Beginner Polisher

the PC7424XP (not much of an improvement over the old one) has had it's problems too (few have broken the shaft off) just like any of the other DA's and given the choices there is now as opposed to when the original PC7424 came out, i would easily opt for the GG6 or G110v2 instead...
 
Mike P has discussed the pros and cons of the GG and PCXP several times. Mike feels the PCXP has a higher build quality based on the returns of the GG they see at AG. OTOH, Mike notes that while both will get the job done, the GG has a bit more power than the PCXP. So, pick your poison. Which do you prefer - build quality or a little more power.

As far as pads, I prefer the LC flat pads. But that's just me. Some like the HT and the CCS just as much as I like the flat. They're all pretty good quality so, again, it comes down to a personal preference.

I did buy my pads just before Meg's released their DA Microfiber System. Now that several guys have shown you can switch out the last step finishing wax for 205 or another polish, when it comes time to replace my pads I'll certainly give them a try. Reportedly much faster and easier to use, and a better finish than foam pads. The pics in the posts certainly show that.
 
Had no clue PC was a sub brand of Black and Decker!! Learning something new everyday.
 
I have a Porter Cable 7424 original release. I've been using it for about 8 years or so without incident and it's right at home with the 5 1/2" diameter pads.

While I now use this polisher mainly for applying sealants and waxes, it's still a nice machine for paint correction with both 5 1/2" and 4" pads.

I also have a Flex 3401 and there's little comparison regarding power and efficiency. I use it primarily for paint correction and with its forced rotation I can concentrate on the amount of pressure I apply, not worrying about pad rotation because that's a given.

I think you'd find the Porter Cable 7424xp a great polisher that will fill your needs for years to come at a great price.

Porter Cable 7424xp




 
Cool thanks for all the help guys and then one last thing
whats all the hub bub about the new MF pads? Likes megs DA system and such, i wasnt even gonna get any MF pads, but seems like everyone is loving them
 
Dtx oreo said:
Cool thanks for all the help guys and then one last thing
whats all the hub bub about the new MF pads? Likes megs DA system and such, i wasnt even gonna get any MF pads, but seems like everyone is loving them
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Check the reviews in the review forum, it should answer all of your questions.
 
im gonna grab the pc i think

anyone gotten any of the "starter kits" and liked EVERYTHING that came with it
or does anyone think any of the starter kits are superior over another
or should i get just the pc, and buy everything else separately?

Thanks for all the help guys,
everyone here is the best
 
Dtx oreo said:
im gonna grab the pc i think

anyone gotten any of the "starter kits" and liked EVERYTHING that came with it
or does anyone think any of the starter kits are superior over another
or should i get just the pc, and buy everything else separately?

Thanks for all the help guys,
everyone here is the best
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The PC will serve you well. My original is going on about 11 or 12 years now. I use it for 4 in pads (and 3in MF DA pads).

If you are correcting original factory clear, the MF DA pads are fantastic.

I have not reviewed the kits lately. Last I looked they all came with 6.5 in pads. I would build your own kit with 5.5 in pads if that is the case. You might even try calling AG and asking if they will sub 5,5 in pads for the kit you like.
 
5.4 Shelby said:
The PC will serve you well. My original is going on about 11 or 12 years now. I use it for 4 in pads (and 3in MF DA pads).

If you are correcting original factory clear, the MF DA pads are fantastic.

I have not reviewed the kits lately. Last I looked they all came with 6.5 in pads. I would build your own kit with 5.5 in pads if that is the case. You might even try calling AG and asking if they will sub 5,5 in pads for the kit you like.
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That's a good idea, and my car is factory paint with little to no clear coat tho, whatcha think foam, mf, or just not at all because of the cc?

And I'll be doing more than mine but of course mines most important :P
 
Dubbin1 said:
The PC is the most reliable, the GG has a record of breaking, no comment on the Megs and the Flex is not really worth the extra money. All 4 will give you the same end results.
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People have reported the center/spindle area breaking after one year of use on their PC7424XP also but it is the better built out of the two (GG6 vs XP).

No comment on the G110v2 since I don't own it but seems like the owners really like it (IE Charlie forum handle Shiny Lil Detlr). But I do hear the G110v2 is made from the Chinese manufacture that makes the GG6 so...

You'll be happy with anyone of them you purchase but I suggest you get the longer power cord if that option is available.
 
Dtx oreo said:
That's a good idea, and my car is factory paint with little to no clear coat tho, whatcha think foam, mf, or just not at all because of the cc?

And I'll be doing more than mine but of course mines most important :P
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Honestly, I would get both (and plenty of them). If you have to decide, go with the foam as they are more versatile (Can be used on non clear and repaints). When you can, however, give the DA MFs a try. I love the system. I have done both of my Mustangs with it. It is a joy to work with, easy to learn and gives great results.
 
Dtx oreo said:
menz u think? i was looking at wolfgang and xmt...
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Menz is very very good. So are the Meg's twins, but M105 can sometimes be a real pain in the... neck (especially for beginners). I, however, liked the challenge and fiddled with it until I figured it out.
 
so menz over wolfgang? and is that just for the polish u think?
 
Reportedly, wolfgang (wg) and menz polishes are one in the same. Meaning the swirl remover is equivalent to SIP, and the glaze is similar to super finish. Menz/WG polishes use diminishing abrasives tech. The abrasives need to be fully broken down to achieve the best results. Meg's twins use non-diminishing abrasives. You work them for as long as you want, but you must stop before the lubricating oils dry. Each should have a place in your arsenal if you wish to be fully prepared for any paint you may come across.
 
kronos said:
Reportedly, wolfgang (wg) and menz polishes are one in the same. Meaning the swirl remover is equivalent to SIP, and the glaze is similar to super finish. Menz/WG polishes use diminishing abrasives tech. The abrasives need to be fully broken down to achieve the best results. Meg's twins use non-diminishing abrasives. You work them for as long as you want, but you must stop before the lubricating oils dry. Each should have a place in your arsenal if you wish to be fully prepared for any paint you may come across.
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Which would be better for a beginner polisher?

And then which is a better universal polish?

Thanks for the info tho!
 
One thing to keep in mind with the Griots 6" D/A is that is does have a lifetime warranty.
So even if you do have a problem at some point with any of the above mentioned machines the Griot's is the only one that will be covered for an extended period of time.
 
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