Between Meguiar's DA and similar Griot's 6" DA, which to choose in your opinion?

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Hi there. I am from country using 220V AC.
If you were to choose between the following two DA polishers only, which one will you go for and why?

1) Meguiar's G220V2
4.2 AMP
430 Watt Motor
1800 - 6800 OPM
5/16" thread
Cruise Control + Soft Start
1 yr warranty

2) Kestral DAS-6 Pro (almost identical to the 2nd generation of the Griot's Garage 6" DA)
7.0 AMP (guessing, because this is Griot's AMP rating)
850 Watt Motor
2,500 to 6,500 OPM
5/16" thread
no Cruise Control, no soft start
6 months warranty
*selling at about 10% cheaper than G220V2 over here.


Main usage: Apply LSP, occasionally remove scratch and polish glass to remove watermark or rain stain.

Quite hard to decide for me. I wish to hear some input from person who have used both.
 
I have had both. I far prefer the G110V2 (available in the states) to the 2nd gen Griots. However, the 3rd Gen Griots is a toss up for me with the Megs. The Megs is smoother and easier on the body than the 2nd Gen Griots. If you can get your hands on a 3rd Gen Griots, that is what I would go for.
 
RPPM said:
I have had both. I far prefer the G110V2 (available in the states) to the 2nd gen Griots. However, the 3rd Gen Griots is a toss up for me with the Megs. The Megs is smoother and easier on the body than the 2nd Gen Griots. If you can get your hands on a 3rd Gen Griots, that is what I would go for.
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Hello. Thanks for the reply.

I have wrote to Griot's Garage before and they said they do not produce the 3rd generation in 220V version. I will have to use a step up transformer if I wanted to use it. Kind of troublesome and not favorable by me. But if 3rd generation is available in 220V I have no doubt too will choose this over Meguiar's G220V2.

Since you had both, I want to ask, Meguiar's claims the Cruise Control feature makes their machine very hard to bog down. The 2nd Generation Griot's tries to achieve similar end result by utilizing more powerful motor.
Which one actually lives up to its claim? Does your G110V2 harder to bog down than the 2nd generation Griots?
 
I haven't used griot's machine, but I have a Flex and a G220v2.

G220v2 was my first polisher, and it surprised me with the power it have. I thought it was more like a toy, but you can do serious detailing with it.

Cruise Control... well, if you ever drove an old car using cruise control climbing UP the hill, that's what Meg's cruise control is all about, it'll loose rotation and probably bog down in many cases.

Sure, the most you use your Meg's DA polisher, the more you will get from it, so, try hard to use it much as you can until you master the technique.

Looks like learning curve is about 10-15 minutes (time taken for you to be able to get the feeling and start polishing with it). However, it may take weeks or even months of use for you to get the most from it. Don't be fooled by fast start, you will be able to polish from the start, but your results will get better and better as the time goes by.

The more you can keep the pad flat while using firm pressure, the less it'll bog down.

What you may do to get the most of your meg's DA:

a) Use smaller and thinner pads, like 5" backing plate and 5.5" pads.

Larger pads can be used, but for correction (when you need more pressure), the thicker larger pads will absorb much of polisher movement, so, it may bog down. If you have a hard paint to work with and a 6.5" Orange LC CCS pad (which is large and thick), odds are you'll have a really hard time correcting it.

For polishing and finishing, pads are generally softer and will ease up without bogging.

b) Use Microfiber Pads for cutting steps

Microfiber pads works wonders on a Meg's DA, it'll clear up defects in a similar fashion I do with wool pads on the Flex. However, I do tackle smaller areas with Megs + MF when compared to Flex. I mean, if I divide a roof in 4 using the Flex + Wool, I would divide it in 8 using Meg's + MF.

You'll have to deal with pressure, trying to find the right pressure to get results without bogging machine down. This is tricky, and that's the part of experience like I've said earlier.

Start on slower speeds until you get the feel for it, and be prepared to use mainly speed 6 after mastering machine, controlling pad rotation by pressure applied.

I know you've said 'no rupes or flex, please', but I need to say after getting the Flex my meg's DA was not used anymore... difference was way beyond I expected.

Anyway, I don't regret G220v2, it was good while I used it, a huge improvement from hand polishing, and an awesome school for stepping up to the Flex.

Hope I've helped, please, feel free to ask anything you want to know about G220v2, I'm here to assist you.

Kind Regards.
 
I own a G110v2 and have used fellow members 530inv and parkerslade Griots Garage v3. I have not used their second generation polisher.

With that said, yes the Griots is more powerful and you can really get some work accomplished with it.

What I really prefer in a tool is having a dedicated tool rest built into the backside of the tool. This will allow you to set the tool on its backside without fear of it falling over and your buffing pad touching the ground and picking up contaminates. Also it may not seem like much but the added benefit of the slow start built into the Meguiar's unit makes it a bit easier to work with. This can help reduce product sling.
 
Tato said:
I haven't used griot's machine, but I have a Flex and a G220v2.

G220v2 was my first polisher, and it surprised me with the power it have. I thought it was more like a toy, but you can do serious detailing with it.

Cruise Control...
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Thanks a lot for your time to explain.

There are Flex and Rupes sold here. I hold and turn on the Flex 3401 on my hand before and I actually I can handle the machine.

But the only reason that hinder me from actually purchasing it is the fact that the Flex 3401 only can use one plate. I will have to use other traditional DA to tackle area like my A pillar, bumper skirt, etc.
Feel like quite a lot of investment into a machine but then cannot work on the whole car effectively. Don't you feel this limitation when you use your Flex?

Of course it is always good to have one Flex or Rupes and another traditional DA (covering the whole spectrum of possibilities), but this gonna cost a lot at once.

I see that LC has come out a 4" plate for Flex. Is this your option when come to small panel area like A pillar when using Flex?
 
smack said:
What I really prefer in a tool is having a dedicated tool rest built into the backside of the tool. This will allow you to set the tool on its backside without fear of it falling over and your buffing pad touching the ground and picking up contaminates. Also it may not seem like much but the added benefit of the slow start built into the Meguiar's unit makes it a bit easier to work with. This can help reduce product sling.
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The tool test feature you mentioned, is referring to the Griot's 3rd generation or the Meguiar's G220V2?

So do you prefer G220V2 over Griot's 3rd generation?
 
Dear, how are you doing?

I work the full car with the Flex, using LC changeable backing plate (actually only the 4") if working smaller areas.

For the Meguiar's, I used to use a LC 3.5" plate, but paired with 4" pads.

I prefer using 4" pads on the Flex for spots, for all advantages already known (powerful, forced rotation that never stops rotating, better handle, better control by the trigger, etc).

Maybe if I had a 2-3" plate and 3" pads for Meguiar's DA I would use for even tough spots.

I also like the LC 5" hybrids for pillars, mirror, etc... they fit the 4" plate perfectly. In example, under the mirrors I can go better with Flex + 5" Hybrid than with Meg's + 4" pads, since the 'shape' of machine makes it hard for it to fit.

I plan on getting either a GG 3" or even a rotary paired with smaller plate, pads, and 'spindle extension' for more precision, but like I've said above, I can do everything I would with Meg's + 3.5" plate + 4" pads with Flex + LC 4" plate + 4" pads.

Ask if you need any support or info.

Kind Regards.
 
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