applying ceramic for the first time,

well i just went ahead and ordered these:
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dont think i need anything else do i ??

apparently the Lite cquartz is arriving soon so i might just apply that, but i must say the original cquartz doesnt seem impossible to do either ! and i may end up Trying it on the family car !...

BSoares said:
The secret is to use and then immediately soak them in a bucket with APC/MF cleaner and then once done wash them all. No need to throw them out.
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just wondering since i have just 4 towels if soak the WHOLE towel in water immediately after applying the coating on a single panel. then i guess not many towels left to do the whole car right ??! or i need more towels in this scenario ? does that apply for cquartz Lite as well ??

finally can i dilute 2oz of MF cleaner with a whole bucket of water or any special dilution ratio etc..?
 
Yeah, 4 towels probably only enough to do one layer of whatever coating it is. Lite will require same amount of towels.
2oz sound fine, you really just need them to stay wet and any cleaner will just help break down the curing that could be starting.
 
BSoares said:
Yeah, 4 towels probably only enough to do one layer of whatever coating it is. Lite will require same amount of towels.
2oz sound fine, you really just need them to stay wet and any cleaner will just help break down the curing that could be starting.
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My question actually is if I throw that entire towel immediately into a water bucket right after removing the flashing product from ONE SECTION. Well then I will probably need maybe 15 towels or so not just 4 ?!...
 
jojokoko said:
My question actually is if I throw that entire towel immediately into a water bucket right after removing the flashing product from ONE SECTION. Well then I will probably need maybe 15 towels or so not just 4 ?!...
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Use two towels at a time. After about half car you switch them with clean ones. Soak the ones you were using. So 4 towels per layer of coating. You can use more but I’d say 4 is the minimum for each layer.
 
You’ll need to have at least 4 and I say 6 to remove coating. Remember you’ll Need to follow up with a towel for buffing and leveling after you remove.

Like I and budget mentioned before get a 10 pack of TRC 300-350 edgeless and you’ll be fine.

You won’t replace the buffing/leveling towel as often.


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jojokoko said:
My question actually is if I throw that entire towel immediately into a water bucket right after removing the flashing product from ONE SECTION. Well then I will probably need maybe 15 towels or so not just 4 ?!...
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Here is what I have done and it seems to work. I fill up a bucket with a couple gallons of water. I then add a strong mixture of Micro Restore into the bucket. Once I feel that the towel is not absorbing product but rather pushing it around I will toss it in the bucket and let it soak. I will do the same for the other towels after I am all finished. I will then wash them in the washing machine with more micro restore but less concentrated. The towels have come out fine so far.
 
BSoares said:
You want to do Trix before claying and polishing. So you can do that before they get your car. Just make sure to wash it after applying and before taking your car in for polishing.
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dammit it seems like i will have to find another detailer then ! my car is already coated ! they need to Remove the old coat, by polishing, clay and decontaminate, then polish again after claying, use IPA, and its all up to me then to install the new coat.
 
The Guz said:
Here is what I have done and it seems to work. I fill up a bucket with a couple gallons of water. I then add a strong mixture of Micro Restore into the bucket. Once I feel that the towel is not absorbing product but rather pushing it around I will toss it in the bucket and let it soak. I will do the same for the other towels after I am all finished. I will then wash them in the washing machine with more micro restore but less concentrated. The towels have come out fine so far.
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ok thanks that probably what am gonna do then !...
 
jojokoko said:
dammit it seems like i will have to find another detailer then ! my car is already coated ! they need to Remove the old coat, by polishing, clay and decontaminate, then polish again after claying, use IPA, and its all up to me then to install the new coat.
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They can polish once after the other steps even if your removing a coating. Claying, Iron remover, Trix (tar remover). All are gonna remove bonded contamination which will be on top of your old coating. Once removed polish and bingo.

Still say if your gonna spend $300 buy a g8 and do it yourself. Not hard at all just gotta be a little careful.


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jojokoko said:
dammit it seems like i will have to find another detailer then ! my car is already coated ! they need to Remove the old coat, by polishing, clay and decontaminate, then polish again after claying, use IPA, and its all up to me then to install the new coat.
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You should still do it before they polish. After years the bonded contaminants are on your coating (or whatever is left of it), not under it. So you're just removing those in order for them to polish without adding more swirls. The polish will remove whatever is left and give you a surface that is ready to accept a new coating. After a prep wipe, of course.
 
Coatingsarecrack said:
They can polish once after the other steps even if your removing a coating. Claying, Iron remover, Trix (tar remover). All are gonna remove bonded contamination which will be on top of your old coating. Once removed polish and bingo.

Still say if your gonna spend $300 buy a g8 and do it yourself. Not hard at all just gotta be a little careful.


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well that's good to know, so any issue if reapply trix and ironx then IPA AGAIN before i install the coating ?

am gonna use the Lite this time and judging from the videos and what everyone says its a pretty straight forward job so not worried really,

thanks a lot for your advises guys !...
 
If it’s already polished I’d not use Iron-X/Trix. Save it for when Lite is done and you’re getting the car ready for a new application.
 
jojokoko said:
well that's good to know, so any issue if reapply trix and ironx then IPA AGAIN before i install the coating ?

am gonna use the Lite this time and judging from the videos and what everyone says its a pretty straight forward job so not worried really,

thanks a lot for your advises guys !...
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Note a pro buy any means but I parked in a holiday in parking lot for like 15 mins......

Applying trix and iron X twice prolly over kill.

I would:

Pressure wash
Foam cannon if you have
Wash (I like to use one wash bucket with 7-8 MF mitts)
Dry
Iron X
Rinse
Trix where needed
Rinse
Dry.

Then IPA. I like CP Eraser or Gyeon prep over IPA. Don’t know if it’s actually better but made for that prep.

Also don’t remember who posted above but really all this should be done before polish. Lil overkill to do again after but a Geek’s gotta geek.... go for it and good luck

And remember polish and oil removal most important so invest in one of the above mentioned.... actually maybe Gtechnic panel wipe.... ice heard good things...


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jojokoko said:
well that's good to know, so any issue if reapply trix and ironx then IPA AGAIN before i install the coating ?
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Why? If it is going back home after the detail shop then it won't have time for ferrous contaminants to get on the paint.

If anything wash it with a soap that contains no wax, prep wipe (Eraser or equivalent) and coat. IPA is ok but it won't have enough lubrication which could potentially marr the surface. Get yourself some Eraser and use that after a wash.

No need to overthink or complicate the process.
 
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