Are these samples liquid souveran?

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So over the past two weeks I couldn't resist the BOGO's and made two separate orders. With each order, I added the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran wax samples. I have never used this product and have no idea what its consistency or color are supposed to be.

The two samples that I received are both labled as Liquid Souveran but seem to be quite different. Which is Souveran and what the heck is the other one?? I've attached two pictures of the products side by side. One product is milky white and very watery. It also separates extremely quickly. Within just a few minutes the product begins to separate and shy of 10minutes, you can see in the second picture what it looks like. The sample has a clear layer to it just below the center of the product.

The second product in comparison has an orange hue to it and seems thicker, almost creamy. When it arrived at my house today it was somewhat separated but had no defined layer to it. There seemed to be streaks and bubbles that were not mixed. This product took some vigorous shaking to get it mixed again. Thoughts?


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I've used the product alot and it always works great. I have to shake it up really good every time or it tends to seperate. After shaking up it you will not be disappointed.
 
I understand they need to be shaken but why is it that one is still well mixed after several hours and the other separates in minutes. The consistency and colors are different as well. I can't see how they are the same product. The color difference is more pronounced to the eye, not the best photo's above. Best comparison I can give on consistency is one seems like water, the other seems as thick as the icing you see on cinnamon rolls. How can that be the same product?
 
looks quite similar, mix then both together and have one complete uniform version.
 
My take ? Sample on the left was well mixed(shaken) before being sampled. Like at the end or beginning of a particular shift. And the opposite for the other sample.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
looks quite similar, mix then both together and have one complete uniform version.
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:xyxthumbs: That was my original plan. Wanted to confirm they were the same first as I've never seen them before and how different they seemed. Thanks for the responses!
 
Gonna agree with everyone on this, looked like it needs a good shake. I've got quite a few products that separate after sitting for awhile. They are not in clear containers so I can't see them but when I shake them I can feel/hear the liquid go from watery to mixed.

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I had a bunch of Pinnacle Souveran Liquid Wax samples and found them to be different as well. I shook them up, I mean really shook them then poured them in one container...

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I always get the liquid souveran as a sample,I have 8 of them and the last 2 I've gotten have been much lighter than the others so I was worried as well.They do smell exactly like the rest though and after some hard shaking the colors are now more similar.My older samples tend to separate more than the newer ones.
 
I am going to throw myself into the mix and say similar as the rest. I too had those concerns and just decided "what the hell" and mixed them all together. I was concerned after and am glad someone bucked up and asked the question haha! Now I am more confident about my decision from a couple months ago.
 
Thanks everyone, mixed them up and the two bottles are holding their consistency. Now if only this damn snow will go away so I can try the stuff!!

Also want to thank Autogeek for the great free sample selection. A previous sample of WGDGPS got me to buy the full bottle.
 
glad to see it worked out good for you!. i have the seperation issue with some WGDGPS then i took a paper clip bent it in a N shape and chucked it in my drill to mix it up, made it much thicker, uniform, and did not separate for months. i found that really weird. im guessing these might need air infused when mixing to get consistency right as they are emulsions. just something i noticed because shaking bottles for long takes too much effort!!!. one thing though i love AG having the free samples main reason why i stick to buying from AG wish other sites did this. most if they get a sample and like the product they will buy the full size bottle. on that note i wish they would make the sample policy to be 1 free sample for EVERY $50 you spend. then again on bigger orders if you ask you usually will recieve. heck ive even asked for 2 samples on a small order and got them. just is the luck of the draw with smaller orders and more then 1 sample.
 
Well, this thread just reminded me I forgot to add my liquid souveran sample to my order yesterday.

Oh, and those are both souveran. I've received 10+ samples of liquid souveran all looking like those to some degree or another. Varies quite a bit believe it or not, and all are fine once mixed in a bottle.
 
Good idea with the paper clip. When I had the WGDGPS sample, one application was only half the sample. When I got around to using the other half (3months maybe) it was hopelessly separated. Shook that thing for close to 30 mins and it was still completely separated. With my full bottle I've been shaking it weekly out of fear. I'll keep that paper lip in mind. Might even swap it to a clear bottle to see if it is mixed.
 
It's not just the Liquid Souveran that separates, but the WG Deep Gloss Sealant too =) My approach has been to shake the product in a 3/4 to 1/2 full bottle to aerate the liquid and give it a nice creamy texture.

I always suspect that in some bottles, they didn't really shake the big gallon container before filling the sample bottles... mixing samples together helps to even it out.
 
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