Browning tire

addysdaddy said:
Definitely NOT the Tuff Shine but the DP Tire Cleaner is excellent. I was using Megs D101 APC which was ok, but the DP Tire Cleaner gets top marks. +1 to Nick for nudging me to try it.
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Dang, I just received Tuff Shine in the mail today. Debated on that or DP Tire Cleaner...
 
My tires weren't really brown since they were only a few months old and never had a tire product applied, but I used Amazing Roll Off and a brush and they were nice and clean when done. Then I used TW Jet Black Tire Kit, I think it's called, and the tires are BEAUTIFUL! I used it 3weeks ago and they look like it was just applied (except where I scraped a curb, oops). I don't know how many of you have tried this TW product but I absolutely love the stuff! It's kind of a black runny dye so you have to be a bit careful applying it (comes with a nice applicator though), but the tires come out looking perfect and doesn't seem to wear off (the kit also comes with a tire cleaner but I had been wanting to try the ARO so I didn't try the cleaner). It states it's acrylic so I don't know if it's good or bad for the tires, but I've never seen a tire product look so good for so long, and I'm guessing it will last quite a bit longer. Also, they've been through quite a bit of rain. I've never used a tire product where the results were this good, but I must admit that I haven't used them all.
 
I find the hardest part is the scrubbing. I used the Turf Shine Cleaner and a carpet brush with hook and loop backing on my PC. Now this makes a fair mess and I did it with the wheels off the car and outside. First pass turned the cleaner very brown. Second pass went white quickly. I finished with through rinse with water and fresh pad. When dry put on Optimum Tire Gel.
 
Tire Browning: Blooming

Modern rubber formulas used by tire manufactures contain an ingredient called Antiozonant. An antiozonant is a chemical that tire manufacturers add to the tire rubber to help prevent rubber degradation (cracking, splitting, oxidizing, and overall deterioration) due to the rubber’s interaction with ozone (an odorless gas that is part of the air we breathe). Quite interesting is the fact that tire rubber is designed to constantly work the antiozonant to the outside of the tire as it rolls – in this way, the outside surface of the tire is continually replenished with fresh antiozonant. This process provides the positive result of ozone protection, but the negative result of tire browning – once the antiozonant gets exposed to the ozone in the air, it turns brown due to oxidation. The technical term for this effect is blooming.
 
AnthonyGXP said:
Tire Browning: Blooming

Modern rubber formulas used by tire manufactures contain an ingredient called Antiozonant. An antiozonant is a chemical that tire manufacturers add to the tire rubber to help prevent rubber degradation (cracking, splitting, oxidizing, and overall deterioration) due to the rubber’s interaction with ozone (an odorless gas that is part of the air we breathe). Quite interesting is the fact that tire rubber is designed to constantly work the antiozonant to the outside of the tire as it rolls – in this way, the outside surface of the tire is continually replenished with fresh antiozonant. This process provides the positive result of ozone protection, but the negative result of tire browning – once the antiozonant gets exposed to the ozone in the air, it turns brown due to oxidation. The technical term for this effect is blooming.
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:iagree: Good post for those that use harsh wheel and tire cleaners.:props:
 
I have had good success with Mothers Tire and rim cleaner. It goes on like a foam. Sometimes it brings up some brown, and when you brush it with a tire brush and rinse it with a hose, it comes out beautifully black. I have used this in Florida for the past 6 years.
 
1 application of Meg's Super Degreaser at 4 or 5:1, or 2 applications of Meg's APC should certainly remove this. If you're needing something found locally, Zep Industrial Purple from Lowe's or Wally will get the job done effectively.
 
IMO once the tire is clean [meaning no dirt or oils wipe off once dry] there's no need whatsoever to worry about the blooming. It will not interfere with your preferred dressing or coating. At least none of the ones I use. I'm a fan of both Hyper Dressing and also TW Endura Tire Coat, depending on the vehicle and desired look.

IMO, this tire which had been cleaned 3 times using D143 and a tire brush is now perfectly clean and ready to apply Hyper Dressing. No worries at all about the blooming. It disappears as soon as the product is applied and never comes back. I've never had a problem with browning tires unless it was plain old dirt.

Once it's nice and clean, bare and free of any previous dressings it pretty much always looks like this. Dirt is long gone. That brown color from the blooming is NP.

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Hyper Dressing applied.

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Finished look, ready for optimum longevity thx to proper prep.

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Here's another clean & prepped tire. This time used D108 Super Degreaser @4:1. Just 1 quik round with the scrub brush. Bare clean tire.

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Always the same results. Great results.

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With the Endura Tire Coat I like use the supplied cleaner after cleaning it the way I normally clean tires. Just a quik spray on/hose off, then blow dry using the Metro Sidekick. If the tires are bone dry and ready to accept the coating I expect them to be more brown than black.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Great looking tires!!! Do you dilute the Hyper Dressing or use it at full strength?
 
Thanks!

I dilute it 1:1 and apply it with a flagged tip brush.
 
Thanks! I need to get some Hyper Dressing. It seems to have a 1,001 uses!
 
If you find many uses for it all the better, but to be honest I've found myself using it less lately. Thing is you have to be carefull sometimes where you apply it. For example I went over the hard plastic that goes along the top of the truckbed with that same brush I used for the tires, and while it looked great at the time, I passed by a couple days later to find it had ran all down the side of the paint. I'm lucky that truck belongs to a good friend of mine and not a new customer, but it still let me down so bad that I re washed his truck free of charge.

Another thing is that it tends to attract alot of dirt when applied to exterior trim.. I've had much better user experience by switching to D156 Synthetic Spray Wax as long as the exterior trim on the vehicle isn't in need of "restoring"
With D156 there's virtually no dirt on exterior plastic when it comes time to wash it and that's always good. It may not be the best solution, but it's alot neater.

I've I've never used it on any parts of the interior as I have other products I like, mainly D180 Leather Cleaner & Conditioner for all areas leather, vinyl, and even non clear plastic. It also smells really appealing without being overbearing or too shiny. But I can't knock it till I try it.

What I do love it for is tires & wheel wells. It's what I use on my own car and it provides the look I desire.

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This is a flag tipped wheel brush, in case anyone's wondering what kind of brush works great for applying tire dressing. They can be found at most local detailing/auto paint supply stores, or through CG's if you feel like paying extra for it. Lol.

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Rsurfer said:
Your using a wheel brush to apply tire dressing?

Wouldn't the below brush be a better option?

Carrand Brush & Shine Tire Dressing Applicators, tire brush, tire shine applicator
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That seems mighty small for me to liberally spray Hyper Dressing onto without getting overspray all over the place. With the wheel brush I use I can fully spray right onto the brush and cover the whole tire in seconds. Those kind of brushes are what the guys who work at car washes have been using for years.
This vid shows the exact brush that I use and how effective it is at applying tire dressing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XLT7YQo3C-o
 


That seems mighty small for me to liberally spray Hyper Dressing onto without getting overspray all over the place. With the wheel brush I use I can fully spray right onto the brush and cover the whole tire in seconds. Those kind of brushes are what the guys who work at car washes have been using for years.
This vid shows the exact brush that I use and how effective it is at applying tire dressing.

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Certainly too big for low profile tires, unless you're working on monster trucks all day, this brush would be rendered useless for dressings.

Most modern day cars have tire sidewalls that are much narrower than this brush.

He even mentions in the video that this brush is only useful on oversize tires.
 
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