Applying a paste wax by machine?

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Is there any way to apply a paste wax like Collinite 476 with a buffer? I have a 3401XC with some black finishing pads and was wondering if maybe I can apply some of the collinite 476 paste wax onto the pad and use the buffer to apply it?
 
Kaban said:
Is there any way to apply a paste wax like Collinite 476 with a buffer? I have a 3401XC with some black finishing pads and was wondering if maybe I can apply some of the collinite 476 paste wax onto the pad and use the buffer to apply it?
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No
 
don't mind Flash (though I did laugh out loud when I read it)

just use a knife to spread it onto the pad and then give 'er
 
As a matter of fact, yes. Here's an excerpt from the following thread:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...w-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
How to apply a paste wax by machine
You'll need a DA Polisher like this Porter Cable 7424XP with a 5.5" Flat Gray Finishing Pad, Dodo Juice Banana Armour Hard Wax and some Microfiber Gloves. For this step you could substitute any quality finishing wax or paint sealant. Here's a list of finishing waxes, sealants and hybrids.

How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project


For this procedure I'm going to place a microfiber glove over one hand in order to hold the wax without contaminating it or without it slipping out of my hand.

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To get the wax out of the plastic jar you just have to carefully knock it out using inertia by holding the jar upside down and then knocking it against your other hand with a Microfiber Glove on it.

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Then hold the polisher in one hand and the wax in your other hand with the glove on it and blip the on/off button of the polisher while holding the wax against the face of the pad and you can quickly transfer wax to the pad.

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The Microfiber Gloves keep the wax clean until you place it back into the jar and enable you to grip the wax so it doesn't slip out of your hand and onto the floor...

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Ready to start laying down some Banana Armour...
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It takes a little muscle to do this because in one hand you're holding the wax and the other hand is holding the polisher for the duration of time it takes to run the polisher over every square inch of the car. If you had a helper they could hold the wax with microfiber gloves on and you could use both hands to hold the polisher, then as you needed more wax your helper could apply the wax while you hold the polisher, otherwise hit the gym.


If you look carefully you can see I spelled out Dodo on the hood in my wax pattern...

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In the forum world you'll often read people talking about getting the "Sun Shot" , that's where they pull their project car out into the sun to show there are no swirls in the paint.

The below shot is kind of like the "Sun Shot", but I call it the "Fun Shot" because I was just having some fun with the Dodo name in wax.

I used a rubberband to hold a Cobra Indigo Microfiber Bonnet over a 3" Griot's Garage Polishing Pad on a DA Polisher and took the wax off only where the word DODO was spelled out and then pulled the car into the sun for a "Fun Shot".

The Sun Shot Fun Shot
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Yep, this is how you get the high overhead shot, you have to get up in the air a little ways...

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Removing the wax
After capturing the fun shot I pulled the car back into our studio and let the hood cool down and then removed the wax by hand using Cobra Indigo Microfiber Towels. Always fold your towels 4 ways to give you 8 sides to wipe with and to provide cushion to spread out the pressure of you hand.

Below is a link to a video and at the end of the video I show how to remove Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 by hand using the Cobra Indigo Microfiber Towels. In this video I share a technique I call "Breaking the Wax Open" and then "Creeping Out". Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 is a finishing synthetic paint sealant but the technique shared in the video can be used with any finishing wax, sealant or hybrid.

How to Apply a Synthetic Paint Sealant by Hand using the Straightline Technique


After removing the majority of the wax it's time to give the paint a final wipe. Here's an article on the technique for giving paint a final wipe.

The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish
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That is awesome! Thanks so much to Mike for doing that step by step tutorial and to you my friend Shiny Lil for pulling up that great write-up!

I wish you the best!
 
I don't think 476 will come out of the can like the dodo juice...
 
i will get my DP Max this week, hope this way will be worked...
 
I think a butter knife is recommended to get the wax out of the can.
 
For the initial removal of the wax from the container, I place water in a frying pan, place the container in the water for a few seconds then take a butter knife and go around the edge and it pops right out.
 
Kaban said:
Is there any way to apply a paste wax like Collinite 476 with a buffer? I have a 3401XC with some black finishing pads and was wondering if maybe I can apply some of the collinite 476 paste wax onto the pad and use the buffer to apply it?
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I have found that using a plastic putty knife works great. Use the putty knife to apply (coat, across) a light amount to the pad and apply. Coat the pad so that you can see it. Thin is in. You will find that you will be able to judge the amount to apply to the pad quickly once you start.
 
jpegs13 said:
For the initial removal of the wax from the container, I place water in a frying pan, place the container in the water for a few seconds then take a butter knife and go around the edge and it pops right out.
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A variation of this is to use a hair blow dryer or a heat gun to lightly warm up the outside of the wax jar and then knock the jar against your hand upside down and the wax will usually slide out.

Then clean the inside of the jar out so there's no residual wax clinging to the sides or bottom and then smooth over the chunk that came out and then it will slide in and out easily.

I have a jar of Pinnacle all set-up for this for a project next week.

For those of you that use a PC style polisher, clean the wrench that came with your polisher really well and use the handle which is like a large, flat blade.

:)
 
Mornin everyone :)


A4 1.8tqm said:
Funniest thing since seeing Joe Rogan's Standup last week!

Mmmm, dem good ROFL Waffles! :laughing:
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Gee thanks, but I wasn't trying to be funny this time

This is another one of those things I just don't get. By the time you get your machine, pads, white gloves, frying pans and butter knifes out, I will have already applied and removed my LSP. I see no benefit whatsoever in this

To each his own I suppose :bolt:
 
Do I apply paste wax by hand with a foam pad? Yes, I think most of us do or at least have at some time in our lives. What I'm not fond of is applying too much product thus wasting it and making it more difficult to remove.

Since I started using my Porter Cable 7424 to apply most of my waxes and sealants I've discovered that I can apply just the right amount laying down a nice think coat that's easy to buff but also providing a nice protective coat.

While liquid waxes are a no brainer, paste waxes require a bit more strategy and ingenuity to get them from the can to the pad.

I use a couple of different methods;

I took a 1 1/2" wide paint brush and cut the bristles back to about 1/2 long from the ferrule. This makes the spine of the bristles very stiff allowing me to scrape enough wax then deposit it on the pad. Some waxes are harder than others so this doesn't work all that well on them.

I also use a butter or putty knife to scrape out just the right amount and apply "it" to the pad. Once the pad is placed against the surface and the polisher started the wax simply begins to soften and melt allowing me to work it into the paint nicely..

Necessity is the mother of invention...It's all about what works best for you...:props:
 
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