boars hair car washing brush vs microfiber mitt

Been using quality boars hair brushes for the last 20 years exclusively and never created scratches. Have you guys felt how soft a high quality brush is? Much softer than any mitt I've used. Not to mention, dirt comes off a boars hair brush pretty much instantly when you dunk it in a soapy bucket. I'll never go back to using mitts.
 
MF wash mitts like are sold here at AG are really soft. If a brush is that soft, then I have to buy one just to see. I have my doubts they're that soft. Badger hair and rabbit fur maybe, but Boar's hair softer than a quality mf mitt. Wow!
 
It's not about soft to be honest. It's about surface area and how the dirt is agitated by the brush and that the dirt does not get stuck in the brush and then ground into the paint like a wash mitt does. Even using the two bucket method!
 
MTCarNut said:
Been using quality boars hair brushes for the last 20 years exclusively and never created scratches. Have you guys felt how soft a high quality brush is? Much softer than any mitt I've used. Not to mention, dirt comes off a boars hair brush pretty much instantly when you dunk it in a soapy bucket. I'll never go back to using mitts.
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Sometimes the old fashioned way is still the best. Microfiber has its use but to me the washing cycle is not the place to me.
 
I don't worry about one of those brushes holding onto dirt and not rinsing clean, at least not one I'd maintain. I have no doubt they release dirt. I have absolute faith in the above linked review. The issue I have is feel. Whether you use a brush with a pole or without a pole, you just can't feel the paint like I like to feel the paint...rather feel for debris...during a maintenance wash, which to me is supposed to be a non-aggressive approach to washing, like I can feel with a mitt. If I feel something out of place I STOP. Fingers are one of the most sensitive parts of our bodies. A pole, and/or bristle's take that feel away to a great degree.

Again, using the coin-op or home pressure washer, before using a brush or a mitt on the paint, negates most of the worry of dragging something stuck to the paint across the paint and scratching it, as does weekly/bi-weekly washings. Tree sap, bird droppings, airborne particles particularly around harvest time can float for hundreds of miles...they too can present scratching issues and become stuck to the paint from morning dew and warm sunny mornings so blast them off first regardless of your choice of wash tool.
 
MTCarNut said:
Been using quality boars hair brushes for the last 20 years exclusively and never created scratches. Have you guys felt how soft a high quality brush is? Much softer than any mitt I've used. Not to mention, dirt comes off a boars hair brush pretty much instantly when you dunk it in a soapy bucket. I'll never go back to using mitts.
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bunglebush said:
Sometimes the old fashioned way is still the best. Microfiber has its use but to me the washing cycle is not the place to me.
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Nothing like doing things the old fashioned way...


...Dunking a dirty brush into soapy water. LOL!!!! No scratches is 20 years. :laughing: I wouldn't dunk anything dirty back into a soap bucket. His words not mine. LOL!

Again, I'm not afraid to use a boar's hair brush or a mitt that I maintain on my cars.
 
@Hoytman. I can't tell whether you're for or against using brushes...
 
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Hoytman said:
Nothing like doing things the old fashioned way...


...Dunking a dirty brush into soapy water. LOL!!!! No scratches is 20 years. :laughing: I wouldn't dunk anything dirty back into a soap bucket. His words not mine. LOL!

Again, I'm not afraid to use a boar's hair brush or a mitt that I maintain on my cars.
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Actually I don't dunk anything into anywhere until I give it a good rinse with a strong spray of water. LOL!!! And most of the time the brush is very clean and the dirt does not get trapped in the brush like it does with a mitt.. the brush just loosens the dirt and then the rinse washes it away from the paint. It seems to work very well. And the only reason I brought it up in the first place is because I've failed to find hardly any videos on YouTube about using boars hair and wanted to see if any professionals used it. Did not want to start a war or a YouTube like argument with a bunch of snide comments or sarcastic remarks or lols. If I wanted that I would have posted something on YouTube!
 
Bob just posted pics above of plenty of professionals, and a few that may not be, using boars hair brushes. That satisfies me. How? Mike and Nick are knowledgeable about what they do and are good teachers. I have faith in that. Again, I'll say it...and I've already said it a couple of times...

I'm not afraid to use any mitt or brush that I would maintain. I suspect that the above professionals, are as picky as I am...maybe more. If it's good enough for Mike, then it's good enough for me. Big picture...don't push loose grit around on your paint...blast it off first with a stiff spray of water, then wash...with whatever fits your fancy...just let your tools soak for a bit first.

Eldorado, that's just the way I like it. Kidding of course, but what does it matter what anyone prefers as long as their results are no scratching. I never said I preferred either. I said I'll keep using my mitts. (Hint: I don't own a brush currently and they're expensive compared to several good mitts...currently implies I have decades ago.) However, I really like the thought of using a foam gun, or even GSKR's method for washing. You could even use either method with a hand held brush if you wanted.
 
I dismissed boars hair brushes for a very long time, but for some reason picked one up from AG earlier this year to help clean the roofs on larger vehicles. I've now transitioned to using it on the large majority of surface area instead and that's because I've had zero issues with it introducing paint imperfections of any type. A pleasant surprise, for sure.
 
If anyone is interested, the Wolfgang website is offering this brush for 15% off and free shipping. In case you don't know, Wolfgang is owned by Bob McKee so no conflict. In fact, when I ordered, the receipt said payment by Paypal was made to PBMA/Autogeek. Guess you could contact Autogeek and they would match the deal, but what's the point? Happy brushing!
 
mrken1 said:
I use my Boars hair brush when my vehicles when they are just dirty with dust and light road grim. When they are really dirty I use my hand mitt....
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OK my 2 cent update...This morning with the sun out glancing of the hood I noticed very fine scratches on my wifes MB. I confess the past washes I have been lazy and used my brush soaked it along with my foamer and alot of suds.

Being a hobbyist I have to conclude this led to the very fine scratches. Back to MF mits for me ..
 
Need the current thinking ; is the use of a ultra quality boars hair brush as -safe- as micro mitts IF the brush is soaked prior to use?
 
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Need the current thinking ; is the use of a ultra quality boars hair brush as -safe- as micro mitts IF the brush is soaked prior to use?
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Here's my expereince...

Whether or not the boar's hair car washing brush will scratch your car's paint depends on how soft or hard your car's paint is?


I've used them on an old SL 500 we owned with the PPG Ceramiclear paint system and I never seen it scratch the paint.

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When I used one to wash the paint on my old 2-door Chevy, it scratched the paint.

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So it depends.

To me the safest way to wash anything is the method I shared here,


How to safely wash a ceramic coated car by Mike Phillips - Traditional Hose & Bucket Approach

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Bill D said:
A version of the safest way to wash can be seen in this video
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I'm not sure the guy's name in this video, but here's the first time I saw the technique of spraying foam in front of the wash mitt - dates back to 2010.




Here's a screen shot at the 8:08 time mark

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I would agree that the "Foam & Wipe Method" is a very safe way to wash a car. I don't think I have the patience to do this though, nor do I want to do this much work or use this much foam soap.

I think the method I laid out is also very safe mostly because you're using so many wash mitts or microfiber towels that you automatically reduce the chance to micro-mar or even scratch the paint because you're swapping to a new mitt/towel for each panel.


But everyone can figure out what best for them.


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I originally learned the foam gun method or at least an abbreviated version of it, from Accumulator over on Autopia. He's been using it since at least 2010, even earlier.

His technique involves even more work/steps such as filling the mitt with soap until it oozes and then gently jiggling the mitt in short strokes over the paint. This is all while holding the foam gun's output over the paint. Very tedious, but he washes this way all the time.

The way I do it is more like in the video and yep, gotta use multiple mitts.
 
Been thinking about the foam gun thing, don't have a hp washer, do have a compressor but this would take about $120 usd or so out of the beer fund.
The alternative would be a gun which attaches to a garden hose nozzel but I have read/seen different reviews about these negative and positive though I don't know if the Geek style cannon was used (brass thing with different ratios ?

Further complicating the decision is that I do need a bit of reach (suv/rv) and, while I generally really overbuy on tools I am not taking care of exotic Jay Leno type of vehicles-sadly only garaged 'daily' drivers that I merely wish to keep looking decent.

Again- appreciate the replies.
 
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