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hey guys so i got anothing question. in the past i have always stuck with meguiars gold class paste wax. i am looking to trying some liquid wax or sealant for that matter. (NOT the thin liquid that comes out of a spray bottle i want the stuff that is thicker so you can put on a pad and a DA polisher). as i said i have only used gold class paste so i dont know where to start. i am also hearing alot about SEALANTS. so i dont know if i should try that insted of wax. i am looking to get as glossy finish as possible (very wet look and reflective like a mirror) and i also have to be able to use with a DA machine. hope to hear every ones opinions
 
I cant recommend a specific one since i havent used many...some examples are

1. Menz Powerlock
2. Opti-Seal
3. DP Poli-Sealant
4. Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0
5. Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Sealant
6. Griots Garage Paint Sealant


The list can go on and on. I personally just purchased Opti-Seal (which is a spray sealant) and i plan on topping it with 845. Collinite 845 Insulator Wax is one of the most popular waxes in the detailing world. It goes on very thin and lasts months.
 
You could try Meguiar's Ultimate Wax, which despite its name, is a sealant.

How have you been polishing the paint prior to waxing? Because if you want the glossiest finish possible, you have to have perfectly polished paint.
 
trekkeruss said:
You could try Meguiar's Ultimate Wax, which despite its name, is a sealant.

How have you been polishing the paint prior to waxing? Because if you want the glossiest finish possible, you have to have perfectly polished paint.
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Dont forget the decon stage! (clay, Iron remover)
 
like KyleWrap said, decon stage is important for glossy paint.
polishing is the key for show car finish.
wet look can be achieve from oily wax which in most case, attract dust.
"Best" to me will be products that i feel comfortable using and can always achieve good result

regards
 
pretty much any liquid 'wax' you purchase is going to be primarily based on sealant technology, that is, synthetic protectants rather than the natural carnauba wax you find in paste wax.

If you want something over the counter, megs ultimate is a good choice.

A sealant is going to create more of the glassy look you are after, but the finish is more a function of paint correction/polishing than it is the wax or sealant you use. The glassiest tend to be based on, or contain, acrylics. Klasse, Sonus and werkstatt come to mind as acrylic options. I haven't found anything definitive, but blackfire is also said to have acrylics.

'Best' wax/sealant is far too subjective. Now that you've taken care of the can of worms, please wash the can opener and put it back in the drawer. :D
 
Duragloss topped with Collinite and you've got 20 years of protection, and it will cure acne.

All kidding aside...I started with Klasse, and after having to ban my DD from the road for three days straight and fighting with buffing issues, I switched to duragloss and got more protection than Kasse. Collinite gave me 5 months of protection and so on my truck I decided to combine them...

The look is terrific, but I'm excited to see what kind of protection I'm going to get.

Here comes my coating plug!!!! - I would look in to coatings, I've coated two out of three of my vehicles and I love the coating...makes cleaning so much better! Prior to this winter I'll be coating my truck too.
 
Yet another best thread. There is no best. What's your budget, location, experience level, expectation, maintenance record, type of vehicle, and bottom line need.
 
These do seem to keep springing up. It's that time of year.

The most reflective sealant I've used is Klasse Sealant Glaze. It's not DA friendly in my experience, but it will give you the look your after.
 
Most times what you get are opinions of what fellow forum members enjoy using, when "the best..." anything is asked.

This is ok though, because it gives one a view of what has worked for people, across the board.

In the spirit of participation, I can say that I really like Duragloss 111, Meguiar's NXT 2.0, Ultimate Wax, #20 Polymer Sealant, and #21 Synthetic Sealant.
 
Agree with other about there is no best. There are lots of options available.

These are some that I have used that work well

Meguiar's M21
Meguiar's Ultimate Wax
Detailer's Pro Poli-Coat
Klasse Sealant
Americana Car Care Ameriseal
 
I'm going to insist that a whole bunch of other Waxes and
Sealants are better than the Wax or Sealant that I choose
to use.


That way:
When my choices beats all the others, mano a mano...
I don't have to beat-the-drums to call attention to them.
After all: "Actions speak louder than words!"


Bob
 
I can't tell you what the best is, but here is what I prefer and why I prefer it: Klasse high gloss sealant glaze.

why?
-it is easy to apply, (using the damp MF applicator and small 1 ounce atomizing spray bottle) wipe on/wipe off
-I can add a bit of it to a gallon of whatever QD I use as a drying aid and boost protection whenever I wash
-it is extremely durable considering how easy it is to apply and how little is needed
-I bought a 33 ounce jug of it when I bought my jeep in 2009 and I am nowhere near out of it

The "best" of anything will always be in a state of flux as there are a ton of factors as well as new products being released every year.
 
dbreeze225 said:
hey guys so i got anothing question. in the past i have always stuck with meguiars gold class paste wax. i am looking to trying some liquid wax or sealant for that matter. (NOT the thin liquid that comes out of a spray bottle i want the stuff that is thicker so you can put on a pad and a DA polisher). as i said i have only used gold class paste so i dont know where to start. i am also hearing alot about SEALANTS. so i dont know if i should try that insted of wax. i am looking to get as glossy finish as possible (very wet look and reflective like a mirror) and i also have to be able to use with a DA machine. hope to hear every ones opinions
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OP, I had been using Meguiars Ultimate Wax in the past and it seemed nice. I did recently switch and added a sealant to my mustang.
I am now using a sealant called M Seal that is sold by Chemical Guys and protects up to 6 months. I also added another layer of protection of a carnuba wax called butter wet wax.
This butter wet wax I got from Chemical Guys as well and its really great stuff. It protects up to 3 months and goes on like butter.
 
What does an apple taste like?

How do you know if you and I see the same thing when we see the color red?

:dunno:

"Best" is like that to me.... SUBJECTIVE

There can be no 'best' wax because each of us place differing value in its varied attributes and what I have found is that the weighting we assign to each attribute may change from detail to detail.

When deciding what LSP to put on a vehicle, I think about the following sort of things:

-availability (a reality for us in South Africa [and I am sure many other places too])
-protective ability
-durability
-prep requirements
-ease of application
-setting up time
-ease of removal
-curing time
-cost per application
-looks
-other product compatibility
-car type (daily driver / show car etc)
-car color
-customer
-weather

Change any on of the above and your choice of LSP may change with it.

I am not a waxaholic by any means, so my exploits into LSP's has been somewhat limited, but these are a few of MY favorites that I use depending on the above.

Chemical Guys Pete's 53
Collinite 845
Collinite 915 (arrived 2 days ago so will try it todayIm the MAN but have no doubt it will live up to its hype)
Gyeon Wetcoat
Menzerna Powerlock
Optimum Optiseal
Soft 99 Fusso Dark Coat
 
Currently I am still using the Klasse Twins coz it aint finish yet. Up next, is what I have been waiting for to use the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant 3.0. And ofcourse Collinite #845 always will be there due to ease of use and the amount of product needed is mind boggling small. Planning on trying out the DP mad wax as well.
 
Recently had the pleasure of using the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant 3.0. What a great product, wipe on, wipe off as Mr. Miyagi says. Truly easy to use and great protection. One other
nice feature, is that I use to get dust off the car every 2 to 3 days. Now the dust just doesn't seem to stick.
 
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