Steelholder
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Don't think anyone is having this problem due to too much power. The original BP does need to be replaced and is notorious for cutting pads, i think this is what you meant.
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I purchased the 15 then immediately put it to work.I was wet sanding a 58 impala and was refining the paint.I knew right away the 15 wasn't for me,took forever to correct and stalling on curve panels.I had to finish with rotary,I asked myself if I could tolerate or have the patience for this machine and the answer was no.Boxed it up and returned it and bought a new gg6.The gg6 will correct quicker everyone has there own technique and preference on different tools and such.The griots 15 would be perfect for flat panels like rvs or boats.
Joe@NextLevelDetail
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58 impala is one of my favorite cars, they are beautys, i can see by the trunk where the fins flare out it would be tough.
But the hood trunk and side panels, you really should of seen the capablities of the machine! That is where long throws thrive!
But like you said its prefrence, people love using the 3401 as there primary machine, for me i correct paint way faster with my long throw tools, and only use the 3401 where i cant use my long throws.
What pads were you using with the G15 the boss pads ?
Little tip if you order a long throw in the future, use a thick pad in the curvy areas, thin pads and long throws kind of suck in concave contoured areas, you would have to try to adjust to make the machine spin if all fails, i usually use a thicker pad so the pad can contour to that panel.
The boss has plenty of power with a thicker pad to keep spinning on concave areas, it has to be a pretty impossible spot for me not able to get it to work!
And if that fails i bust out my 3401 or gg6
But i couldnt agree moren with you, everyone has there own preference and polishing style, the majority is the same however there are a few little things that vary from each polisher.
I always say comfort is one of the most important factors when trying to perfect paint, being comfortable is key.
And you could have one machine with more power and more torque but if your not comfortable with it, your not going to do a good job.
I couldnt agree with you more tho, the griots garage 6 inch i call it the mini-boss, i actually love using it and often put my boss machines down for it, i love it
Joe@NextLevelDetail
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Hmmm, did you use the washer mod to properly space the plate from the shroud?
I know i can put a ton of pressure on my g21 and 15 and no stalling issues, then again i use the washer mod on both.
Eldorado2k
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Hmm... I'll tell ya what, when I 1st started using my G21 I kinda had similar thoughts.. But the more I use it the more I've grown to like, dare I say love my new polisher. I've honestly had moments where I just stop and grin at how nice of an upgrade it is.
We as men tend to be stubborn when it comes to change.. But with a little time we begin to see the upside that comes with change if we give it a fair shot.. Fair shot meaning old dog learns new tricks.
I remember back when I made the transition from my beloved Nokia flip phone to my very 1st iPhone.. I absolutely hated the iPhone the 1st day I had it.. But within a week I couldn't believe how awesome that new phone was
I've never used it on speed 1-3. I prefer using the throttle trigger for spreading.. Even though I initially hated the thing, I've gotten used to it now. I'm not perfect with it yet, but I'm starting to like it, and that's a good sign. I'd be really cool if there was a toggle between having a "slow start" and throttle trigger.
Did you order the 1st version Rupes 15, or the Rupes 15MKll?
And you say you sent back the G15 for a GG6... What DA polisher were you using before? [by before I don't mean the GG6 that you worked to death. But as far as that GG6 that you worked to death goes.. What happened to the lifetime warranty on it?]
dlc95
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I had a very similar experience as Eldorado with my Duetto. Especially after I cleaned the back plate of it's grease. Eventually, the machine cannibalized itself, and wore the shroud away. Specs of black rubber all over the work area, the smell of burning rubber, etc. Then, the next thing I know, the plate is free spinning, and I lost a lot of the benefits of the increased oscillations, and balanced rotations.
Then I did my research. I ordered a new shroud, and picked up a tube of dielectric grease. These machines aren't really intended to yield to our personal approaches, but are intended for use as a system. We're intended to learn how to use it.
Last summer I'd be putting the Duetto and the 3401 aside for the PC because of that. The 3401 never cut fast for me though, so after four years I sold it. The Duetto, I had high hopes for, and thankfully Dylan chimed in about greasing the plate. Now I've spent adequate time with their system, and am comfortable using just their system on whatever I'm faced with.
I still use the PC though. I enjoy the system I developed for it. It's easy, effective, and still very fun to use. Even the original 7424. I really enjoy using that too.
Joe and VISITOR sold me on the GG6. I should have one in a month or two. I hear nothing but positive reviews about that machine.
Then I did my research. I ordered a new shroud, and picked up a tube of dielectric grease. These machines aren't really intended to yield to our personal approaches, but are intended for use as a system. We're intended to learn how to use it.
Last summer I'd be putting the Duetto and the 3401 aside for the PC because of that. The 3401 never cut fast for me though, so after four years I sold it. The Duetto, I had high hopes for, and thankfully Dylan chimed in about greasing the plate. Now I've spent adequate time with their system, and am comfortable using just their system on whatever I'm faced with.
I still use the PC though. I enjoy the system I developed for it. It's easy, effective, and still very fun to use. Even the original 7424. I really enjoy using that too.
Joe and VISITOR sold me on the GG6. I should have one in a month or two. I hear nothing but positive reviews about that machine.
I needed a polisher quick and for 149.00 I just bought a new one.Always had a gg6. And previously gg6.
Great little machine,deos the same job as a 400.00 polisher,and has plenty of power to tackle pretty much anything.If I'm working on a car with tight corners and curvy panel,I don't want to stop and pickup a different machine all the time.I had about 3 or for jets this year and polished everyone of them with a gg6 including a 737.Bottom line is its not a bad machine just not for me.
StealthXJ
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Thank you for all of the advice. Looks like people are in love with GG 6, so I may look to buy one eventually.
So, I ended up buying McKee's fast compound, fast polish and the 360. I also bought Meguiars #7 glaze, because it was really cheap and got great reviews, and some Collinite #845. I look forward to receiving everything and working on my Jeep.
So, I ended up buying McKee's fast compound, fast polish and the 360. I also bought Meguiars #7 glaze, because it was really cheap and got great reviews, and some Collinite #845. I look forward to receiving everything and working on my Jeep.
Dereksdtail
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Keep it simple, don't waste your money on stuff you don't reallllly need
HD polish,HD cut
Uber rinseless for wash,clay lube etc
Nanoskin sponge
Menzerna powerlock or HD poxy
All about a profit!
HD polish,HD cut
Uber rinseless for wash,clay lube etc
Nanoskin sponge
Menzerna powerlock or HD poxy
All about a profit!
Joe@NextLevelDetail
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The mckees polishes are really easy to use, and you will get great results.
They work wet have a long buffing cycle, no dusting, and easy wipe off.
Good choice.
Just remeber when your polishing peoples cars, you do not need to do a 2-3 step process.
Like Mike Phillips says "dont sell showroom paint correction to a daily driver honda van"
They wont appreciate it, and wont even know how to maintain it.
To put a shine on peoples cars use the 360 go arouns the car in 1-2 hours and your done.
Good peoduct selection.
ah,someone who agrees with me.
Dereksdtail
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It's too easy to overthink this detailing stuff with all the "new" and "improved" products out there, buy concentrates and products that are multipurpose. Keep it simple with compounds and polishes, if you need more cut grab a more aggressive pad or tweak speed,passes,pressure.
StealthXJ
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Question regarding tools. Like anything else, I research the heck out of something before I buy. Now, I can get a GG 6" 10ft cord polisher from Advance with coupons and all for right at $100. If you were me, would you go ahead and buy it? Also, I am the type of guy that loves making stuff and working on things. With that said, I am also very tempted to buy the HF polisher, grease it up and change a few things and go to town. Worth it?
I also would like to build my own pad washer, per the guide on here. First, wouldn't. It work just as well to place a few grit guards inside a bucket, barely fill it above the guard and use it that way? Is the pumping of the water from the bottom really that important?
Last question regarding air tools. I will be working out of my Jeep, so space is limited, but could I use a small air compressor to power a 2-3" orbital polisher efficiently?
I also would like to build my own pad washer, per the guide on here. First, wouldn't. It work just as well to place a few grit guards inside a bucket, barely fill it above the guard and use it that way? Is the pumping of the water from the bottom really that important?
Last question regarding air tools. I will be working out of my Jeep, so space is limited, but could I use a small air compressor to power a 2-3" orbital polisher efficiently?
TTQ B4U
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This. I completely agree on the quality of the products. I regularly use HD adapt and HD speed. I continue to be blown away by the results.
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