Blackfire rinseless streaking?

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I've used the stuff every way I can think of and no matter what, I still get streaks. I've used it at an ounce to two gallons of distilled water, the same dilution with tap water, and the last time I used it at half an ounce to 2 gallons. I did my traditional gdwm with it, used a waffle weave to dry it and followed behind with a microfiber for a final buff. Even still, I was left with streaking. The only way I've found to get rid of it without rubbing fairly hard is to follow behind with a qd (I use af finale). Is there a trick to using this that I'm missing?
 
top189h said:
I've used the stuff every way I can think of and no matter what, I still get streaks. I've used it at an ounce to two gallons of distilled water, the same dilution with tap water, and the last time I used it at half an ounce to 2 gallons. I did my traditional gdwm with it, used a waffle weave to dry it and followed behind with a microfiber for a final buff. Even still, I was left with streaking. The only way I've found to get rid of it without rubbing fairly hard is to follow behind with a qd (I use af finale). Is there a trick to using this that I'm missing?
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Is the panel you're working on cool to the touch?
 
The first time I used the wash, I did it in sunlight so from that point on, I made sure to park in the garage for a while, but it didn't help.
 
I've even went so far as to dry with a new towel and buff off with a new towel every panel.
 
top189h said:
I've even went so far as to dry with a new towel and buff off with a new towel every panel.
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Couple questions about your towel(s).

1. What kind are they?
2. How are you washing them?
3. How often do you wash them?

We'll get to the bottom of this. :dblthumb2:
 
Gold plush jrs, and griots waffle weave and griots green speed wipe I believe they are called. All were new out of the package except I used uber microfibers to wash with, and they were older, but were only ever washed with other microfibers, none of which were used with wax or a sealant. I had washed them with tide or more recently pinnacle micro restore. I want to say that it is the polymers that stay behind that I am having trouble with. It isn't like it's dirty or anything (I used a white microfiber in a test spot), it is just like streaks and haze everywhere until I go back over it. I did try the rinseless at qd strength on a light mist on another microfiber and had the same outcome. On a side note, I do absolutely love the product. It cleans very well and is very slick, if I could just figure this out, I would be extremely happy.
 
top189h said:
Gold plush jrs, and griots waffle weave and griots green speed wipe I believe they are called. All were new out of the package except I used uber microfibers to wash with, and they were older, but were only ever washed with other microfibers, none of which were used with wax or a sealant. I had washed them with tide or more recently pinnacle micro restore. I want to say that it is the polymers that stay behind that I am having trouble with. It isn't like it's dirty or anything (I used a white microfiber in a test spot), it is just like streaks and haze everywhere until I go back over it. I did try the rinseless at qd strength on a light mist on another microfiber and had the same outcome. On a side note, I do absolutely love the product. It cleans very well and is very slick, if I could just figure this out, I would be extremely happy.
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Only thing I can think of at this point is that it's not liking your wax or sealant....I would try the product on a different vehicle and see if it works differently.

Other than that, make sure you rotate towels often so you always have a DRY towel to perform the "final wipe" to ensure all streaks have been removed.
 
I'll check that out. Thank you for your help.
 
I never have any streaking issue with this. Use a Grey micro fiber to wash with and dry with a Mequires water magnet.
 
Agree - never had issues and I don't even do a final buff, the revised GDWM. The cobra WW works great for it but I keep all products in the BF system (polish / Crystal seal / BFMS / poly spray).
 
My truck was coated with cquk, and my brother's was done in m26 I believe. So I tried it on his truck and had the same trouble. I had never used it on my glass which is done with 845 and had not one lick of trouble.
 
I never had a problem with BF rinseless, thought it was great honestly!

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The only way to figure this out...try another rinseless product. I have 3 diff ones so for me it would be easy.
 
I had issues using BFRW with Coll 845 as my sealant, so I switched to DGRW+AW as my rinseless with 845. I have no problems with BFRW when my sealant is a BF product.
 
This product has always been absolutely foolproof for me. Even at super high concentrations (like 1oz per gallon) on black paint.

I will say I havent used the product in a very long time and I notice that a lot of these products change slightly from batch to batch.
 
top189h said:
I've used the stuff every way I can think of and no matter what, I still get streaks. I've used it at an ounce to two gallons of distilled water, the same dilution with tap water, and the last time I used it at half an ounce to 2 gallons. I did my traditional gdwm with it, used a waffle weave to dry it and followed behind with a microfiber for a final buff. Even still, I was left with streaking. The only way I've found to get rid of it without rubbing fairly hard is to follow behind with a qd (I use af finale). Is there a trick to using this that I'm missing?
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I know this might sound counter-intuitive but I suggest trying a higher concentration. It might be that you paint is dry and/or soaking in the protection of the product unevenly.

I typically always double the dilution on rinseless wash products. The only ones that ever give me problems at high concentrations are Optimum ONR and ONRWW. Those are the only ones that I follow the directions to a tee on. (or better yet I no longer use them at all).

another thing to try would be to dilute some in a sprayer and spritz the panel before drying it off.
 
I have never had any streaking unless paint is warm or out in the sun. I use this product for clay lube, rinseless wash, and instant detailer at various dilutions. I use it every week and the only time I had a problem was doing a car that sat in the sun. Good luck
 
I will try it again tonight at a higher dilution and see what that does on the CQUK.
 
None at all. I used it in some spots at double dilution, some at double as a waterless and every spot, the same streaky looking haze. The only thing I did notice was that where I had upped the dilution, the haze wiped off without anything needing to be applied to it. I missed jmsc's post earlier, and I had used onr, turtle wax and onrww and never had any trouble at all. I bought some more turtle wax to try to see if maybe my problems aren't with the bfrw. I had run out of both onr and tw, so I wanted to try something new and was torn between iudj and bfrw, and went with bfrw based on price.
 
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