Browning of tire after cleaning?

A very stiff brush and eagle one a2z work very well for me. I never clean a tire more than once. A2z is also very cheap.
 
Flash Gordon said:
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So you get the tire clean, it goes brown due to blooming, then use lacquer thinner on it to turn it back to black, and then put the dressing on?

I am going to use PERL a few times to see how I like it.

Then after a while they will turn brown again due to the tire blooming?
 
FUNX725 said:
I know about the antiozonant, blooming, et al...But:

After it gets, as you put it: pushed towards the surface
(Can it really just hang around at the surface?)...
where as I propose that it then: can't get out;
What happens to it?

If/Is it no longer needed to protect the tires by blooming/browning/oxidizing...
(eventually becoming depleted): What happens to it?

That was the gist of my previous post.

Again:
Can antiozonants really just hang around at the surface of a "Coated" tire?

Bob
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Would you believe it keeps the tires from dry rotting forever since it is trapped right there on the surface? Yah me neither.

I have tried the futile task of keeping water or gases confined indefinitely. Not an easy task. So I don't think anything you put on a tire will keep a gas from escaping trough it including completely encasing it in concrete.

That being said I have pondered the same thing you are pondering. Which scares me a little. lol
 
If the tire is indeed truly air tight sealed due to the Tuf Shine clear coat, I would assume the antiozonant would follow the path of least resistance and out gas at the uncoated tread and fender facing side walls.
 
Clean them with zep 505 degreaser and then if that doesn't take care of it (which it should), wipe them down with mineral spirits. Will look brand new after.
 
aim4squirrels said:
If the tire is indeed truly air tight sealed due to the Tuf Shine clear coat, I would assume the antiozonant would follow the path of least resistance and out gas at the uncoated tread and fender facing side walls.
wlshephard said:
Would you believe it keeps the tires from dry rotting forever since it is trapped right there on the surface? Yah me neither.

I have tried the futile task of keeping water or gases confined indefinitely. Not an easy task. So I don't think anything you put on a tire will keep a gas from escaping trough it including completely encasing it in concrete.

That being said I have pondered the same thing you are pondering. Which scares me a little. lol
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Are the antiozonants (and waxes) that are imbedded into the rubbers'/synthetic-rubbers' sidewall-formulations gaseous?

Bob
 
GreatAvalon said:
So you get the tire clean, it goes brown due to blooming, then use lacquer thinner on it to turn it back to black, and then put the dressing on?

I am going to use PERL a few times to see how I like it.

Then after a while they will turn brown again due to the tire blooming?
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Yes. Clean the tire, then after it is 100% dry wipe the tire with lacquer thinner, then apply dressing (if you wish)

I've never heard of the term blooming. They shouldn't brown out afterwards. If they do; repeat the process

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FUNX725 said:
Are the antiozonants (and waxes) that are imbedded into the rubbers'/synthetic-rubbers' sidewall-formulations gaseous?

Bob
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I'm not sure the method used to introduce the antiozonant into the rubber mixture when tires are made, though the reaction to cause the tire to brown happens with a gas. It was an assumption based on the brown continuing to appear even aft a surface had been cleaned. But I supposed a solid or liquid could be ubiquitously distributed throughout the rubber compound as well.

The term out gas may have been incorrect terminology.
 
Here you go.... once you machine scrub tires you'll never want to do it by hand with a brush again...


Best darn tire cleaning brush I've ever used!


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Yep, the Porter Cable with a Cyclo brush mounted to it instead of the backing plate! Takes ALL the elbow grease out of getting old, slimy tire dressings off, blooming, (the brown residue that builds-up when antiozonants meet ozone in the air), and deteriorated dead rubber.

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Here's the tires I need to clean. They have some type of slimy tire dressing on them and the white letters look kind of brownish...

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I'm going to apply Tuf Shine and the directions for Tuf Shine state that all previously applied dressings need to be removed in order for the Tuf Shine Clearcoat. I started out using the Tuf Shine Brush and it as well as any good tire brush will get the job done but ding dang scrubbing tires surgically clean is a LOT of work and it's awkward because the tires are low to the ground and vertical faced.


First I sprayed on the Tuf Shine Tire Cleaner...

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Then I let the machine do the work... now I'll let the pictures do the talking...

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After scrubbing the tires clean I moved the Monte Carlo back into the studio to get the paint polished but here's how the tires look now, perfectly clean and ready for application of the Tuf Shine Clearcoat.

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Let the machine do the work...
So if you already own a Porter Cable, Meguiar's G110v2 or Griot's Garage DA Polisher, then add a Cyclo brush or to and anytime you have any brush cleaning to do, let the machine do the work for you.


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This is the Grey Ultra Soft Upholstery Brush...

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Action shot!

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There are 4 different brushes available so you can choose the aggressiveness of the brush bristles for your scrubbing job...

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On Autogeek.net

Cyclo Polisher Brushes


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Here's actually what I wrote back in 2002.... taken from this thread... in the thread, Hazcat shares something someone e-mailed him but never gave credit to the author... it was me from 12 going on 13 years ago.



Mike Phillips said:
Tire Browning: Blooming

Modern rubber formulas used by tire manufactures contain an ingredient called Antiozonant. An antiozonant is a chemical that tire manufacturers add to the tire rubber to help prevent rubber degradation (cracking, splitting, oxidizing, and overall deterioration) due to the rubber’s interaction with ozone (an odorless gas that is part of the air we breathe).

Quite interesting is the fact that tire rubber is designed to constantly work the antiozonant to the outside of the tire as it rolls – in this way, the outside surface of the tire is continually replenished with fresh antiozonant.

This process provides the positive result of ozone protection, but the negative result of tire browning – once the antiozonant gets exposed to the ozone in the air, it turns brown due to oxidation. The technical term for this effect is blooming.

The next time you are in a parking lot, observe the tires on the vehicles you pass – most likely you will see a brownish film on the surface of the tires.

Every time you drive your car, the antiozonant migrates its way to the outside of the tires.

One thing you might be aware of is the fact that vehicles that sit for extended periods of time (months or years) often have tires that show evidence of cracking and drying (dry rot). This cracking occurs due to the fact that there is no opportunity for the tires’ antiozonant to migrate to the surface to provide protection.
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All that due credit where credit is due kind of thing...


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Flash Gordon said:
Yes. Clean the tire, then after it is 100% dry wipe the tire with lacquer thinner, then apply dressing (if you wish)

I've never heard of the term blooming. They shouldn't brown out afterwards. If they do; repeat the process

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I think your right, just gotta keep on it to get the stuff all the way off I guess. Thanks for the help Flash!!!


Mike P. - thanks for the info. Glad to hear I need some more elbow grease and didn't somehow bleach the tires brown. That brush attachment looks like the ticket for my PC. Takes all the work out of it!!! :buffing:
 
The blooming isn't dirt, and isn't silicone - so it shouldn't interfere with the TS Coating. It should look fine. As for regular dressings, there shouldn't be a problem there either.
 
GreatAvalon said:
I think your right, just gotta keep on it to get the stuff all the way off I guess. Thanks for the help Flash!!!


Mike P. - thanks for the info. Glad to hear I need some more elbow grease and didn't somehow bleach the tires brown. That brush attachment looks like the ticket for my PC. Takes all the work out of it!!! :buffing:
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Your welcome! It shouldn't be that big of a deal or require much effort or time

Not to take away from Mike's advice, but I would be very cautious using an electrical tool with water

Water + Electricity = Death
 
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