So going out to finish the truck in the wool and will then throw an orange hydro on the Groits with the 205 and then maybe some nano or RD85 to finsh. Will post up the results. No question the Groit's is a great machine, I think it is going to be a great finish/jeweling machine. Plus we can get the carpet brushes, 4" pads and other things you just cannot do with the flex. For tough stuff I like the flex a bit better however. Right now I believe having both is great. This made me want a rotary so I am shoping for that next LOL
Mike
 
did step 2 with the Groits, Tang Hydro and 105. All I can say is I am a fan. Super fast, great results. Definitly a great investment to our tool collection. For really tough jobs there is better gear but for 90% of your work I have to admit the Groits will get it done fast and well.
Mike
 
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