swanicyouth
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... So I'm off work for the the next two days with not much to do. I decided to change my LSP and try some new products I received via trade on the trade thread. First off, now, I want to talk about Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish. This is a chemical polish and paint cleaner that also has a glaze component built into it. This is the first Blackfire paint product I have tried. Quite frankly, for the last few years I've stayed away from AGs house brands. There is no real reason for this, other than me thinking that a dedicated manufacturer would make a better product than I company that manufacturers and retails a lot of products. I'm not sure where I got this idea. Some say Blackfire is kind of expensive, so I want to compare chemical paint cleaner type products based on price:
Wolfgang PPE: $19.99 16oz ($1.25oz)
Pinnacle PCL: $24.99 16oz ($1.56oz)
PB's Pro Polish: $18.99 16oz($1.19oz)
4* PreWax Cleaner:$17.99 16oz ($1.12oz)
Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish: $17.99 16oz ($1.12oz)
Chemical Guys Vurtua Bond: $24.99 16oz ($1.56 oz)
1Z Polish Polish Lack-Politur: $17.99 16.9oz ($1.06oz)
Ultima Paint Prep Plus: 25.99 12oz ($2.17oz)
P21S Gloss Enhancing Paint Cleanser: $14.99 11.8oz ($1.27oz)
All these products I would consider somewhat similar, In the sense they all clean paint and are non abrasive. As you can see, the price of the Blackfire cleaner is right on line with all the others at $1.12 an ounce, so it's no more expensive than anything else. I applied this product by hand on a clean washed car using a single microfiber applicator to do the whole car. Previously, the car was recently waxed, and I decided to do this just to change up my LSP. I found BGEP to be a great product. I was easy to use and left the paint slick and wet. It actually did clarify the paint, which was already in excellent condition IMHO. It took me about 2.5 hours to rub down the whole car including bumpers and all external painted surfaces in preparation for Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant. When I started I found the product to be a bit smeary, but then I realized I was using too much. How much does it take to do a whole car. Unbelievably, it took me about 8/10 of an ounce only to paint clean the whole car by hand:
This is the 2oz bottle the sample came in from the trade, it was mostly full, this is how much was left when I was done:
This is the applicator before I started (brand new):
Applicator after finished:
Blue is from the single stage paint from the letters on my PA license plate:
Some garage reflections left by the paint cleaner, car has no LSP on it:
... It's a great product and I will surely buy a bottle to use again. The only thing it don't understand is how this cleaner also acts like a glaze (it does) and leaves some oils/fillers behind. Since it's designed to use prior to Blackfire's Sealant, I would think it would have been made to leave the surface with nothing behind, as one would think the sealant needs a totally clean surface for 100% bonding. This is why I choose to use this over the P21S paint cleaner, as that is also a great product, but it does have clay in it and I would think that clay is not optimal for sealant bonding. Whatever is in it, I'm assuming it's compatible with the BFWD sealant. Thanks for reading... Next up: BFWD.
Wolfgang PPE: $19.99 16oz ($1.25oz)
Pinnacle PCL: $24.99 16oz ($1.56oz)
PB's Pro Polish: $18.99 16oz($1.19oz)
4* PreWax Cleaner:$17.99 16oz ($1.12oz)
Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish: $17.99 16oz ($1.12oz)
Chemical Guys Vurtua Bond: $24.99 16oz ($1.56 oz)
1Z Polish Polish Lack-Politur: $17.99 16.9oz ($1.06oz)
Ultima Paint Prep Plus: 25.99 12oz ($2.17oz)
P21S Gloss Enhancing Paint Cleanser: $14.99 11.8oz ($1.27oz)
All these products I would consider somewhat similar, In the sense they all clean paint and are non abrasive. As you can see, the price of the Blackfire cleaner is right on line with all the others at $1.12 an ounce, so it's no more expensive than anything else. I applied this product by hand on a clean washed car using a single microfiber applicator to do the whole car. Previously, the car was recently waxed, and I decided to do this just to change up my LSP. I found BGEP to be a great product. I was easy to use and left the paint slick and wet. It actually did clarify the paint, which was already in excellent condition IMHO. It took me about 2.5 hours to rub down the whole car including bumpers and all external painted surfaces in preparation for Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant. When I started I found the product to be a bit smeary, but then I realized I was using too much. How much does it take to do a whole car. Unbelievably, it took me about 8/10 of an ounce only to paint clean the whole car by hand:
This is the 2oz bottle the sample came in from the trade, it was mostly full, this is how much was left when I was done:
This is the applicator before I started (brand new):
Applicator after finished:
Blue is from the single stage paint from the letters on my PA license plate:
Some garage reflections left by the paint cleaner, car has no LSP on it:
... It's a great product and I will surely buy a bottle to use again. The only thing it don't understand is how this cleaner also acts like a glaze (it does) and leaves some oils/fillers behind. Since it's designed to use prior to Blackfire's Sealant, I would think it would have been made to leave the surface with nothing behind, as one would think the sealant needs a totally clean surface for 100% bonding. This is why I choose to use this over the P21S paint cleaner, as that is also a great product, but it does have clay in it and I would think that clay is not optimal for sealant bonding. Whatever is in it, I'm assuming it's compatible with the BFWD sealant. Thanks for reading... Next up: BFWD.
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