Breaking the Collinite Myth: 915

I found this info in the FAQ section of the Collinite website, bolded text is mine. Collinite does not state actual percentages but there's carnauba in 915:

FAQs » Collinite


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2. What’s the difference between the auto waxes; No. 845 Insulator Wax, No. 476s Super Double Coat and the No. 915 Marque D’ Elegance?

All 3 last step waxes serve the same function: to provide a high gloss carnauba shine and lasting protection. All 3 contain copious amounts of wax-both rare Brazilian carnauba and premium synthetic polymers. However, their degree of durability, ease of use, and warmth of shine vary. Think of it this way;

1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.

2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.

3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.
 
Thanks for the link NYV, very interesting since reading the description of 915 and I thought for sure it was nuba and not a hybrid.
 
Who am I to dispute the company's claims but I own and have used all 3 of the above Collinite products and have never ever had an issue using any of them, I've done the entire car and then removed and have even left the product on for a day or more and have removed w/o a problem, did the test multiple times w/ all 3 too!

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Who am I to dispute the company's claims but I own and have used all 3 of the above Collinite products and have never ever had an issue using any of them, I've done the entire car and then removed and have even left the product on for a day or more and have removed w/o a problem, did the test multiple times w/ all 3 too!

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Did you find them all easy to work with/apply/remove?


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I found this info in the FAQ section of the Collinite website, bolded text is mine. Collinite does not state actual percentages but there's carnauba in 915:

FAQs » Collinite


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2. What’s the difference between the auto waxes; No. 845 Insulator Wax, No. 476s Super Double Coat and the No. 915 Marque D’ Elegance?

All 3 last step waxes serve the same function: to provide a high gloss carnauba shine and lasting protection. All 3 contain copious amounts of wax-both rare Brazilian carnauba and premium synthetic polymers. However, their degree of durability, ease of use, and warmth of shine vary. Think of it this way;

1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.

2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.

3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.

I have the No. 476 and it is super hard to remove if you don't remove it right away but it works like a dream!

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I love 915 and have yet to experience the issues people mention regarding removal. As a matter of fact, I just did a mini detail on my fathers BMW for him this afternoon and I finished it off with a coat of 915. Some people may freak out upon reading the next sentence. I applied it thinly over the whole car and then let it sit for about 20 minutes :eek: Guess what, it buffed of easily and with out issue. I'm really scratching my head about how this myth of it being impossible to remove came about. Are people applying it like peanut butter as someone already mentioned? Lol
 
Undoubtedly, 915 is a great product. Before using it i was very concerned that it would be hard to remove, because i had read it in numerous reviews and feedbacks online. But when i used it myself the very first time, i was very impressed. It was super easy to apply and remove as well. I don't know why people say it's hard to remove. I think they must learn how to apply the wax properly.

I found collinite 915 as easy as other well reputed high-end branded waxes i've used. I apply it on one pannel at a time and move to the next, till then the 1st pannel starts to haze. later i move back to the 1st panel and remove the wax effortlessly. While removing it, the 1st thing that comes into mind is "Man...! It's sooo easyyy.."

The only thing i hate about collinite 915 is that it's a dust magnet, which is a fact with all carnuaba waxes.
 
I found this info in the FAQ section of the Collinite website, bolded text is mine. Collinite does not state actual percentages but there's carnauba in 915:

FAQs » Collinite


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2. What’s the difference between the auto waxes; No. 845 Insulator Wax, No. 476s Super Double Coat and the No. 915 Marque D’ Elegance?

All 3 last step waxes serve the same function: to provide a high gloss carnauba shine and lasting protection. All 3 contain copious amounts of wax-both rare Brazilian carnauba and premium synthetic polymers. However, their degree of durability, ease of use, and warmth of shine vary. Think of it this way;

1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.

2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.

3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.
I know that Collinite states that there is: copious amount of wax...in the above products:
carnauba and "premium synthetic polymers" (synthetic waxes).

I also know that Collinite states, as I alluded to, that #915 has a melting point of: 132.8-143.6 °F

Since carnauba wax has a melting point of: 172-185ºF...
Why the melting points discrepancy?


-Is it due to an unknown amount of carnauba wax being added to an admixture consisting of
at least some "premium synthetic waxes" and some hydrotreated light petroleum distillates...
to bring the resulting total-mixture's melting point up to the stated 132.8-143.6 °F?

Or:

-Did this admixture bring an unknown amount of carnauba wax's melting point down to 132.8-143.6 °F?

Not saying there's anything wrong with #915, or any other Collinite waxes:
I've used and really like all three that's been listed!!...Just pointing out their melting points.

Speaking of melting points:
-#476s: 132.8-143.6 °F same as #915.
-#845: N/A...(?)
-Bee's wax: 144-149ºF


Wax on!!

Bob
 
Did you find them all easy to work with/apply/remove?


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All 3 have been VERY easy to apply AND remove. I wish I could be there to see the process, someone's doing something wrong, have to be!

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For sure Pat, "thin is in" but that's the case with every product out there.

Can't really say there's a product out there that says to "lay it on thick for best results", LOL!


Thin is in...


As it relates to any "finishing" LSP. Cleaner/waxes when used on neglected paint are the exception and then you want to use them heavy or wet.

Also foam guns...


More is better...


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How long did u let it dry Desertnate? With 845 I let it sit about an hour and it comes right off.
 
How long did u let it dry Desertnate? With 845 I let it sit about an hour and it comes right off.

It sat for about 40 minutes. I did the entire car and the wheels, took a break, and then went after the removal. I did the same in warmer temps with no problems at all.
 
It sat for about 40 minutes. I did the entire car and the wheels, took a break, and then went after the removal. I did the same in warmer temps with no problems at all.

Glad to hear you had no problem with removal after leaving it on the car, I too have had NO issues doing this, have left it on for well over a day even and still, no problem.

Doing the wheels is a great idea too! I did mine w/ #476 when I did my winter prep and I expect them to continue to clean up easily all winter long when doing my rinseless maintence washes.

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Doing the wheels is a great idea too! I did mine w/ #476 when I did my winter prep and I expect them to continue to clean up easily all winter long when doing my rinseless maintence washes.

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An odd observation I've had is now that I've treaded the wheels, they stay cleaner than the rest of the car! There is very little break dust (never happens on a German car), and no road grime after two days of commuting in the rain.

I've put other stuff on my wheels before like Klasse SG or Meguiars Cleaner Wax, and so for the 845 has held up the best. I'm not sure if it holds up to the heat better due to the original purpose of the stuff or what, but I'm pleased.
 
That's a great report, especially on a German car and its dusty pads, show some pics!

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An odd observation I've had is now that I've treaded the wheels, they stay cleaner than the rest of the car! There is very little break dust (never happens on a German car), and no road grime after two days of commuting in the rain.

I've put other stuff on my wheels before like Klasse SG or Meguiars Cleaner Wax, and so for the 845 has held up the best. I'm not sure if it holds up to the heat better due to the original purpose of the stuff or what, but I'm pleased.

For a while I had both an Audi and BMW in the family fleet. The BMW had 12 spoke wheels, which added up to 48 nooks full of nasty German brake dust. After a thorough cleaning, they got treated with two coats of Colli 476. All it took to keep them up was a Daytona Jr. and my rinseless solution. I actually bought a Zane's Wheel Shield so I could APC the tires without compromising the wax on the wheels.

Bill
 
Here is another little update on my thoughts on 915. I've re-applied it. It still wipes off effortlessly. I mean so effortlessly it's removed after one wipe. Now I just apply it to the whole car and remove it. The wax is very easy to apply and remove and spreads well. I've applied it at 20 some degrees and it's just as easy to use. I've even tried applying it thick - still easy to remove. It''s a great looking wax. It leaves the paint silky smooth. Almost slick. If they put this in a fancy container they could sell it for $200 easy.

However, after going through snow, ice, and salt for a week or so - I washed the car. Beading was nowhere near as impressive as initially. You could see it was "there" - but not the crazy beading like right after application. On the lower side panels, you couldn't say if wax was there for sure. Maybe no wax can take this sludge? The thing is, I'm comparing it to my roof and bumpers which are OptiCoated topped by Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer. The beads there are always sick looking. Doesn't matter if the car is dirty or not - it's like beads on Viagra.

Another interesting thing of note is the hydrophobic qualities of Griots/Pinnacle Glass Sealants. Those products are SUPER hydrophobic - almost like OptiCoat. My car can be covered with salt and sludge, the paint won't bead super tight, but the glass beads and sheets like crazy. I'm not sure what is in this stuff, or why it can't be put in a LSP. But, it seems super tough and beading is crazy for those glass sealants.

I'm almost thinking of experimenting with the glass sealants on paint. They are clear and leave no haze or residue - so I can't foresee an issue. Maybe top the glass sealant with Sonax BSD. Sounds like a 50:50 hood test. Wax vrs Glass Sealant.
 
I'm thinking that applying #915 in 20 degree temps has something to do with why its not holding up as well, there's a reason for the 60 degree thing I'm sure.

Glass coating as an LSP, check into what's in there so you don't damage the clearcoat.

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