Been very impressed with Opti-Coat so far!

RaskyR1 said:
Very similar to Opti-Seal.

Just do one panel at a time and give it a good buff once it stats to flash so that you don't end up with any blotchy areas. I think I only had to wait about 30 seconds before buffing it with a towel but it may very with your climate. Take your time and really think out a plan of attack before you start going at it....for instance, when applying wax you can pretty much start and end where you want. I normally start on the hood and go around the car and I'll apply wax to half the roof and I'll do the other half when I get over to the other side. With Opti-Coat you would want to do the whole roof before moving on to other panels to avoid the risk of clouding, which I'm told can happen if you go back over an area that has already cured (approximately 30 min I believe).

Matt can probably give you some tips too as well as David Fermani as he has used it on several cars now.

Let me know what you think of it too...I'm about to order up some more for the wife's car. :)
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thanks .... very light coating correct and the entire syringe would likely do several cars ??
 
Dubbin1 said:
It is a long lasting coating made by Optimum that is not available to the general public.
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OK, then if not available then how does one acquire this magical product? :hungry:
 
Dubbin1 said:
Are you saying to do the whole roof then buff off?
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Well I would break in down into sections, buffing each one before moving on to the next. I was basically just saying don't do half the roof first and wait to do the other half later after you've applied it to most of the car....do one entire panel at a time.

My application went as follows:
Roof, trunk, hood, all the side panels, bumper covers, head/tail lights, trim and glass, and then wheels. :)
 
I've used it on the wife's van and it's been on about a month now. Two things I have noticed so far; All the coated surfaces come clean easier. I notice a difference on how clean the van stays. The bugs wash off with very little effort. No worries of stripping the sealant off when you're removing the bugs.

The side mirrors are a black plastic that have been through a lot of car washes (used to be a rental van) so the plastic would polish up nice but after a week or two they would start to dull out again even with multiple coats of the best sealants. Well they are holding up just fine now. Haven't dulled a bit.

I'm impressed with this stuff as well and plan to add it to my list of services. I'm just not sure how to offer it. 2 year warranty? 3?

It's an expensive up sell and I would rather not have customers coming back wanting re-applications 18 months after I apply it (for free).
 
ArmstrongDetailing said:
I'm impressed with this stuff as well and plan to add it to my list of services. I'm just not sure how to offer it. 2 year warranty? 3?

It's an expensive up sell and I would rather not have customers coming back wanting re-applications 18 months after I apply it (for free).
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Do you give a 2 or 3 month warranty on sealants now? How do you handle that? What if the customer washes the bugs with a Brillo pad or the whole car with Top Job (do they even still make that??)?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Do you give a 2 or 3 month warranty on sealants now? How do you handle that? What if the customer washes the bugs with a Brillo pad or the whole car with Top Job (do they even still make that??)?
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No not technically. I do give a satisfaction guarantee but that's mainly on how the car looks when I'm done not so much guaranteeing durability.

With an expensive up sell, customers are going to want a warranty on durability ( I know I would ). Most of the other "never wax again" products dealers sell come with warranties. In most cases the warranties are not backed up because there are so many things that void them and even if they do have to re-apply they don't care too much because they over charged so much to begin with.
 
Yeah, but how does your customer define durability? What would be their basis for demanding you reapply? Those dealer jobs you mention, I think basically they are guaranteeing you won't need a repaint. I think your best bet is to upsell it to existing customers who trust you, and tell them it will last a LOT longer than what you usually put on, 5 or 6 times as long, but don't give them any hard warranty that would require you to re-do it for free.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the dealer "forever" products are warranteed to keep your paint from falling off the car, which is pretty black and white--what would you intend to warranty, that the paint would stay shiny? By whose definition?
 
I don't plan to offer any kind of warranty. No carzy dealership pushing to sell a coating. I'll simply mention it, show them my car, and then I'll supply them with a few links showing the product testing and durability. If they want it, great. If not, no real loss to me.


I honestly think that think if you send them David Fermani's 6 month review it will sell itself.....actually the one year is coming up soon and that should seal the deal even more. ;)


....David should almost get a kickback for each applications sold as a result of his excellent review! :D
 
I think you guys have convinced me. No warranty for now.

Maybe I will offer a warranty as an up-sell to the opti-coat.:D
 
Gave my car a bath today and decided to take a quick shot of how well Opti-Coat works with the "sheeting method".

It was hard holding my phone and the hose at the same time but you should get the idea. :)

When I can use both hand for this method I'm able to get the car virtually free of all water droplets and only some light blotting of a towel is needed to dry any that may remain...or leaf blower if your using a CR system.

Cheers,
Rasky

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9l1XaUEEjA]YouTube - More Opti-Coat fun[/video]
 
It this going to be sold by new car dealer as paint protection package - "never have to wax again" for a low low price of $1995? "It will only add few dollars to your payment"! "You really need this to protect the finish of your $40K car!" "Warranted as long as you own your car" "Just bring it in every year for inspection for a low low price of $395 to keep the warranty active".

Anything else that I missed? :-)

- Vikas
 
sontakke said:
It this going to be sold by new car dealer as paint protection package - "never have to wax again" for a low low price of $1995? "It will only add few dollars to your payment"! "You really need this to protect the finish of your $40K car!" "Warranted as long as you own your car" "Just bring it in every year for inspection for a low low price of $395 to keep the warranty active".

Anything else that I missed? :-)

- Vikas
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I think you missed quite a bit actually. ;)

I'd suggest reading David's review if you haven't already. The 1 year review is coming up soon and from what he told me it sounds like it's still holding up like the day it was applied. :props:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...imum-opti-coating-durability-test-review.html

Having worked at a shop in the past they applied those bogus paint sealant protection packages the dealer offers, I can assure you Opti-Coat is nothing like them.

It gets applied after the proper paint prep and no "booster" applications are required in the future.

As far as I know this is only offered to professional detailers and I've not heard anything about it being offered to new car dealers....unless of course they team up with a pro detailer.


Rasky
 
Didn't somebody else confirm that 25% of the new car sales at his dealership were with the bogus paint protection package? That is a huge market of "unsuspecting suckers"! We will see in future if Optimum resists the temptation to enter that market.

What has really surprised me is that this product is being reviewed and given high marks in a forum where Mike is the authority (and He is the God of detailing (along with the other two Mikes and Kevin and Tod and Rasky ... :-).

Interestingly, he has been mum on this particular product so far. He has been quite vocal about the dealer applied paint protection in the past and is not shy about telling.

You have to agree that Opti-coat does sound more like typical bogus dealer protection package than the honest to goodness multi-step process that detailers go through while putting their hearts and soul in to it.

Fifteen dollar worth of product being applied in fifteen minutes and sold to end user as three hundred dollars "protection" raises lots of flags.

- Vikas
 
sontakke said:
............You have to agree that Opti-coat does sound more like typical bogus dealer protection package ............
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I've read the reviews on this product from a couple people I have the utmost respect for and who have absolutely no reason to mislead. They have a long history of never intentionally misleading anybody and quite the opposite sharing their well earned knowledge with us. Therefore at no time have I ever considered this product could be anything like the phony car dealer type stuff.

When Dr. G was explaining this it didn't sound anything like that either. It's not a sealant. It's a coating.
 
That is excellent sheeting in the second video Rasky! Though I thought you were both out in a thunder storm and out on a sunny day at the same time when the video started. :confused: Just the music LOL
 
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