then we can talk, until then you will not win my business, period.
Danube, you’ve already stated that multiple times so I guess Antonio and the others have got the message. Not much point in over doing it.
I’m with you to a great degree as I do think our guys could reduce their prices and be more competitive, but quite obviously they think they are getting along fine with their pricing where it is. I really doubt you harping your point is going to change anything. Just shows there must be other reasons why some of us support the local guys.
I also do agree that some of Antonio’s points are weak. Shipping costs, import duties and custom charges, their 12.5% forum discount as compared to AG’s 10% forum discount, Ok much of that is mostly spin and we all know we can use freight forwarders to reduce shipping costs for the heavier items.
As a consumer I think you just need to get smarter and be “picky”. Buy from AG when it makes sense and buy from the Aussie guys when it doesn’t make sense to buy from AG. There are advantages both ways.
Using an example like Menz polishes and the Waxit prices look reasonable compared to AG, especially if you need it like today. But if you need Megs M105 or M205 or anything else Megs, well you’d be insane to purchase from the locals. Same goes for LC pads. Going to another extreme, the best wheel cleaner out there, Sonax Extreme is available at your local Repco shop or even AutoBarn at an even better price than AG.
But then again purchasing a polisher from the US like you did is just insane in my opinion. What are you going to do if your Flex rotary packs it in – ship it back to the US for repairs?
The one thing I will say for Waxit and Antonio is that their service, backup and advice is superb. As an example I purchased a DAS-6 from them and in 15 months they replaced/repaired it 6 times, plus gave me a loaner machine each time. I doubt that even AG could match that service level with a Porter Cable or a Groits machine. To top that off the last time it failed they replaced it with their own Concours 900, so now I have two Concours machines plus my Shinex rotary (which has never given me any problems). Even one of the Concours did a shaft and bearing and it was repaired while I waited, so their service is about as good as it can get.
Of course not all Aussie distributors provide the type or level of service that Waxit does, so it does depend on who you deal with here. Note that Antonio from Waxit has at least attempted to address your concerns – where are the other local guys?
Earlier this month, I purchased ONR from the Sydney distributor (you know who) and got completely ripped off. The gallon that was delivered was the old formula even though the new formula ONR was released last February. What really annoyed me was that he had a prior opportunity of informing me that he was unloading the old formula, but he chose not to. When I queried it after receiving it, he waffled on about order delays even though every other Optimum distributor throughout the world had stock of the new formula by then. To his credit he did offer that I could return the product, but the condition was I had to pay the freight both ways. As you can imagine that wasn’t financially viable. To top that off, the gutless wonder then had my IP address banned the same day from our Aussie forum Detail Paradise, as though it was his company’s forum.
You live and learn, but he can be assured that I’ve spent my last cent with his lousy company. Dr. G. should seriously rethink his Australian distributor in my opinion. It again, just goes to prove that a company such as Optimum, who provide outstanding products, can be so easily let down by their distributors and their support team.