DaHen
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akimel,
How much time would you wait between the coats of 845? Or would you apply the second coat immediately after the first?
Best winter sealant?
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akimel,
How much time would you wait between the coats of 845? Or would you apply the second coat immediately after the first?
akimel
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I emailed Collinite and asked them this precise question. I was told to wait 30 minutes. Others have been told to wait 60 minutes. :dunno:
Given that my car is garaged at night and my schedule is flexible, I usually wait overnight and apply the second coat in the morning. If I didn't have the luxury of a garage or if my schedule was tight, I'd probably wait the 30 minutes and then apply the second coat. I'll be interested to hear what others who use 845 regularly do.
DaHen
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Thanks akimel,
I know that ya should wait twelve hours with WG's Deep Gloss Paint Sealant before applying another coat or anything else. (And keeping it dry.)
So the thirty to sixty minutes time frame between coats of wax sounds good to me. :xyxthumbs:
Hope to get started on my detailing in the morning. Barring any interruptions.
I know that ya should wait twelve hours with WG's Deep Gloss Paint Sealant before applying another coat or anything else. (And keeping it dry.)
So the thirty to sixty minutes time frame between coats of wax sounds good to me. :xyxthumbs:
Hope to get started on my detailing in the morning. Barring any interruptions.
wytstang
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Depends on the carnuaba wax, #16 is stilling giving sealants a run of there money and still kicking butt & taking names. To the Op it would probably be easiest to do Klassa AIO topped with Ziano x2 for winter use. Klasse and Ziano sealants are top dogs in the longevity department and since Klasse sealant is out Ziano should easily take that spot.
clearview
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I just used 845 for the FIRST time on my two black cars this weekend and I absolutely LOVED it! :dblthumb2: I did what everyone said and put in on thin. Came right off and left a shine like no other. I never heard about the dust attraction but I did notice it now that you mention it. Would an anti static or quick detailer etc... help with the dust?
Why is Klasse sealant out?
Silverstone
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I just leave it on overnight and then take it off with a little QD on the towel. Makes it real easy.
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RE: 3M Performance Finish Sealant 39030
I just discussed this product with 3M and they stated that this product does not have any cutting capability and therefore it should be possible to do multiple coats. They also stated that it has a cure time of 15-30 minutes. If this information is correct, I think this would make an excellent winter sealant. In fact it would make an excellent sealant all year round.
I just discussed this product with 3M and they stated that this product does not have any cutting capability and therefore it should be possible to do multiple coats. They also stated that it has a cure time of 15-30 minutes. If this information is correct, I think this would make an excellent winter sealant. In fact it would make an excellent sealant all year round.
FUNX650
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Not doubting the info the 3M rep you talked with gave you, but this product has:
-CERAMIC MATERIALS AND WARES, CHEMICALS,
CAS# 66402-68-4...at 5-10% by volume.
-Galaxite is one of its names.
-Has a Moh's hardness of: 7.5
-Sounds kinda abrasive to me...
Like a polishing effect to add gloss, so to say.
-Multiple coats/'layering'? Perhaps. Perhaps not.
-How is one supposed to check if any additional film-thickness of subsequent layer(s) of 39030
has actually been deposited/bonded, upon/onto, a prior film-layer of 39030? :dunno:
Bob
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I just passed on what I was told by 3M. I don't have a science background and so Galaxite and Moh's hardness are just meaningless sounds to me. This is not to disparage what you've said and maybe they were just trying to get rid of me but they seemed serious enough.
Today, I used the 3M Performance Finish sealant. I applied two coats and then added some Meguiar's #26 paste wax, mostly because I wanted to get rid of it since I don't really consider it much more than a cosmetic. We'll see how the finish holds up.
It seems to me that AutoGeek should really get on top of this issue. We deal with subjects like this with every product we buy. It seems to me that at the very least, AutoGeek should tell us if a sealant or wax can be layered. And if the manufacturer won't give them a proper answer, they shouldn't carry the product.
Today, I used the 3M Performance Finish sealant. I applied two coats and then added some Meguiar's #26 paste wax, mostly because I wanted to get rid of it since I don't really consider it much more than a cosmetic. We'll see how the finish holds up.
It seems to me that AutoGeek should really get on top of this issue. We deal with subjects like this with every product we buy. It seems to me that at the very least, AutoGeek should tell us if a sealant or wax can be layered. And if the manufacturer won't give them a proper answer, they shouldn't carry the product.
FUNX650
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Seems like such an easy thing to do...IMO.
It would take a lot of the guesswork out of the products
we buy & use equation.
Layering (if true), then, would = more product moved out of the warehouse.
Bob
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I have continued to research 3M Performance Finish and I came across a post by Mike Phillips who classifies this product as a "Finishing Sealant". A finishing sealant should have no cleaning properties and should therefore be layerable.
Types of Waxes and Sealants
Types of Waxes and Sealants