Are "love marks" inevitable??

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I washed my Explorer today and I'm always extra careful when washing my paint, foam cannon, my mitts and drying towels after every wash, change them regularly, and always use drying aid plus the master blaster sidekick, but today the sun hit the paint and I saw "love marks" on the paint. I inspect my paint after every wash with the sun and scan grip lights. I'm guess it was when I did a second coat of CMX a day after the initial application. I used the sidekick to blow the dust off the paint, but i never noticed these Marks until after that application. Any tips on applying additional coats of any product the follow day? Should I simply hose down the car and dry it first?

I guess I'll be using 3D ONE sooner than I thought lol.

The picture is just to show the color I'm working with.
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I believe they are inevitable to some degree. If you’re going to add an additional layer of something after the vehicle has sat for any amount of time, I’d use a waterless wash after the Sidekick or even a rinseless wash. Explorer looks great BTW!
 
Best thing to do is to either blow the dust off then do a waterless wash with something like McKee’s N-914 or give it a quik rinse followed by the waterless with N-914. You want to use something like that because it leaves nothing behind and won’t interfere with what you’re about to lay down.

Personally I’d go with the 1st method.
 
Thank you for the tips! Definitely learned my lesson. I keep hearing so many good things a out N-914, I need to buy some after I finish my ONR.

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Fact of business.

Even the most careful of us will instill a swirl here or there.

If we didn't, there would no need for this forum. Lol

I stopped worrying about "every single little swirl" years ago. They can always be corrected.

Just be as careful as you can with the methods described above, and here on AGO in general.

This hobby should be fun, not another stress in your life. :props:
 
PaulMys said:
Fact of business.

Even the most careful of us will instill a swirl here or there.

If we didn't, there would no need for this forum. Lol

I stopped worrying about "every single little swirl" years ago. They can always be corrected.

Just be as careful as you can with the methods described above, and here on AGO in general.

This hobby should be fun, not another stress in your life. :props:
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Thank you for that!

It is just my luck that this happens the day before I planned on showing my to a potential client to show him my work! Hahahaha. I'm sure he won't notice, but I'll take my wife's Jeep instead. The Jeep is love mark free since I just polished it a month ago.

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It depends on many factors, some you can control like the method you are using and the products and so on. Washing the car too often is the one thing you can avoid by doing a pressure washing and not following with a hand wash. Of course it is much easier to do this if the car is ceramic coated. If not, a pressure wash might not remove enough of the dirt without a proper wash afterwards.

Some of the aspects you cannot control is the paint hardness. If you have soft paint, no matter how you wash the car it is almost impossible not do create micro scratches. On harder paint it is possible to prevent pretty much all marring.
 
To answer your thread title question, in my opinion, yes, they are inevitable on a daily or frequently driven vehicle. Over the years I have significantly reduced the chance of creating even minor scratching however have not found any way to totally eliminate them 100%.

As Mike P says "anytime you touch a vehicle you risk marring".
 
I also have no idea what you're talking about...Surely there's proper terminology that could be used here? Love marks? That's a new one for me :)
 
Mike Phillips said:
Got help out a brother man....


What do you mean by love marks?


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Love Marks: Swirls and scratches induced by OCD wipe downs and washing. Not necessarily caused by neglect, automatic car washes or improper technique, rather a combination of soft paint, and an incessant need to keep it dirt/dust free.

That’s how I understand it. Mike, feel free to use that in the next book revision. Lol




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Paul A. said:
To answer your thread title question, in my opinion, yes, they are inevitable on a daily or frequently driven vehicle. Over the years I have significantly reduced the chance of creating even minor scratching however have not found any way to totally eliminate them 100%.
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Agree. "Stuff" will happen like someone will brush against your car in a parking lot, a few marks created while removing snow/ice, an unseen partical gets into your wash mitt or drying towel, etc.

You can't stress it to much and simply do all you can to reduce the chances of it happening.
 
Desertnate said:
Agree. "Stuff" will happen like someone will brush against your car in a parking lot, a few marks created while removing snow/ice, an unseen partical gets into your wash mitt or drying towel, etc.

You can't stress it to much and simply do all you can to reduce the chances of it happening.
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^^ this.

My car got it’s first one over winter. Somewhere someone bumped my back bumper and put in a series of small lines as they must have been turning into a spot.

They buffed out 90-95%. Not through the clear but what it looks like is a depression in the clear coat with like 4 lines. Small and will likely never been noticed by anyone but me. Sucks but it is just a car.

My wife has had no less than 5 door dings in her Lincoln. UGH..... I got them all out 100% but two had to have some touch up paint applied. Again, I call them 95% fixed and while slightly noticeable if you look, they certainly aren’t anything to cry about. Especially considering what they were in terms of also having had a corresponding dent. Thankfully they were in locations that I was able to get them out easily.


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I guess even parking far away can’t 100% prevent stuff. Shame. :(
 
Bill D said:
I guess even parking far away can’t 100% prevent stuff. Shame. :(
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nope. I do most all the time but there are occasions where I have to reside in the general population.


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TTQ B4U said:
^^ this.

My car got it’s first one over winter. Somewhere someone bumped my back bumper and put in a series of small lines as they must have been turning into a spot.

They buffed out 90-95%. Not through the clear but what it looks like is a depression in the clear coat with like 4 lines. Small and will likely never been noticed by anyone but me. Sucks but it is just a car.

My wife has had no less than 5 door dings in her Lincoln. UGH..... I got them all out 100% but two had to have some touch up paint applied. Again, I call them 95% fixed and while slightly noticeable if you look, they certainly aren’t anything to cry about. Especially considering what they were in terms of also having had a corresponding dent. Thankfully they were in locations that I was able to get them out easily.


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Here in Sweden it's almost like hey there is a nice car lets ding it with the door. And also the parking space it self is too little. I often think about it when on here and see all of the trucks. If you parked 5 of them beside each other as you should. At least 3 of them would not getting out of them LOL. It's has been better in some parking places in the little town I live in. As they have been resizing them to a little larger. But in no way you can open car doors at full.

Do you do the PDR your self?

Those guys and gals that are really great at it can do some magic!

/ Tony
 
I like hearing "I don't know how it got there...I didn't put anything on the hood!".

OCD is NOT fun. ;)

Eric
 
It will not matter with your washing or drying technique. Eventually, you car will get some scratches. Driving will cause it. Their is pollen, dust and many other EXTERNAL FACTORS that will scratch your paint. If you ride was in a sealed environment and you don't drive it, then you would not have any scratches. I say live with it as more than likely ONLY YOU will notice the imperfections. MOST people won't!

Either way KEEP ON ROCKING!
 
Yeah it’s about pleasing yourself, not others. Other people could care less about your property.
 
LSNAutoDetailing said:
Love Marks: Swirls and scratches induced by OCD wipe downs and washing. Not necessarily caused by neglect, automatic car washes or improper technique, rather a combination of soft paint, and an incessant need to keep it dirt/dust free.

That’s how I understand it. Mike, feel free to use that in the next book revision. Lol




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Thank you everyone for your advice!

LSN hit it on the head! It is like when a kid gets a new stuffed animal and loves it sooooo much and hugs it too tight so the head pops off lol.

I love cleaning my car and my OCD gets the best of me so I go after every streak and smudge, but the extra wiping increases the chances of marring, no matter how hard I try to be gentle.

I will definitely start doing rinseless and waterless washes before applying additional coats of product, or I will control my OCD and leave it alone. Lol

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