Away for a while - preparing for this back surgery thing
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ShaunD
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Tony, it's a blessing to know the strength you receive from you faith. I pray that God puts the very best people in your corner to heal you.
Have you ever tried acupuncture or acupressure? It has helped several people that I know, including my cousin's husband how has a neck injury that can't be operated on. I'm sure you've tried just about everything but, I wanted to ask.
Many prayers heading your way.
Have you ever tried acupuncture or acupressure? It has helped several people that I know, including my cousin's husband how has a neck injury that can't be operated on. I'm sure you've tried just about everything but, I wanted to ask.
Many prayers heading your way.
HateSwirls
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Tony and I spoke a few times, he's in awful pain as I was, I say was because after my back surgery last October and another procedure only last week I'm pain free.
I told Tony how well I'm doing now.
Tony, I'll prayer for you daily my new friend until I hear that you too are pain free.
Best wishes, tell Deb I'll say a prayer for her too because I know to well how hard it is for the Mrs.
Call when your up to it.
I told Tony how well I'm doing now.
Tony, I'll prayer for you daily my new friend until I hear that you too are pain free.
Best wishes, tell Deb I'll say a prayer for her too because I know to well how hard it is for the Mrs.
Call when your up to it.
CarolinasFinestDetailing
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Prayers going out to you and your family sir! I wish I was closer so that I could lend a hand.
Best of luck Tony. I suffer from two bulging discs, L4/L5 and L5/S1. Started with sciatica and could only manage to crawl on the floor for the first month. Been denied surgery twice since after the pain down my leg went away, the lower back pain was not consistent with bulging discs.
Anyhow, I was lucky to avoid surgery with a conservative doctor who wanted to treat me like his own son, and not recommend surgery. I was once a couple of days away from a microdiscectomy. I wanted it more than anything too. I guess I'm lucky I didn't have to have it in hindsight. I've read good and bad and talked to numerous people who had it.
I feel for you though. Knowing what I went through, and knowing that I could never carry my daughter again (she was 3 at the time). I was heartbroken.
You will be in my prayers, and hope for a successful surgery and a speedy recovery. Take care.
Rick
Anyhow, I was lucky to avoid surgery with a conservative doctor who wanted to treat me like his own son, and not recommend surgery. I was once a couple of days away from a microdiscectomy. I wanted it more than anything too. I guess I'm lucky I didn't have to have it in hindsight. I've read good and bad and talked to numerous people who had it.
I feel for you though. Knowing what I went through, and knowing that I could never carry my daughter again (she was 3 at the time). I was heartbroken.
You will be in my prayers, and hope for a successful surgery and a speedy recovery. Take care.
Rick
It did NOT help me. In fact, the next day my pain was worse and had to go to the ER. First time getting morphine.
cmanningjr
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Inversion therapy has helped me with my lower back...
Chiropractics are hit and miss..
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Chiropractics are hit and miss..
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cardaddy
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Guys I want you all to know how much your thoughts and prayers mean to us both. I've not been near my laptop till today, (signal doesn't work in the bedroom) but finally got fed up and ran a wire in here. I feel like I should address each of you individually, but know that even though I'm not, I recognize your friendship on and all.
My family is all gone, including a younger brother (he was 11 years younger) that killed himself by taking the very same meds that I take. Thing was, he was a thief, junkie, and generally co-dependent on whatever drama he could stir up. He started his drug spiral when my Mother was sick with cancer, taking some of hers. Thing is, he was an EXCELLENT care taker, and while he never had a decent job, he quit the one he did have to take care of her. She didn't want for anything, his life was her. Then again, she paid for everything he ever had, roof over his head, cars, food, clothed his kids, (therein the co-dependent thing). Mom and Dad had long gone, and afterwards he and I were on separate paths in life (always were actually). He and I hadn't spoken for 3 years when I got a call one day, he was on his death bed and they wanted me to come. It was then I found out that the very same meds that some of us NEED to survive, and we manage them successfully, he had been abusing for a decade. Oh well.
I'd hoped during those years that he was getting his act together and after all was said and done that in our golden years we'd go on to grow old together. Can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime.... ya' get what you need.
Anyhow, we surround ourselves with like minded people and that is where true happiness is to be found. It isn't a far reach to say that here at AGO, there are some of the best, most kind, God fearing, sharing people I've had the privilege to know. I thank you ALL for that. For the most part it's the art of detailing that brings us here. With the exception of a select few that just think of forums as yet another way to try and advertise, showing what a great gift they are by flooding photos left and right perhaps, or maybe it's a give to all things (doesn't have to be detailing, just making a point), yet outside in the real world wouldn't give you the time of day.
What I'm getting at, is I am humbled to have been able to both learn and hopefully share knowledge with others, in hopes that it has been appreciated. I'll never pretend to be anything more than what I am, but I will always be the BEST at what I can do. I'll always give what time I can, to whomever I can and openly accept the same from as many around me as I can. In doing so hopefully, by the Grace of God we can all be better for it.
I do know that I am blessed to be able to share what I have here with you all, and have been blessed to have been a part of what you all share. I wouldn't, or couldn't imagine it any other way.
Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for that!:grouphug:
I did want to address a couple of specifics if y'all don't mind.
@rstark
Rick, brother I feel your pain. Were I able to bend over enough to crawl, I'd been doing that more than walking these last 8~10 weeks WITHOUT A DOUBT. Our house is a 5/3½ ranch with a full finished basement. There are MONTHS when I don't go downstairs. It's what, 15 steps, and those steps are more than I can do more often than not. Now *crawling up* those stairs????? I've done that more than I've walked up them in the almost 10 years we've lived here.
Oh, on the morphine. I take 2 muscle relaxers, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, (Xanax used to, but did get a bottle last month), 50mg Morphine ER that I have all but refused to take through the years. Same thing with the Duragesic/Fentanyl patches. Both of those they gave my Mother when she was dying from cancer. I didn't want ANYTHING you give someone when they are dying. Surely I'm not dying.... not yet anyhow? So anyhow, I'd count out what I took, and my average in 2012 was .4 a day. Plus there was the fentanyl (both 50mcg and 75mcg from 2009 foward) that I also didn't want to use. Seems better to do the short acting, than KEEP it in your system 24/7. That sort of thinking stopped me from taking the long acting stuff whenever possible. Managed to keep the average at under .5 a day until last August then it started creeping up. Problem is, you end up taking 1 a day, then you end up taking 2 (just like the doctor ordered). Doesn't mean you have to like it! And this boy DOESN'T LIKE IT!
However, not liking it, and realizing you'll do whatever it takes to survive sometimes puts you at odds with yourself. Although no matter how many, how often, or what time of day, I've never had a problem just stopping. Lord wiling.... we get through this one and we can throw most all of them away.
Not being delusional because I still have trouble in two other places, two that ARE NOT going to be fixed, probably never. Although about now, they could do lumbar and yet another cervical surgery on my neck and just fix them both. I think I should get a discount getting both done at the same time!
@ShaunD
In the very early days, back in 2002, I did some sort of decompression. If I remember it right they called it Vax-D. You had a tight back brace sort of thing strapped around you and you laid down, face down on a table. The had you hold on to handle bars at the top and the brace was hooked to a winch below your feet. (Many times I couldn't hold on to the top because of my thoracic spine problems so they'd run a strap under both arms, across my back and up to the handle bars.) It'd pull on you for 15 seconds hard, up to 60 pounds of pressure, then relax to about 10 pounds of pressure for 15 seconds. So each one was a 30 second cycle. They'd do 30 on, then 30 off until you had 15 minutes on the table. (The table would also split beneath you when it was pulling.)
Afterwards they'd hook you up to a TENS unit/muscle stimulator underneath a big stack of moist heat packs for another 15 minutes.
It gave some relief, but only after I had been going 5 days a week for over a month. Then I was going 3 days a week for 3 more months, then 2 then 1.
Would it work now? Just don't know, but I'd try it!
I also have two types of inversion devices. The typical hook your ankles and lean back till you're upside down. Then I have one that's like a saw horse where you walk up to it and place your pelvis against a pad with a 1" solid bar that goes between your legs to large pads behind both thighs right below your rear end. Then you lean forward and you flip over in an inverted seated position with all your weight basically on the front of your thighs. This one tends to straighten out the curvature of your lower spine and used to give me decent relief, but that was even before the decompression therapy and the ankle grabbing teeter totter type unit. IMHO the teeter totter is easier and safer. NEITHER of those would work now AT ALL!
@HateSwirls
Kevin my friend, what can I say. I feel we've shared a kinship, hopefully once we get the two of us moving around like we're supposed to, we'll be able to take you up on enjoying a pot of those sweet crawfish y'all do so good down there. I look forward to that more than you know brother!
rops:
@dougsrt
Doug, knowing your wife is pain free after a triple fusion gives me hope! I can use that about now, BOY CAN I USE THAT ABOUT NOW!
@radarryan
So you remember the "Dreaded black Porsche"?
Funny how that thread went away don't you think? I never mentioned who that (other guy) OG was as it didn't matter, what happened that day and what I was talking about was ME and nothing else. But I was told that he told everyone who he was, that he was mad enough to consider litigation (had his name been mentioned, but mentioned his name anyhow) which was HIS FIRST THREAD here on AGO, then followed that up saying he wasn't a "flamer". :dunno: I didn't have a chance, nor would I have replied to such attacks. The facts are what they are, (and I still have the Wal-Mart receipt to show for not getting paid for supplies that were not provided). As for a second thread, there wasn't one, up until a couple of weeks ago and there was some communication, openly in the forum of course, (only because I had mentioned my nephew come to find out, had worked with him before I did) then again... a rather public attack made at me on that one too. I didn't reply to that one either, as they tend to come at odd times. But funny enough, that thread closed, was re-edited removing quite a few posts, then re-opened. Can we say DRAMA-RAMA? But look at the pretty pictures. Oh my.
@FUNX725
Bob, Psalm 6:2 hit it on the head my friend. Surely my bones have been vexed. But moreover, Psalm 6:3 comes close to where I'm at about now: (From the NIV version, Deb's in parallel NKJ and NIV)
My soul is in deep anguish.
How long, Lord, how long?
Or NKJ
My soul is also sore vexed:
but thou, O Lord, how long?
@Dr Pain
Claude,
You brother, have been reading my mind! It's getting a bit tired in here.
@mikelambert
Mike, I've seen those contraptions. My regular doctor had one on the counter last summer. I couldn't BELIEVE they would put something so mid-evil inside of a living human being. Oh Lord help me!
@cmanningjr
After 2, is there true relief? Please tell me there is.
Everyone I've talked to, or talked about has said they end up going back later and getting the one above it done. My sweet Lord!
@BobbyG
Really good to hear from you sir. You were one of the very first to welcome me here. Your presence has been missed more than you know. Thank you so much for your prayers.
@ShaunD
No sir, no "acu" of any type. But at this point, I can't imagine anything that'd make it hurt worse. Hopefully Tuesday we'll formulate a plan of attack and it'll be SWIFT. Just as long as it works.
So anyhow.... enough of my stories. Being as the only way I could do all this tonight was run a darned cable from the family room all the way to the bedroom, I better get it unplugged and out of the way before my wife gets up in the morning and trips over it.
Today is the FIRST DAY this week I've been able to walk out into the garage. Not exactly progress, probably more related to the added pain meds than anything.
But I really am going to need the wife this weekend something fierce! We have a Camry Hybrid, (black single stage of course) wanting a coating. I cannot turn it down, but I can't do the detailing either. We'll put the 'boy' to work doing wheels and stick the GG6 in his hands to do the bottom end. Then.... "Car-momma" got herself a brand new Rupes Duetto Kit today!
YES you heard that right, I broke down and got her a new buffer. She sorta' likes doing it. Well not like WE like doing it, but she will come around. To see her get that look in her eyes doing the Jag a couple of weeks ago you could tell. You could see it, her focus changed, the way she held the tool changed, and the quality of her work went from good, to great. (Gotta' get a handle on that.... you know how we tend to get carried away, thinking EVERYONE needs a total paint correction!!!!!!!) Well she kept going back till I had to unplug the thing, I kid you not.c7424:So I figured if she liked he GG6 that much that she'd LOVE the Duetto. Props to Nick for helping me out with that one. rops:
So the plan is to get this car here Friday afternoon and have till Sunday afternoon. What takes me 10 hours will take her and 'the boy' more for sure, but at least I can sit and watch. Hopefully, once they get it all washed, IronX'd, and clayed/Nanoskinned I can do the roof and outer edges of the hood, and all the trunk. Long as I don't have to bend over.
Hey, at least she didn't go bonkers on me!
She actually liked the lil' Duetto. She's played with it a bit, was thinking the added stroke was going to help, and even commented on it being smoother. That's a win win in Cardaddy's world.
Prayers are helping guys, I'll take little steps any day, any day at all. I'll pray all day for anyone that wants and needs it. But I will NOT pray for myself. I'll ask for strength and understanding, but not healing. Figure whatever cross I have to bear the good Lord wanted me to. There is a reason, I may not know the why, but as long as I believe I can overcome the how. That's why I asked you all for your help and believing in prayer can make us whole.
This is why I do not pray for my OWN healing as HE will restore us and make us strong:
1 Peter 5:10
And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
Again, thank you all,
Tony & Deb
My family is all gone, including a younger brother (he was 11 years younger) that killed himself by taking the very same meds that I take. Thing was, he was a thief, junkie, and generally co-dependent on whatever drama he could stir up. He started his drug spiral when my Mother was sick with cancer, taking some of hers. Thing is, he was an EXCELLENT care taker, and while he never had a decent job, he quit the one he did have to take care of her. She didn't want for anything, his life was her. Then again, she paid for everything he ever had, roof over his head, cars, food, clothed his kids, (therein the co-dependent thing). Mom and Dad had long gone, and afterwards he and I were on separate paths in life (always were actually). He and I hadn't spoken for 3 years when I got a call one day, he was on his death bed and they wanted me to come. It was then I found out that the very same meds that some of us NEED to survive, and we manage them successfully, he had been abusing for a decade. Oh well.
I'd hoped during those years that he was getting his act together and after all was said and done that in our golden years we'd go on to grow old together. Can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime.... ya' get what you need.
Anyhow, we surround ourselves with like minded people and that is where true happiness is to be found. It isn't a far reach to say that here at AGO, there are some of the best, most kind, God fearing, sharing people I've had the privilege to know. I thank you ALL for that. For the most part it's the art of detailing that brings us here. With the exception of a select few that just think of forums as yet another way to try and advertise, showing what a great gift they are by flooding photos left and right perhaps, or maybe it's a give to all things (doesn't have to be detailing, just making a point), yet outside in the real world wouldn't give you the time of day.
What I'm getting at, is I am humbled to have been able to both learn and hopefully share knowledge with others, in hopes that it has been appreciated. I'll never pretend to be anything more than what I am, but I will always be the BEST at what I can do. I'll always give what time I can, to whomever I can and openly accept the same from as many around me as I can. In doing so hopefully, by the Grace of God we can all be better for it.
I do know that I am blessed to be able to share what I have here with you all, and have been blessed to have been a part of what you all share. I wouldn't, or couldn't imagine it any other way.
Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for that!:grouphug:
I did want to address a couple of specifics if y'all don't mind.
@rstark
Rick, brother I feel your pain. Were I able to bend over enough to crawl, I'd been doing that more than walking these last 8~10 weeks WITHOUT A DOUBT. Our house is a 5/3½ ranch with a full finished basement. There are MONTHS when I don't go downstairs. It's what, 15 steps, and those steps are more than I can do more often than not. Now *crawling up* those stairs????? I've done that more than I've walked up them in the almost 10 years we've lived here.
Oh, on the morphine. I take 2 muscle relaxers, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, (Xanax used to, but did get a bottle last month), 50mg Morphine ER that I have all but refused to take through the years. Same thing with the Duragesic/Fentanyl patches. Both of those they gave my Mother when she was dying from cancer. I didn't want ANYTHING you give someone when they are dying. Surely I'm not dying.... not yet anyhow? So anyhow, I'd count out what I took, and my average in 2012 was .4 a day. Plus there was the fentanyl (both 50mcg and 75mcg from 2009 foward) that I also didn't want to use. Seems better to do the short acting, than KEEP it in your system 24/7. That sort of thinking stopped me from taking the long acting stuff whenever possible. Managed to keep the average at under .5 a day until last August then it started creeping up. Problem is, you end up taking 1 a day, then you end up taking 2 (just like the doctor ordered). Doesn't mean you have to like it! And this boy DOESN'T LIKE IT!
However, not liking it, and realizing you'll do whatever it takes to survive sometimes puts you at odds with yourself. Although no matter how many, how often, or what time of day, I've never had a problem just stopping. Lord wiling.... we get through this one and we can throw most all of them away.
Not being delusional because I still have trouble in two other places, two that ARE NOT going to be fixed, probably never. Although about now, they could do lumbar and yet another cervical surgery on my neck and just fix them both. I think I should get a discount getting both done at the same time!
@ShaunD
In the very early days, back in 2002, I did some sort of decompression. If I remember it right they called it Vax-D. You had a tight back brace sort of thing strapped around you and you laid down, face down on a table. The had you hold on to handle bars at the top and the brace was hooked to a winch below your feet. (Many times I couldn't hold on to the top because of my thoracic spine problems so they'd run a strap under both arms, across my back and up to the handle bars.) It'd pull on you for 15 seconds hard, up to 60 pounds of pressure, then relax to about 10 pounds of pressure for 15 seconds. So each one was a 30 second cycle. They'd do 30 on, then 30 off until you had 15 minutes on the table. (The table would also split beneath you when it was pulling.)
Afterwards they'd hook you up to a TENS unit/muscle stimulator underneath a big stack of moist heat packs for another 15 minutes.
It gave some relief, but only after I had been going 5 days a week for over a month. Then I was going 3 days a week for 3 more months, then 2 then 1.
Would it work now? Just don't know, but I'd try it!
I also have two types of inversion devices. The typical hook your ankles and lean back till you're upside down. Then I have one that's like a saw horse where you walk up to it and place your pelvis against a pad with a 1" solid bar that goes between your legs to large pads behind both thighs right below your rear end. Then you lean forward and you flip over in an inverted seated position with all your weight basically on the front of your thighs. This one tends to straighten out the curvature of your lower spine and used to give me decent relief, but that was even before the decompression therapy and the ankle grabbing teeter totter type unit. IMHO the teeter totter is easier and safer. NEITHER of those would work now AT ALL!
@HateSwirls
Kevin my friend, what can I say. I feel we've shared a kinship, hopefully once we get the two of us moving around like we're supposed to, we'll be able to take you up on enjoying a pot of those sweet crawfish y'all do so good down there. I look forward to that more than you know brother!
rops:@dougsrt
Doug, knowing your wife is pain free after a triple fusion gives me hope! I can use that about now, BOY CAN I USE THAT ABOUT NOW!
@radarryan
So you remember the "Dreaded black Porsche"?
Funny how that thread went away don't you think? I never mentioned who that (other guy) OG was as it didn't matter, what happened that day and what I was talking about was ME and nothing else. But I was told that he told everyone who he was, that he was mad enough to consider litigation (had his name been mentioned, but mentioned his name anyhow) which was HIS FIRST THREAD here on AGO, then followed that up saying he wasn't a "flamer". :dunno: I didn't have a chance, nor would I have replied to such attacks. The facts are what they are, (and I still have the Wal-Mart receipt to show for not getting paid for supplies that were not provided). As for a second thread, there wasn't one, up until a couple of weeks ago and there was some communication, openly in the forum of course, (only because I had mentioned my nephew come to find out, had worked with him before I did) then again... a rather public attack made at me on that one too. I didn't reply to that one either, as they tend to come at odd times. But funny enough, that thread closed, was re-edited removing quite a few posts, then re-opened. Can we say DRAMA-RAMA? But look at the pretty pictures. Oh my.@FUNX725
Bob, Psalm 6:2 hit it on the head my friend. Surely my bones have been vexed. But moreover, Psalm 6:3 comes close to where I'm at about now: (From the NIV version, Deb's in parallel NKJ and NIV)
My soul is in deep anguish.
How long, Lord, how long?
Or NKJ
My soul is also sore vexed:
but thou, O Lord, how long?
@Dr Pain
Claude,
You brother, have been reading my mind! It's getting a bit tired in here.
@mikelambert
Mike, I've seen those contraptions. My regular doctor had one on the counter last summer. I couldn't BELIEVE they would put something so mid-evil inside of a living human being. Oh Lord help me!
@cmanningjr
After 2, is there true relief? Please tell me there is.
Everyone I've talked to, or talked about has said they end up going back later and getting the one above it done. My sweet Lord!
@BobbyG
Really good to hear from you sir. You were one of the very first to welcome me here. Your presence has been missed more than you know. Thank you so much for your prayers.
@ShaunD
No sir, no "acu" of any type. But at this point, I can't imagine anything that'd make it hurt worse. Hopefully Tuesday we'll formulate a plan of attack and it'll be SWIFT. Just as long as it works.
So anyhow.... enough of my stories. Being as the only way I could do all this tonight was run a darned cable from the family room all the way to the bedroom, I better get it unplugged and out of the way before my wife gets up in the morning and trips over it.
Today is the FIRST DAY this week I've been able to walk out into the garage. Not exactly progress, probably more related to the added pain meds than anything.
But I really am going to need the wife this weekend something fierce! We have a Camry Hybrid, (black single stage of course) wanting a coating. I cannot turn it down, but I can't do the detailing either. We'll put the 'boy' to work doing wheels and stick the GG6 in his hands to do the bottom end. Then.... "Car-momma" got herself a brand new Rupes Duetto Kit today!
YES you heard that right, I broke down and got her a new buffer. She sorta' likes doing it. Well not like WE like doing it, but she will come around. To see her get that look in her eyes doing the Jag a couple of weeks ago you could tell. You could see it, her focus changed, the way she held the tool changed, and the quality of her work went from good, to great. (Gotta' get a handle on that.... you know how we tend to get carried away, thinking EVERYONE needs a total paint correction!!!!!!!) Well she kept going back till I had to unplug the thing, I kid you not.
c7424:So I figured if she liked he GG6 that much that she'd LOVE the Duetto. Props to Nick for helping me out with that one. rops:So the plan is to get this car here Friday afternoon and have till Sunday afternoon. What takes me 10 hours will take her and 'the boy' more for sure, but at least I can sit and watch. Hopefully, once they get it all washed, IronX'd, and clayed/Nanoskinned I can do the roof and outer edges of the hood, and all the trunk. Long as I don't have to bend over.
Hey, at least she didn't go bonkers on me!
She actually liked the lil' Duetto. She's played with it a bit, was thinking the added stroke was going to help, and even commented on it being smoother. That's a win win in Cardaddy's world.Prayers are helping guys, I'll take little steps any day, any day at all. I'll pray all day for anyone that wants and needs it. But I will NOT pray for myself. I'll ask for strength and understanding, but not healing. Figure whatever cross I have to bear the good Lord wanted me to. There is a reason, I may not know the why, but as long as I believe I can overcome the how. That's why I asked you all for your help and believing in prayer can make us whole.
This is why I do not pray for my OWN healing as HE will restore us and make us strong:
1 Peter 5:10
And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
Again, thank you all,
Tony & Deb