Burning through paint? what is this?

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While polishing today after doing 6 section passes I lifted up the pad to see red residue on the pad. I was using a green polishing pad and the car is red. So I know that is one sign you have burned through the paint. But I know I did not burn through it. Seeing that the finish of the paint was perfectly clear. The car is a 2008 GMC Acadia. First time ever being polished too. Also I was using a PC 7424XP.
Feed back please
 
Kind of odd on a newer car like that, but chances are the paint you were working on was single stage (base coat only, no clear coat). Is the whole car like that or just one section? If it is just one section, that area may have been repainted. But yeah, what you are describing is typical of single stage paints. Nothing to get excited about.
 
A lot of cars nowadays have tinted clear. Is it possible that is the case? Sometimes the vehicle gets damaged in transit from the factory to the dealership and the dealership does in house paint repairs. Is it possible that this is the case? Maybe the thing was repainted all together at one time. Is it possible that this is the case?
 
I thought the single stage paints were only on older vehicles. I know it hasn't been repainted though. I'm not worried since I'm not using any compounds. Just polishes. Thanks for the help though!
 
tuscarora dave said:
A lot of cars nowadays have tinted clear. Is it possible that is the case? Sometimes the vehicle gets damaged in transit from the factory to the dealership and the dealership does in house paint repairs. Is it possible that this is the case? Maybe the thing was repainted all together at one time. Is it possible that this is the case?
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That might be. But like I said, I know it hasn't been repainted. Lol.
 
rider9195 said:
While polishing today after doing 6 section passes I lifted up the pad to see red residue on the pad. I was using a green polishing pad and the car is red. So I know that is one sign you have burned through the paint. But I know I did not burn through it. Seeing that the finish of the paint was perfectly clear. The car is a 2008 GMC Acadia. First time ever being polished too. Also I was using a PC 7424XP.
Feed back please
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Look in the glove box for the paint code. It should be:

BC/CC ....followed by a U. If so, IMO, you should have a better handle on what may have happened.

If not, it's single stage...but I doubt that for an '08 Acadia.

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Look in the glove box for the paint code. It should be:

BC/CC followed by a U. If so, IMO, you should have a better handle on what may have happened.

If not, it's single stage...but I doubt that for an '08 Acadia.

Bob
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Just checked, and it did say BC/CC. Thanks Bob!
 
rider9195 said:
Just checked, and it did say BC/CC. Thanks Bob!
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Any time. :)

In your opinion, after your diagnosis/observation, what do you believe has happened? I hope what ever it is, it's nothing serious.

Good luck!

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Any time. :)

In your opinion, after your diagnosis/observation, what do you believe has happened? I hope what ever it is, it's nothing serious.

Good luck!

Bob
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I have only done the hood, so I know what pads and products I need to use to get it perfect. But I think Dave might be right about the tinted clear coat. I'm not using any compounds so I don't have to worry as much.
 
With a green pad and just polish on a PC it sounds a lot like tinted clear. how red is it? Can you post a pic of the pad?
 
Tinted clears are colors that require tri-coats. Meaning the first would be the base color, then tinted clear, then clear alone. I dont believe any car manufacture dosent apply just clear alone over the tinted clear.
 
M.P. Cobra Fan said:
With a green pad and just polish on a PC it sounds a lot like tinted clear. how red is it? Can you post a pic of the pad?
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I agree. The whole face of the pad was red. But it did clean up very good using my pad washer. So it must be a tinted clear. But I will post a picture tomorrow of the pad once I get polishing.
 
93fox said:
Tinted clears are colors that require tri-coats. Meaning the first would be the base color, then tinted clear, then clear alone. I dont believe any car manufacture dosent apply just clear alone over the tinted clear.
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Very interesting information. Learned some new things today!
 
93fox said:
Tinted clears are colors that require tri-coats. Meaning the first would be the base color, then tinted clear, then clear alone. I dont believe any car manufacture dosent apply just clear alone over the tinted clear.
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That's not right, GM has been doing tinted clears on reds as the topcoat, this came up years ago on another forum. Cadillac called it Radiant Red or something like that, and it's referred to as a tintcoat. I know you are a painter and you don't do it this way, but the way it's done at the factory is different than aftermarket.
 
his post got me a little worried too b/c I have tinted clear and got black on my pad after my first polishing with a white LC and power finish.

the tinted clear has got to be the outermost layer or that means I've gone through the untinted clear into my tinted!
 
Setec Astronomy said:
That's not right, GM has been doing tinted clears on reds as the topcoat, this came up years ago on another forum. Cadillac called it Radiant Red or something like that, and it's referred to as a tintcoat. I know you are a painter and you don't do it this way, but the way it's done at the factory is different than aftermarket.
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Agreed. In the case of this '08 Acadia I believe the color will be Red Jewel Tintcoat and yes, that color will probably have a tinted clear as its topcoat. Not really something to worry about per se, just something to be aware of.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
That's not right, GM has been doing tinted clears on reds as the topcoat, this came up years ago on another forum. Cadillac called it Radiant Red or something like that, and it's referred to as a tintcoat. I know you are a painter and you don't do it this way, but the way it's done at the factory is different than aftermarket.
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Hmm i didnt know that. Its kind of leaving the tint exposed huh? It would be more ideal to work on the actual clear rather than on the tint. I sure didnt know they released them out like that.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Agreed. In the case of this '08 Acadia I believe the color will be Red Jewel Tintcoat and yes, that color will probably have a tinted clear as its topcoat. Not really something to worry about per se, just something to be aware of.
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:iagree:

Also, the other color "red" for the '08 Acadia was Dark Crimson Metallic.

@ OP:Once again, you may want revisit the glove box and list the entire paint code. That would greatly assist this forum's members in assisting you. :)

Perhaps it may look something like this?: BC/CC .....80U for JTC; and, BC/CC....66U for DCM, or, you tell us.:D (A number before the "U" ?). This also means more $$$$:wow:

But as Charlie has stated, it's more than likely the JTC, and it is wise to be aware that these paints exist...IMO, one can better gauge that they are taking/abrading an amount of the top-coat. Remember it's very thin also!

Bob
 
It is possible that it could have been a dealer touchup/repaint of a damaged panel... a firefighter I work with had started waxing the hood of his 2009 Dodge Ram after the 90 day body shop recommended waiting period (a falling tree branch had caused the damage) with Meg's cleaner wax and he called me to come look at it, as his towel he was using to remove the wax was coming up blue. I told him to stop until I got there..

The body shop had apparently repainted the hood with a single stage paint, and did a crappy job of it, as it was starting to peel in spots from improper preparation! :eek:
 
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