Best Pads for Large Throw Polishers?

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Hello everyone, this is my first post on this forum so I am not very familiar with how everything works just yet. I did a search but found very little. To my question though. What are the best pads for a large throw DA polisher? I have the torq22d that I have been using since it came out and just ordered a rupes 15. I am currently using Meguiars MF cutting pads to compound and hex logic foam pads to finish. I don't really have a preference as far as MF or foam I just want something that cuts well, efficiently, and a good finishing pad as I apply coatings quite a bit. I would also like to get your guys' imput on some good compounds and polishes. Saving time is huge for me as I also go to school full time.
 
Microfiber always cuts Better then foam.

However if your ever doing a one step MF cutting pads leave micro marring.

Good pads for long throw orbitals are usually ones that have holes in them to help for cooling. As the long throws create alot of heat and stress on the pad.

Boss pads
Rupes pads
Lake country thin pro pads
Meguiar's foam discs
Buff and shine long throw pads

All will work well with your long throws.

If your a fan of coatings I highly suggest car pro essence as it's a primer for coatings, and you don't need to wipe down with eraser or iPa , just go to coating.

If your doing multi step corrections stick with microfiber, for your cutting, but always test if you can get away with foam first.
 
Joe@NextLevelDetail said:
Microfiber always cuts Better then foam.

However if your ever doing a one step MF cutting pads leave micro marring.

Good pads for long throw orbitals are usually ones that have holes in them to help for cooling. As the long throws create alot of heat and stress on the pad.

Boss pads
Rupes pads
Lake country thin pro pads
Meguiar's foam discs
Buff and shine long throw pads

All will work well with your long throws.

If your a fan of coatings I highly suggest car pro essence as it's a primer for coatings, and you don't need to wipe down with eraser or iPa , just go to coating.

If your doing multi step corrections stick with microfiber, for your cutting, but always test if you can get away with foam first.
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Thanks Joe! Do you recommend certain compounds/polish?
 
blakemiller17 said:
Thanks Joe! Do you recommend certain compounds/polish?
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I agree with Joe on his pad recommendations

As for compounds and polish check out the new McKee37 line and the Griots B.O.S.S. creams. Both have long work time and the compounds have a nice finish
 
StephenK said:
I agree with Joe on his pad recommendations

As for compounds and polish check out the new McKee37 line and the Griots B.O.S.S. creams. Both have long work time and the compounds have a nice finish
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What Stephen said.

Both products are user friendly so easy a caveman can do it!

If you order all 4 of the Boss creams you can pretty much tackle anything.

The McKee's 37 trio of polishes are.AWESOME.

I would recommend those 2 lines right now.

They work for a long time don't dry up and dust, cut and finish amazing.
 
Joe@NextLevelDetail said:
What Stephen said.

Both products are user friendly so easy a caveman can do it!

If you order all 4 of the Boss creams you can pretty much tackle anything.

The McKee's 37 trio of polishes are.AWESOME.

I would recommend those 2 lines right now.

They work for a long time don't dry up and dust, cut and finish amazing.
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Awesome, Thanks. since I am getting the rupes how well are their pads? I've seen several good reviews as well as several bad
 
blakemiller17 said:
Awesome, Thanks. since I am getting the rupes how well are their pads? I've seen several good reviews as well as several bad
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Yellow pad is good. The rest are OK.

BTW, you can get away with a 1-step using MF pads(depending on paint color).
 
Stick with the Rupes as a system. The pads, compounds and polishes all work great together. I also us the the MF cutting and finishing with the Rupes
 
I have a Rupes markii 21 and I currently use the Rupes system. The blue Rupes pad with the Rupes zephyr gloss coarse gel compound cuts really fast. I enjoy the Rupes entire system including the Rupes UHS system. Some of my other options are lake country thin pro, hydrotech and microfiber pads with meguiars 101 and 205
 
refreshauto said:
Stick with the Rupes as a system. The pads, compounds and polishes all work great together. I also us the the MF cutting and finishing with the Rupes
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I agree. All the components together are pretty potent at their respective tasks.

My go to combo on the Rupes is to cut with the blue microfiber / Zephir, and finish with yellow foam / Keramik.

The yellow foam pad is pretty versatile. I believe you can use any of their polishes on it and get great results.
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
Yellow pad is good. The rest are OK.
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I completely 100% disagree. RUPES pads are top quality in all aspects.


WRAPT C5Z06 said:
BTW, you can get away with a 1-step using MF pads(depending on paint color).
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I completely 100% disagree. I don't think color has anything to do with it. Paint hardness "yes". Color? No.

Defects show up to your eyes easier on darker colors like micro-marring which is the most common problem when using microfiber pads. Light colors get micro-marred too but it's harder to see it with your eyes but that doesn't mean it's not there.

We tried using microfiber pads on the Ferdinand Magellan Railcar with Joe Fernandez and the microfiber pads micro-marred the hell out of the paint.


:dunno:
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I completely 100% disagree. I don't think color has anything to do with it. Paint hardness "yes". Color? No.

Defects show up to your eyes easier on darker colors like micro-marring which is the most common problem when using microfiber pads. Light colors get micro-marred too but it's harder to see it with your eyes but that doesn't mean it's not there.

We tried using microfiber pads on the Ferdinand Magellan Railcar with Joe Fernandez and the microfiber pads micro-marred the hell out of the paint.


:dunno:
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I didn't say micro marring isn't there, but if you can't see it, who cares? When I say paint color, I was referring to light metallics. The rail car was a dark color, therefore, marring was much more noticeable. I guarantee, if the railcar was a light metallic, and you couldn't SEE micro marring, you would have used MF pads.
 
Well I ended up buying the rupes "system" and lake country thinpro's should be here Friday so I will post how I like them. Thanks guys
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
I didn't say micro marring isn't there, but if you can't see it, who cares? When I say paint color, I was referring to light metallics. The rail car was a dark color, therefore, marring was much more noticeable. I guarantee, if the railcar was a light metallic, and you couldn't SEE micro marring, you would have used MF pads.
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I care about the paint. I have a passion about polishing the paint. I would try my best to polish the paint. The color does not matter what matters is the quality of work. Their is no easy way.

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All the pads made for big throw work great. Rupes, Meg thin disc, BnS , and LC. The Rupe pads are still my favorite. The Rupes yellow pad just works so well with so many compounds and polishes. It's the most versatile pad I've used. Has plenty of bite, finishes like the Rupes white, and is crazy durable.
 
so im considering at long throw, looking at the BOSS 21 since I still love my GG6 and that warranty is just great, I really like using MF pads and currently use the BOSS MF pads on my GG6 with the vented backing plate., with the micro marring issue would you think its safe to use a compound with a MF pad and then use a polish pad with essence to finish it off and then coat?
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
Yellow pad is good. The rest are OK.

BTW, you can get away with a 1-step using MF pads(depending on paint color).
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People talk about being able to One step the rupes yellow with something like sonax perfect finish is there an equivalent for the buff and shine to the urotec to the yellow rupes?
 
Mike Phillips said:
I completely 100% disagree. RUPES pads are top quality in all aspects.




I completely 100% disagree. I don't think color has anything to do with it. Paint hardness "yes". Color? No.

Defects show up to your eyes easier on darker colors like micro-marring which is the most common problem when using microfiber pads. Light colors get micro-marred too but it's harder to see it with your eyes but that doesn't mean it's not there.

We tried using microfiber pads on the Ferdinand Magellan Railcar with Joe Fernandez and the microfiber pads micro-marred the hell out of the paint.


:dunno:
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All rupes pads work well with the Rupes system, but there are some durability issues IME, especially with the green & blue foam.

Unlike the B&S uro-tec maroon pads which are extremely durable when used with both solvent based and water based compounds, the rupes green pads in particular have a higher tendency to prematurely degrade and according to rupes their foam pads are not meant to be used with solvent based compounds and polishes.

I think this is important to note, because if someone already has compounds like M101, FG400, or SHC300 and they are trying to find the best foam pads for their Rupes machine, Rupes green & blue foam probably wouldn't be the best option for them. They would likely have better luck with LC HDO Foam pads or B&S uro-tecs.

Also, personally I will often sell 1-step corrections on light color vehicles based on my customers budget. I often find that using microfiber cutting pads provides the most correction with such light haze/micro-marring that I can barely see it and it looks virtually perfect to my customers. Certainly, there are many times where microfiber cutting pads would leave too much micro-marring and foam is the the better option BUT for me it's a case by case scenario. I am all about giving my customer the best bang for their buck possible and often times that means using a MF cutting pad and a compound like Jescar Correction compound or Boss Fast Correcting Cream then immediately following that up with with the LSP (usually Powerlock+).

Yes, there is micro-marring that I can see under 5000k LED lighting but if my customer see's perfection.....

You are right that paint color has nothing to do with the amount of micro-marring left behind but I think what Mark is alluding to when he says "you can get away with a 1-step w/ MF pads depending on paint color" he's coming from the perspective of a professional detailer and there are certainly situations where a 1-step w/ a MF cutting pad is completely appropriate.
 
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