best rinseless wash for winter?

hmmmm.... so what MFs does everyone use for WWs? Anyone use affordable all-purpose towels? The fancy 350-400gsm WW towels? Edgeless polishing or wax removal towels?

Something I didn’t mention?
 
I use the creature edgeless from rag company for frothe (waterless) and n-914 rinseless.


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hmmmm.... so what MFs does everyone use for WWs? Anyone use affordable all-purpose towels? The fancy 350-400gsm WW towels? Edgeless polishing or wax removal towels?

Something I didn’t mention?
Always plush, lifeless ones and I have anything from ones I bought from Ebay to Luxury microfiber but need to try some Eagle edgeless from The Rag Company for sure.

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I use the creature edgeless from rag company for frothe (waterless) and n-914 rinseless.

Eagle edgeless 350, 500, or something else? These seems to be similar to the 350 gsm WW towels in the Outlet store. I wish they sold them in bulk.
 
I use the Eagle edgeless as well and like them for that purpose.

My favorite WW's are Ultima and Uber. Those two are pretty interchangeable for me. Got a gallon each. Still have over a gallon of the old Meguiar's D114, but don't use it much if any. If my car is pretty clean and I'm going to do a polish is about the only time I use the D114.
 
Griot's Garage Brillant Shine rinseless wash is being used tonight along with...THE AQUA SPONGE! Decided to change it up after watching Aoex Detailing where he's been using the Big Red Sponge.

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Always plush, lifeless ones and I have anything from ones I bought from Ebay to Luxury microfiber but need to try some Eagle edgeless from The Rag Company for sure.

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Eagle edgeless 350, 500, or something else? These seems to be similar to the 350 gsm WW towels in the Outlet store. I wish they sold them in bulk.

The eagle edgeless are more plush and better for drying and polishing plus you get 5 for around 25$. The are 500 gsm usually. For that price I prefer their Everest 800. Use for applying Merlin’s, drying with drying aid or wiping of frothe.

For waterless the creature edgeless I feel are perfect. The are 420gsm edgeless like the eagles. 70/30 and I get 10 for 24$. Dual pile too. Perfect not too plush or too thin. Regardless of price.... my favorite towel.

I’m seriously thinking of buying a case of them. Fly07sti has it right. You can never have to many MF’s. In a case your paying $1.30 for quite possibly the best overall (value/performance) towel ever!


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Griot's Garage Brillant Shine rinseless wash is being used tonight along with...THE AQUA SPONGE! Decided to change it up after watching Aoex Detailing where he's been using the Big Red Sponge.

Funny you mention that - just the other day I was looking at my big red sponge and was thinking about giving it a go with something other than ONR. It’s been out of circulation while I’ve been either doing multi-towel or multi-mitt RW’s.
 
everyone follow the rules. Don’t be angry. And doesn’t ag sell boss foams?

You both make sense. I’ve mentioned ammo here or their but in context to conversation and never been warned.

Big difference from going and posting on a few threads (some really old) of your love of the product. I get it, i love it also. But would you run into a lexus dealership and scream at the top of your lungs how much you love infinities? I think a little respect for the people who run this forum so we can have these discussions is respectable.

Note: I have probably mentioned the “wonder wash” twice as much as gunny tho....


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The eagle edgeless are more plush and better for drying and polishing plus you get 5 for around 25$. The are 500 gsm usually. For that price I prefer their Everest 800. Use for applying Merlin’s, drying with drying aid or wiping of frothe.

For waterless the creature edgeless I feel are perfect. The are 420gsm edgeless like the eagles. 70/30 and I get 10 for 24$. Dual pile too. Perfect not too plush or too thin. Regardless of price.... my favorite towel.

I’m seriously thinking of buying a case of them. Fly07sti has it right. You can never have to many MF’s. In a case your paying $1.30 for quite possibly the best overall (value/performance) towel ever!

I just received 10 Creature and 9 Spectrum (basically Creature but with soft edge). Nice-feeling towels, but I haven't used them for WW yet. One side is more plush than the other - Do you use both sides of the towel, or only the plush side?

I'm still trying to decide if I should also try a 5 pack of 500 Eagle or the 800 Everest you speak of. I will try these first before finalizing that decision.
 
hmmmm.... so what MFs does everyone use for WWs? Anyone use affordable all-purpose towels? The fancy 350-400gsm WW towels? Edgeless polishing or wax removal towels?

Something I didn’t mention?

Griots PFM Terry Weave.
 
I just received 10 Creature and 9 Spectrum (basically Creature but with soft edge). Nice-feeling towels, but I haven't used them for WW yet. One side is more plush than the other - Do you use both sides of the towel, or only the plush side?

I'm still trying to decide if I should also try a 5 pack of 500 Eagle or the 800 Everest you speak of. I will try these first before finalizing that decision.

I use both sides and haven’t seen any ill effects. I use spectrum cuz there dark on lower rocker panels and wheels. Even though stats are same I do not feel as same quality as creature.

Love the Everest 800! Try them both. Maybe edgeless 500 so you can give us a comparison.


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hmmmm.... so what MFs does everyone use for WWs? Anyone use affordable all-purpose towels? The fancy 350-400gsm WW towels? Edgeless polishing or wax removal towels?

Something I didn’t mention?

Costco Kirklands and Griots PFM or 70/30 waffle weaves to dry.

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I love filling up a bucket with a couple gallons water and splash some rinseless into the bucket.

Then I fill up my harbor freight pump sprayer with
The solution. Then I spray my rims nicely. The bucket
Then has a previously used sponge that I have
Only used on rims and wash the rims down.

Then I use some rag in a box paper towels to dry
The rims. A few minutes of back and forth
Driving and hitting brakes dries the rotors and I'm done.
 
I'd avoid rinseless washes in winter. I'd opt for a coin op spray wash if you can't do a bucket wash. Too much gunk on the roads.
 
I'd avoid rinseless washes in winter. I'd opt for a coin op spray wash if you can't do a bucket wash. Too much gunk on the roads.
This is true if it's really caked on but with over saturation of the RW, maybe made a bit more concentrated, you'll be fine. FWIW when I joined AG many yrs ago I used RW exclusively on my 2011 Honda CR-Z without any issues, keep in mind were talking soft, Japanese paint here too.

That said, nothing wrong with hitting the quarter wash and then doing a good quality RW with great pre-treating and plush, edgeless mf towels






....wait, we're talking snow and salt already, damn it

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That said, nothing wrong with hitting the quarter wash and then doing a good quality RW with great pre-treating and plush, edgeless mf towels

My Worx hydroshot does a great job during winter if it’s a warm enough day to give the car a nice pre rinse before I do a rinseless wash.

Honestly these days I really do just prefer using my pressure washer to rinse the car well, and then going right into a rinseless wash. It’s like the best of both worlds.


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For whatever it’s worth, I RW all winter long, probably using more towels to wipe smaller sections. Prior to wiping I heavily saturate the section with RW QD concentration or WW. Let it sit a few minutes (I spray a panel or two ahead so it can dwell while I wipe the current panel). If it dries at all during the dwelling time I just spray again. By the time I get the plush, saturated RW MF to the paint it feels like it’s swimming on top, it’s that wet with all forces combined.

Do a RW often enough (2-3x a week) and there’s really not too much gunk most of the time. Do I come out of winter with a some very minor swirls? Sure. But generally very minor and I’m not sure it’s any worse than traditional washing the same frequency over the same time period.

Note: if the roof isn’t bad I will WW the roof and clean the windows with glass cleaner. This prevents RW solution from hiding in window nooks, etc. Then the act of RW only takes place on the hood and vertical panels below the window where it can be totally soaked but still dry easily without hiding many places.
 
I’ve been going away from rinseless as i feel Blammo Mrothe (can i say real name?) is a superior waterless/rinseless process.

I use a rinseless (griots brilliant shine lately) for pretreat and then foam and wipe panel at a time. Feels way more lubricious than anything out their.

Use Blammo Frydrate er TW ceramic wetwax to dry.

I’m surprised nobodies copied with their own foaming waterless.


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I use a rinseless (griots brilliant shine lately) for pretreat and then foam and wipe panel at a time. Feels way more lubricious than anything out their.

i have a bottle diluted 6:1 and use it around the house as well and it works great. the nice thing is it just cleans and leaves nothing behind. fantastic product!
 
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