best wax/sealant for very wet winters?

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Hey there, i live in the Metro Vancouver area of BC. Aka very rainy for several months along with some snow here and there. Just wondering what my best bet would be as far as the finishing step? Was debating on collinite paste wax, but i’ve also heard sealants like M21 can provide a nice shine for a long time. I have a carport so i am te-apply if need be but i basically want the most decent shine that will hold up to heavy rains and frequent washes.
 
This will get ya through a winter

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I am fortunate enough to get to wash my car at least every other month through the Ohio winters. Wish I could do it twice weekly and with the new house and garage, I just may get too. It really does feel like a waste of time more often than not, but, can't let the deicers sit for too long. With this wash schedule I can get away with applying Reload after each wash. It gets me through the winter A-OK with bi-monthly applications. Reload absolutely doesn't last the claimed six months however, a laughable claim really. Hence bi-monthly applications.

I got lazy in 2018 with my previous car. I had my GTI coated in January and decided to put it to the ultimate test right away. After first maintenance wash with Reset I let it go til April...don't do that. The coating was trashed and had spots all over it that needed polished out. So bye-bye coating. I was bummed, but then again silly me for assuming coatings were bulletproof like many early offerings claimed to be. For the record this was Ceramic Pro. I had few options at the time, and few local detailers were doing coatings those days. Now, many offer coating systems in the Cleveland area. If only I had my own garage at the time and proper facilities, it would've saved me quite a bit.

I realize I gave you zero suggestions for a winter-long protection system, as I personally haven't experienced one yet. Just gave you my experiences and some hard learned lessons. Currently my car has two coats of Jescar Ultra Lock+ and a month in it is holding up REALLY well. Water beading is insane and gloss ain't bad either. First time using Jescar, hoping for the best. I'd like to see beading action straight through February with just maintenance washes needed.
 
Sonax Polymer Net shield does a fantastic job handling water.
 
Rather than recommending a specific product, in a bad environment like that I would step up the frequency of application of whatever you buy. For example blackfire si02 spray or 303 graphene protect very well, and I would put it on once a quarter.
 
Bobby B. said:
Collinite offers durable waxes and are very popular for winter protection. I'd personally go with a paint sealant and maintain it with an SiO2 spray sealant.

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant delivers a deep, wet, liquid shimmer unlike anything you can imagine.
BLACKFIRE SiO2 Spray Sealant
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As a guy who goes through wet winters (although not quite as cold as Vancouver's) I'd have to disagree with you here, Bobby.

While WGDGPS is a great product, and produces an incredible finish, I know from personal experience that it has nowhere near the protection or longevity of Collinite offerings.

And while I have never tried the BF Si02, are you saying a spray-on will last longer than say, 476s, 915, or even 845?

Up here in the North, we usually get one shot at applying something in the late fall, and you are lucky to even get one chance at "topping" it. In fact, you are lucky to even have a day where any liquid water is available due to freezing temperatures day & night for sometimes weeks on end.

I know the AG house brands are pretty good, but I think you might be steering this dude in the wrong direction here given his location/climate, Bobby.
 
Down in WA so very similar weather conditions. If you don’t mind spending the miney Polish Angel Cosmic will get you thorugh the winter but the stuff is spendy.

If you can get to a spot above 60 degrees F and leave it garaged for a day or two, Gyeon CanCoat would be best

For alot less and good solid protection Griots Ceramic 3-1 is anice durable product. Will handle the constant rain no problem.

Also not a forum favorite but a product that impressed my through the winter was hydrosilex


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Does anyone ever talk about Fusso coat soft 99(original formula) on this forum?
 
Wolfgang Paint Sealant is great stuff. Collinite 845 is a great wax as well. Can't go wrong with either!
 
PaulMys said:
As a guy who goes through wet winters (although not quite as cold as Vancouver's) I'd have to disagree with you here, Bobby.

While WGDGPS is a great product, and produces an incredible finish, I know from personal experience that it has nowhere near the protection or longevity of Collinite offerings.
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I can't speak for WGDGPS, but I have used Wolfgang's SiO2 Paint Sealant. Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant

I have a long term review of it around here somewhere. I found it to last longer than 845. I polished it off at the 6 month point to apply a coating, but it still had a couple months left in it. 845 would on it's dying legs at that point. It's also substantially easier to apply than 845.

For the first five months it showed fantastic water behavior very close to a coating, much moreso than something like Griots 3-in-1. If you are going to use a sealant in really rainy weather, the SiO2 sealant would be my recommendation. It's also slick enough to make wet, sloppy snow removal pretty easy too. It just glides right off.
 
Desertnate said:
I can't speak for WGDGPS, but I have used Wolfgang's SiO2 Paint Sealant. Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant

I have a long term review of it around here somewhere. I found it to last longer than 845. I polished it off at the 6 month point to apply a coating, but it still had a couple months left in it. 845 would on it's dying legs at that point. It's also substantially easier to apply than 845.

For the first five months it showed fantastic water behavior very close to a coating, much moreso than something like Griots 3-in-1. If you are going to use a sealant in really rainy weather, the SiO2 sealant would be my recommendation. It's also slick enough to make wet, sloppy snow removal pretty easy too. It just glides right off.
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I could see that, Nate.
But he mentioned the spray Si02


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PaulMys said:
As a guy who goes through wet winters (although not quite as cold as Vancouver's) I'd have to disagree with you here, Bobby.

While WGDGPS is a great product, and produces an incredible finish, I know from personal experience that it has nowhere near the protection or longevity of Collinite offerings.

And while I have never tried the BF Si02, are you saying a spray-on will last longer than say, 476s, 915, or even 845?

Up here in the North, we usually get one shot at applying something in the late fall, and you are lucky to even get one chance at "topping" it. In fact, you are lucky to even have a day where any liquid water is available due to freezing temperatures day & night for sometimes weeks on end.

I know the AG house brands are pretty good, but I think you might be steering this dude in the wrong direction here given his location/climate, Bobby.
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Vancouver winter months are moderate with lots of rain and very little snow compared to the rest of Canada that goes into a deep freeze. The Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant is perfect for wet conditions and will hold up just fine during winter months in Vancouver BC. I recommended the Blackfire SiO2 Spray Sealant for the added hydrophobicity during wet conditions. With Vancouver winter temperatures hovering in the 40s the liquid products can still be used. Nothing wrong with using the Collinite 476s, 915, or 845 waxes. They're durable waxes and popular for winter protection. I just find the WGDGPS much easier to work with.
 
We will see as I have a test going on 4 cars over a 6 month period in Michigan and Ohio with Griot's 3 in 1.
 
Bosko said:
Does anyone ever talk about Fusso coat soft 99(original formula) on this forum?
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It gets mentioned from time to time, but Autogeek doesn't offer that brand.
 
Bobby B. said:
It gets mentioned from time to time, but Autogeek doesn't offer that brand.
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I did a truck with it back in August....hard to work with and was streaky...seems do do great in tests I have seen.

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After using 476s and 915 for years, I switched over to FK1000p and never looked back. Two coats will last through a northern IL winter.
 
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