"Best" (Highest Lubricity, Shine, Cleaning) Rinseless Wash?

all products require water, so therefore none of them are waterless....you also forgot about duragloss rinseless wash, imo this is the best looks wise that i have tried, ive tried onr v2 last touch(did not like), dp rinseless, dp waterless, and meguiars rinsefree express wash. the best one used for a QD/waterless wash is the duragloss rinseless due to the addition of the aqua wax, but with a rinseless a lot of it is personal preference. they all do a fantastic job, just read reviews.
 
Aside from my regular car wash, what would be a good idea to ADD to the solution as I wash my car so it dries spotless and streak-free with perhaps a nice sheen and boost on paint shimmer from wax at the same time? (I'll still use a spray detailer afterward since drips occur, and I'll have to get the door jams anyway, but I am obsessed with using the best methods, no matter how costly or how many products, on my dream car)
 
Bigbull2984 said:
Hey man, just wanted to toss my opinion in and what I usually do. In a 32oz bottle I mix 1.5 oz of ONR with distilled water, then I take couple of quarts on water in bucket with one oz or so of onr. I use about 8 or so small 6x12 microfiber towels.

The Method I found the most efficient for me.

Spray the panel down with the spray bottle mixure. Take one of my small microfibers dip it in my bucket, clean the panel and wipe and shine with a cobra mf. I DO NOT put the small MF back in the bucket, I just use a new one so water does not get dirty.

What is needed is
1 gallon of distilled water
1 32 oz spray bottle
2.5 oz of onr
6 to 10 small MF towels
2 Cobra plush MF
1 plastic bowl



I just tried the BF rinseless with same method and wow it has alot more lube....
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Great post, I really read it in detail, and appreciated it! The insight you guys offer is excellent. I apply it every single time I'm able to spend some time with my car!

opie_7afe said:
all products require water, so therefore none of them are waterless....you also forgot about duragloss rinseless wash, imo this is the best looks wise that i have tried, ive tried onr v2 last touch(did not like), dp rinseless, dp waterless, and meguiars rinsefree express wash. the best one used for a QD/waterless wash is the duragloss rinseless due to the addition of the aqua wax, but with a rinseless a lot of it is personal preference. they all do a fantastic job, just read reviews.
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Good point about nothing being 'waterless.' I did come to the realization that items advertised at waterless are the highest lubricity though, since they have to account for the additional protection needed without a soaking wet MF or mitt dipped in a bucket, so I'm going to stick with those.

I'm really leaning toward the following (I think any/all of the three below can be added to my wash-bucket when I'm doing a traditional full wash as well to help with gloss, water conditioning to avoid spotting while drying, as well as paint protection with increased lubricity - right?):
1. Black Fire Wet Diamond Waterless Wash Concentrate
2. Duragloss Rinseless with Aquawax
3. Ultima Waterless-Wash+ Super Concentrate (I've been using the pre-made version of this for a year now, I spray it on the car as I dry)
 
Last Touch is very good. It is a quick detailer/waterless wash.
 
I use ibiz waterless wash and wax. It has the protection of 6 months and has great sine. If you want something thats also good get the car wash which is 90 percent suds free for less waterspotting
 
Shawn T. said:
Last Touch is very good. It is a quick detailer/waterless wash.
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Meguiar's Last Touch is NOT a waterless wash. Its a great quick detailer but don't use it as a waterless wash unless you want to test out some polishes afterward!
 
Bill1234 said:
I use ibiz waterless wash and wax. It has the protection of 6 months and has great sine. If you want something thats also good get the car wash which is 90 percent suds free for less waterspotting
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Do suds cause water-spotting? I always thought it had something to do with the water, salt deposits or 'hard' water. I remember back in high school years ago I would buy gallons of purified distilled water, and pour them on my car before drying when I was done washing, and it worked great! Now, I just try to add something to my wash solution to 'condition' the water, although I'm still working on what's the best to add.

shoeless89 said:
Meguiar's Last Touch is NOT a waterless wash. Its a great quick detailer but don't use it as a waterless wash unless you want to test out some polishes afterward!
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I'm still confused what Last Touch is all about and what's it's primary purpose is/how it differs from their other Quick Detailer.
 
Dynamic_Detailing said:
Aside from my regular car wash, what would be a good idea to ADD to the solution as I wash my car so it dries spotless and streak-free with perhaps a nice sheen and boost on paint shimmer from wax at the same time? (I'll still use a spray detailer afterward since drips occur, and I'll have to get the door jams anyway, but I am obsessed with using the best methods, no matter how costly or how many products, on my dream car)
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If you are going use a QD afterwards on the paint why not just stick to the most economical(onr/DP on bogo)? If you are doing two steps you will get better results using two different products vs an AIO product. ONR + OCW/DG AW/UQW.

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Looking back into your thread I see you are looking for a waterless wash solution and the most cost effective would be ultima, thought personally, I would not offer waterless washes to 90% of vehicles on the road due to the amount of impeded dirt and grit on the paints.

For adding a product to your normal wash, no dice. Theres nothing out there that will help with spot free rinsing and adding additional gloss. If you want streak free, you will need to use a system like CR spotless.

shoeless89 said:
Meguiar's Last Touch is NOT a waterless wash. Its a great quick detailer but don't use it as a waterless wash unless you want to test out some polishes afterward!
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Might want to look again. Specifically at the Meguiars Australia department. With that being said, Megs LT is easily one of the slickest qd/waterless washes ive used. Try it on your car and apply some tape on it afterwards and see how well it sticks.
 
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Last week I took advantage of the BOGO for the Detailers Pro Series Rinseless Wash & Gloss after seeing recomendations on this forum. Today, for the first time, I washed my car using a rinseless product, and WOW! - I'm sold.

I should preface this by saying that a couple of weeks ago I bucket-washed my car and sealed with Menzerna Power Lock. Then, over the last couple of weeks I used Griot's Spray On Car Wash washless wash a couple of times (first time I did a washless wash also). It looked good after the Power Lock, and then it also looked good after the Griot's washless wash (maybe slightly hazy). But today, after the DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss, I couldn't believe how shiny my car was.

I have a 2011 Subaru Outback, caramel bronze pearl color or whatever it's called, and since the car is only a little over a year old the paint is still in pretty good shape. I didn't take any pics, but I think it shined better today than the day I brought it home. Like I said, this was my first experience with DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss and as well as my first experience with any rinseless wash, so I don't know if it was the gloss agents in the DP Rinseless or a combination of the products mentioned above that were used over the last couple of weeks, but the shine was almost blinding. It only took about 20-25 minutes to rinseless wash (fast for me to wash a car, taking my time since it was my first time and wanted to be careful) so that part of it was great also.

Thanks to all of the people that recomended this product. Most of my washes will now be rinseless.
 
My replies will be below in bold blue, thanks so much as always guys! :)

Lasthope05 said:
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Looking back into your thread I see you are looking for a waterless wash solution and the most cost effective would be ultima, thought personally, I would not offer waterless washes to 90% of vehicles on the road due to the amount of impeded dirt and grit on the paints.

I won't be washing any dirty cars, only giving my show-car a once-over and quick wipe down after driving it for a few minutes once a week on the weekend's if the weather is nice. I don't like the dust that gathers on it in the garage. So, since I am not truly 'washing it' by any means, I'm just thinking of using a 300-600 gram plush microfiber with something that will offer the best of both gloss and lubricity/protection for what would simply be a 'dusting' of the car.

I was looking for whatever product would be best for this, and assumed that would be a waterless wash, although perhaps I could simply use a quick-detailer, OR, buy a concentrated waterless-wash, and really skimp on the dilution ratios, so it's almost pure for the ultimate slickness? Thoughts?

For adding a product to your normal wash, no dice. Theres nothing out there that will help with spot free rinsing and adding additional gloss. If you want streak free, you will need to use a system like CR spotless.

Bollocks. I thought for sure adding something to my usual wash solution (I use Meg's Tech Wash for now, but will start a new thread asking questions about making a switch soon as my 64oz containers run low) to condition the water making it more 'ph balanced' or neutral without the mineral deposits that can cause water spots, especially in the sun if I'm detailing a car solo and can't get to the whole thing in time before it starts to dry.

I guess I'll just stick with washing it, and then "re-wetting" it, right before walking around the car and liberally/generously spritzing it with something like a no-rinse or a QD (or even a spray wax), and then wiping that baby down with a nice plush at least 300g+ microfiber. Thoughts?

Might want to look again. Specifically at the Meguiars Australia department. With that being said, Megs LT is easily one of the slickest qd/waterless washes ive used. Try it on your car and apply some tape on it afterwards and see how well it sticks.

Believe me, I've read, and re-read, the Last Touch product description, and I just can't make heads or tails of this product's true intended specific use. Slickness is awesome, maybe it serves a purpose being added to a QD or even a waterless wash, for more protection and lubricity along with the cleaning and glossing power of those products?
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dmayer said:
Last week I took advantage of the BOGO for the Detailers Pro Series Rinseless Wash & Gloss after seeing recomendations on this forum. Today, for the first time, I washed my car using a rinseless product, and WOW! - I'm sold.

Have you ever used any of the others to compare it to? I am really only interested in a waterless wash, because it's a more 'aggressive' product, meaning since it's intended to be used to clean a car minus the bucket, it HAS to be more lubricated and concentrated by its very nature. Like I said above, I'll only be using the WW specifically for wiping my car down while it's in the garage and dust accumulates on it. I'm very particular, and I also love to keep it sparkling clean, it's "my gardening" as I always tell friends. I keep a nice wax on it, whether spray, sealant, or hand applied carnuaba, so I just like to keep it clean and free from any contaminants while it sits there through the week/rainy weather just waiting to be driven!
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Thanks for the ongoing advice, suggestions, and help guys. One thing I like about this thread is that it has a lot of very useful information over and above the original question, which is awesome in my opinion, so as people search the forum and join they can seek out some experienced insight.
 
I have not used other rinseless wash products but the DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss has gotten some very good reviews. And as far as waterless wash products I have only used Griot's Spray On Wash. Now I know that the rinseless uses water where the waterless does not, but to me it seems much, much safer to do the rinseless wash over the waterless wash. I used 1-1/2 ounces of the DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss with 3 gallons of water and had a second bucket of water only to rinse the wash mitt, and the lubricity was amazing as I slowly moved the wash mitt across the paint! I don't see how a spray on waterless product could do as safe of a job unless you sprayed on a LOT of it. Just remember: I have extremely limited experience. Other people here know much more than me.
I have bought a bottle (and just received it last week) of Ultima Waterless Wash Plus Concentrate which has gotten very good reviews here but have not used it yet. When the Griot's runs out I will mix some of it up and try using that, but I still have a couple of washes left in the Griot's bottle. The Griot's Spray On Wash may be very good (have not used another to compare), and I may have used too little, but it just seemed so much nicer and smoother when I used the rinseless with a wet wash mitt as opposed to the waterless with a sprayed damp microfiber towel.
 
Bigbull2984 said:
Hey man, just wanted to toss my opinion in and what I usually do. In a 32oz bottle I mix 1.5 oz of ONR with distilled water, then I take couple of quarts on water in bucket with one oz or so of onr.

I use about 8 or so small 6x12 microfiber towels.

The Method I found the most efficient for me.

Spray the panel down with the spray bottle mixure. Take one of my small microfibers dip it in my bucket, clean the panel and wipe and shine with a cobra mf. I DO NOT put the small MF back in the bucket, I just use a new one so water does not get dirty.

What is needed is
1 gallon of distilled water
1 32 oz spray bottle
2.5 oz of onr
6 to 10 small MF towels
2 Cobra plush MF
1 plastic bowl ...
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BigBull,

What 6X12 MF towels are you using? Do these have a heavy nap?

Louis
 
Just an add-on:

WHAT IS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WASH AVAILABLE? Something that will cut all tar, iron, bugs, and even wax?
 
Us BF Waterless wash for your quicky preps, I use it on my Stang. For more in depth "washes" I use the BF Rinseless wash. I love the shine after using either. If you want to amp up the gloss afterward, use the BF Polyseal to amp up the shine. Good Stuff!
 
Dynamic_Detailing said:
Just an add-on:

WHAT IS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WASH AVAILABLE? Something that will cut all tar, iron, bugs, and even wax?
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I don't think that exists... :dblthumb2:
Only a combination of products will take care of all those issues!
 
Yeah, Griot's product is a WATERLESS wash, not rinseless. Now as far as rinseless washes go, well, I've tried/used 4 of them so far:

-ONR
-BlackFire
-DG
-DP

I bought a gallon of ONR and loved it, it was my first rinseless wash, great product for sure and makes a great QD too. I then bought a gallon of DP to try that out when I was out of ONR, not that I didn't like ONR, just wanted to try something new and IMO the DP works just as well, makes great QD but one thing I notice about the DP compared to the ONR v2 that I used was the fact that the DP was "stickier" on the paint, so if I had to pick one over the other, I'd go with DP there. I got a sample of BF and it too was sticky on the paint, I like that but the smell isn't as good but that doesn't really matter to me, just throwing it out there and is a bit more expensive by the gallon, its like $50.00 IIRC. Finally there's the DG product, smells great, very sticky and its the one I'll be buying in the gallon size once I'm out of rinseless wash, well, I'll have it before hand, don't ever wanna be w/o my rinseless:props:
 
On the rinseless side, I've used both BF and ONR and can't really tell the difference, other than smell. I like the BF over ONR on that note. I've mixed both into QD strength. Over all I think I would pick the BF as the overall winner. But that is just my $.02 worth.
 
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