Bug Removal

I was just looking at the Poorboy's site, from his facebook page looks like Steve is still doing the car show circuit down in Florida, is planning to come out with some new products, and also has a YouTube channel as well as his own forum.

As opposed to Zaino who finally took down their "what's new" page a few years ago...since there hadn't been anything new since 2007. There is a tech support line still, which wouldn't surprise me if that got you to Sal Zaino.

EDIT: It looks like Sal might have sold, the Zaino Brothers trademark is owned by Z-2 Industries, trademarked in 2017. Manta shows the company started in 2014, with an estimated 2 employees.
 
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Desertnate said:
I think this was pretty important for the AO house brands like Wolfgang, DP, Blackfire, and even McKee's 37 when it was part of the family. Having members here do reviews, not only got us chatting about them, but it created something people would find when Googling products or brand names.

Over the years, I won a couple drawings and on another occasion got a whole box of stuff I reviewed when I approached them about a couple upcoming jobs. I also did a pre-release test on a McKee's product. Of course you need active participation here from corporate folks for that to happen.
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Do they still sell DP brand? I haven’t heard a mention of anything of theirs in forever.
 
My bug removal is labocosmetica primus 2.0
1:20 dilution. Very effective

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Rsurfer said:
What do you guy's like for easy bug removal without removing your LSP?
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i use purple power and a soft brush that's been soaking in soapy water. Has never been a issue for me.

Sorry to hear about your wife's passing.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Do they still sell DP brand? I haven’t heard a mention of anything of theirs in forever.
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Yes, they do. They did stop selling anything from the brand, but then did a re-boot a few years ago. DP Products.

Of the products I was given to try I wasn't that impressed. There should be a review around here somewhere. The interior coating wasn't that special and the polishes I didn't find to be all that great. They reminded me of the Meguiars Ultimate line, only the compound had a much shorter working time.
 
I was looking at various bug removers with an interest in the product chemisty.

Griots and MK37 mention strong surfectants
Adam's mentions lots of "butyl"
3D references a strong APC
PB mentions engineered to breakdown unique proteins
DIY Detail includes as part of All Clean (citrus APC)
Pan does not have the greatest yet (could not help it)

Of course, the main goal is to soften so something that can dwell is a plus.
 
Bunky said:
I was looking at various bug removers with an interest in the product chemisty.

Griots and MK37 mention strong surfectants
Adam's mentions lots of "butyl"
3D references a strong APC
PB mentions engineered to breakdown unique proteins
DIY Detail includes as part of All Clean (citrus APC)
Pan does not have the greatest yet (could not help it)

Of course, the main goal is to soften so something that can dwell is a plus.
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This is the way I have always approached it, get the critters rehydrated and get some slippery soap all around them and go easy

Since Stoners was the first bug remover I tried and since in my mind, it was/is pretty harsh, I just gravitated to a SOAPY approach rather than a CHEMICAL approach, if that makes any sense

One thing I saw a lot of when we were still traveling in our RV was guys scrubbing and scrubbing the front of their rigs with brushes and sponges and harsh nylon bug scrubbers and using all sorts of concoctions and products but basically they were just mechanically removing the bugs and their paint reflected that harsh approach

I even saw guys go out the morning before they broke camp to head out and spray Pam cooking spray or silicone spray all over the front to make a "bug barrier"

These were often the same guys I saw scrubbing bugs like mad so obviously their routine wasn't working
 
chilly said:
This is the way I have always approached it, get the critters rehydrated and get some slippery soap all around them and go easy

Since Stoners was the first bug remover I tried and since in my mind, it was/is pretty harsh, I just gravitated to a SOAPY approach rather than a CHEMICAL approach, if that makes any sense

One thing I saw a lot of when we were still traveling in our RV was guys scrubbing and scrubbing the front of their rigs with brushes and sponges and harsh nylon bug scrubbers and using all sorts of concoctions and products but basically they were just mechanically removing the bugs and their paint reflected that harsh approach

I even saw guys go out the morning before they broke camp to head out and spray Pam cooking spray or silicone spray all over the front to make a "bug barrier"

These were often the same guys I saw scrubbing bugs like mad so obviously their routine wasn't working
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What a terrible idea. Cooking sprays will attract bugs. Spray the front end with wd40 instead. ... you will thank me later
 
Flash Gordon said:
What a terrible idea. Cooking sprays will attract bugs. Spray the front end with wd40 instead. ... you will thank me later
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Or a dedicated bug remover...............................
 
When my question was if the actual chemistry in bug removal products really make a difference in softening the bug compared to other products. The feature I was looking for was something foamy that would stick more on vertical surfaces. PB's Bug Squash does not stick well. I try to keep protection on the surface too so works against sticking so it can dwell.
 
Bunky said:
The feature I was looking for was something foamy that would stick more on vertical surfaces. PB's Bug Squash does not stick well. I try to keep protection on the surface too so works against sticking so it can dwell.
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This would be amazing. Do any of the bug products foam/dwell? You are correct in the Poorboys doesn't and that is my only complaint. I would love something that would foam and/or hang around on the surface better.

3D's is thicker so it does dwell a bit better, but not great and I found it didn't eat away at the splatter as well as Bug Squash. Of note this is when using their RTU spray bottle, which I believe is just the concentrate at full strength and not at the recommended dilution like you'd mix up when buying a gallon jug. It might not be as thick at the proper ratio.
 
Flash Gordon said:
What a terrible idea. Cooking sprays will attract bugs. Spray the front end with wd40 instead. ... you will thank me later
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I said THEY liked to do that, I never got in on any of those horrible hacks, although it was amusing what you would see guys doing as far as exterior maintenance goes

I kept a good coating of Rejex on the front and it honestly held up and helped get the front end clean

Over the years between 2 Class A coaches I tried a LOT of waxes and sealants
 
Flash Gordon said:
What a terrible idea. Cooking sprays will attract bugs. Spray the front end with wd40 instead. ... you will thank me later
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In either case *oil* is being applied to the surface, which IMO is not a real good idea. While oil may make it easier to remove things like bugs that impact the surface in the interim it's also going to contribute to retaining dirt, dust, etc. and generally making the surface grimy. Now if someone is applying it right before making a drive through some bug-laden route with the intent to clean it off at their destination I could understand. In that case I don't think *which* oil is applied is going to make much of a difference as any bugs "attracted" to the PAM (whose prime ingredient is canola oil, like most cooking sprays) are involuntarily impacting upon the surface via physics and not choice. For WD-40 once the naptha solvent evaporates what is left behind is the mineral oil. In the end, with either product, oil is being applied to the surface.
 
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