Better than Rain-x?

Agree, as I am not using RainX to avoid using wipers. I find that it results in a much clearer windshield during rain, yes when using the wipers. It is especially useful at night, when lights from other cars and rain drops can make visibility very hard. So far, it's worth the few extra mins. I would really like to find something that last a bit longer.

I have been happy with Bosch ICON blades, and have long abandoned to OEM blades on my Hondas: the use fussy inserts that are a pain to replace, and only available at dealer. The Bosch blade is a full blade system, and a quick 15 second swap.
 
I've used rain-x, aquapel and pinnacle black label glass coating.

Of those, I'd say aquapel is my favorite with black label coating behind it. I'd prefer to use nothing before going back to rain-x.

If I ever run out of the black label product, I'd be tempted to try the fly by forte rsurfer mentioned.
 
I like Adams glass sealant but for the price i will keep using rain-x. I also have nanoskin rain and i am not impressed with that even though it is the easiest to apply
 
I clayed, polished, then put Griots Garage glass sealant on my Focus. Not sure how long it lasts in constant rain because it hasn't rained in a month, but two months ago I applied and the little rain we got last week I didn't turn on the wipers at all.
 
I have had GREAT luck with the Duragloss rain repel and the Pinnacle glass cleaner with rain repellent.
 
Coopers ST said:
I clayed, polished, then put Griots Garage glass sealant on my Focus. Not sure how long it lasts in constant rain because it hasn't rained in a month, but two months ago I applied and the little rain we got last week I didn't turn on the wipers at all.
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I too have had GREAT success with Griot's Glass Sealant.

EASY ON

EASY OFF

NO STREAKS!

3 months so far with NO wiper use! Even in torrential downpours!
 
Did something change recently with Rain-X "original" formula? I used to use it all the time but the most recent bottle I got is just absolutely ridiculous to apply. It streaks really bad and seems to take forever to buff off. I have since stopped using Rain-X because it is so difficult to apply now.
 
Nicholas@Autowerx said:
Did something change recently with Rain-X "original" formula?
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This would be really good to know, as I am still using a large bottle that is dated 1998!:eek:

Griot's Garage Sealant sounds interesting...in fact, it sounds identical to RainX..anyone compared it to DP mentioned above?
 
roguerobot said:
This would be really good to know, as I am still using a large bottle that is dated 1998!:eek
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It seems like something definitely changed recently. I also had a pretty old bottle from years ago. It applied effortlessly and always wiped off clean. The new bottle I bought (this was about a year ago) was ridiculous to use. The haze never wiped fully clean. It seemed like you had to keep buffing and buffing and it was nearly impossible to get the glass looking crystal clear.

I noticed the difference immediately because I was doing a car and ran out of the old stuff and for the next few windows, using the new bottle, it was a completely different experience. After a few more terrible experiences I gave the bottle to my neighbor. And started searching for something better.

My go-to product is now FlyBy30. You no longer need to IR cure it and application couldn't be easier. I'm getting 6 months on the windshield and over a year on the side and rear glass on my wife's garage kept daily.

To step it up a notch try FlyBy Forte. It supposedly lasts up to 2 years or through 40,000 wiper cycles. I've been testing it for over 6 months now and it is showing no signs of failure on the windshield. I'm also getting very good feedback from clients.
 
Nicholas@Autowerx said:
My go-to product is now FlyBy30. You no longer need to IR cure it and application couldn't be easier. I'm getting 6 months on the windshield and over a year on the side and rear glass on my wife's garage kept daily.
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I had seen this Flyby30 before, but it looked like all the other coatings, that are expensive or more fussy. But after I watched the video [ http://youtu.be/f7RvDLeR5zU ], it looks much easier than the reviews suggest, and much like applying RainX, but with considerable surface prep. I already use Ceriglass, though the video is a much gentler application of that than what I did to get rid of scratches.

The Forte looks interesting, but it looks really hard to apply, given it disappears as you apply. [ http://youtu.be/1-kjHQPy86c ]

How many applications are you getting? It looks like Flyby30 will do many, many applications, though the Forte is not clear how much is being used in the video, though it does 3 applications.
 
Surface prep is not difficult. If there are no hard water spots or anything you are trying to remove from the glass just a light polish (even by hand) will suffice. I've also tested without doing any prep and FlyBy30 still lasted several months.

Forte is sort of weird to apply since it goes clear almost instantly. You just have to pay attention to where you are applying. I probably use about 5-10ml per windshield x3 coats. So with a 50ml bottle you can do several cars.

FlyBy30 goes a long way. I've never measured how many cars I get out of a bottle. It's sort of too cheap to meter.
 
Rain X was originally a product developed and sold by Unelco in AZ. In the late 90's they sold the brand to Shell Oil under the Quaker State care care business. Sometime around 2010 / 2011 it was sold again to Illinois Tool Works.

So the formula may have changed in all of the transactions. I don't know for a fact, but the control of the brand has changed ownership.
 
roguerobot said:
I had seen this Flyby30 before, but it looked like all the other coatings, that are expensive or more fussy. But after I watched the video [ http://youtu.be/f7RvDLeR5zU ], it looks much easier than the reviews suggest, and much like applying RainX, but with considerable surface prep. I already use Ceriglass, though the video is a much gentler application of that than what I did to get rid of scratches.

The Forte looks interesting, but it looks really hard to apply, given it disappears as you apply. [ http://youtu.be/1-kjHQPy86c ]

How many applications are you getting? It looks like Flyby30 will do many, many applications, though the Forte is not clear how much is being used in the video, though it does 3 applications.
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Hmm, my impressions of using both Fly-by and Forte, is that Forte is easier to use. I'm a big fan of Forte.
 
I'm with Nicholas. I'm seeing a year of durability with FlyBy30 on Ceriglass-machine-prepped windshields. Forte isn't too hard to apply, but I don't have enough durability testing data to report. That said, four months in it performs like it did the first day.
 
From my experience the prep work is the most important part. To start I do a quick clay treatment when I am washing the car to make sure any bug guts and tar are removed. after the wash I use my 3M 3" air polisher equip with a M3 purple foam polishing pad and Gtecjniq G4 nano Polish. I dont spend a lot of time polishing, maybe 2 to 3 minutes per side of the windshield and a very quick buzz in the side glass. It is hard to get the edges so I then follow that up with a quick raiser blade treatment on the areas I couldn't get to with the polisher. Using a clean window specific microfiber cloth and an alcohol based window cleaner I remove any residue from the polish. Now you are ready for any treatment you choose.

My personal favorites are as followed.


- Adams Glass sealant is $14.99 for 4 oz. and you can do roughly 25 to 30 complete cars with one bottle. the hydrophobic capability are about the same as rainx but it doesn't streak and it lasts 4 - 6 month. This is a great go to option and very inexpensive.


- Gtechniq G1 Clear Vision Smart Glass is 17.99 for 15 ml and you can stretch it out for two applications. The product claims to last for two years and I am pretty sure it will. The only reason I i can't confirm is because I am too impatient and redo it every year. I have been personally using Gtechniq on my car 3 years. it is not quite as hydrophobic as Adams but it repels dirt and other contaminants better then anything I have ever seen making cleanup incredibly easy. What bugs do stick to the glass wipe off with ease and scraping in the winters is a breeze. it also cured a noisy wiper problem we had for years on my wife's car.

either one of these are great options.
 
I personally use Stoner Invisible glass to clean the glass, then use Eagle 20/20 glass cleaner afterwards. I use Rain-X washer fluid consistently, and it works perfect for me on a daily driver. I only actually clean the windshields with glass cleaner maybe a few times a year.
 
glfnaz said:
Rain X was originally a product developed and sold by Unelco in AZ. In the late 90's they sold the brand to Shell Oil under the Quaker State care care business. Sometime around 2010 / 2011 it was sold again to Illinois Tool Works.

So the formula may have changed in all of the transactions. I don't know for a fact, but the control of the brand has changed ownership.
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Kinda along the lines of what happened to "Blech-Whit"...new 'owners' really tamed the product down.

Bill
 
Another vote for GG's Glass Sealant. Most of my daily commute is at 35 mph or less and an application of GG every four to six weeks keeps my wiper use to an absolute minimum. I've used Aquapel and had it last thru an entire winter, but it's quite pricey. Once I exhaust the GG, I'll probably try one of the CarPro products next, as I absolutely hate using wipers.

Bill
 
i have tried aqua-pel and also Rain-X was more satisfied with rain-X but after a couple days of rain i was not to happy with it as it no longer had any effect on the rain/water beading off. Since i have been using DP's glass coating & don't have a complaint after one month of use its still holding up like the day i applied it.

It does have a heavier price tag but it LASTS & has better beading than any other product i have used !
 
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