Can DG #105 and Aqua Wax be put on in layers??

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I just used DG #105 and Aqua Wax for the first time on my the wifes 2007 Titanium Metalic Silver Camry.I had been using Zaino,...But I gotta say I like the looks of 105 and Aqua Wax Better !! :awesome: Very wet look!! I would post pic's but it is pouring rain out now .I was just wondering if any of you that have used 105 or AW have tried to layer it? I'm going to do a 2001 Millenium Yellow Corvette this weekend and going to try 105 x2 then AW. also has anyone ever topped this combo with a paste wax? I didn't mean to put the unhappy face on this post either
 
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This is how I done my truck. The first day #105 around 11:00. The next morning around 7:00 #951, that night around 8:00 done #105. The next day #951. Talk about beautiful!

I wash with #901 about every 2 weeks, dry with Supreme Guzzler and leaf blower and use #951....... She stays looking beautiful....

The main thing is wait 24 hours between coats of #105......Do it as you see fit.
Hey, give us some pics when you can....
 
Thanks for the Info.I will try that. I will take pic's when I can .Right now it is raining so hard you can barely see. been that way for 2days
 
Duragloss Total Performance Polish is a cleaner and polish in one that improves and protects the paint surface for an incredibly durable finish. The tough, synthetic coating stands up to harsh environmental conditions such as pollution, acid rain, intense sun, sap, and bird droppings. The durable finish protects paint for up to one year.


from the description, this would suggest otherwise. Like NXT, the second level is likely either chemically or abrasively removing/reducing the previous level. This is not a pure sealant.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
Duragloss Total Performance Polish is a cleaner and polish in one that improves and protects the paint surface for an incredibly durable finish. The tough, synthetic coating stands up to harsh environmental conditions such as pollution, acid rain, intense sun, sap, and bird droppings. The durable finish protects paint for up to one year.


from the description, this would suggest otherwise. Like NXT, the second level is likely either chemically or abrasively removing/reducing the previous level. This is not a pure sealant.
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That may be but I have also read where al53 has had great results with 105 X2 as well. It might just have merit beyond what the label says.
 
richy said:
That may be but I have also read where al53 has had great results with 105 X2 as well. It might just have merit beyond what the label says.
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true, but alot of car detailing comes down to personal perception versus actuality or scientific proof. Maybe it looked better because it cleaned better the second time, or had less to clean :confused:
 
wow this name stuff gets confusing, so the 105 is a cleaner, polish, AND sealant? pretty much like a xmt 360 kinda deal? Man they need to start calling polishes polishes, cleaners cleaners, and all in ones... well you get my point...
 
Thunder79 said:
I just used DG #105 and Aqua Wax for the first time on my the wifes 2007 Titanium Metalic Silver Camry.I had been using Zaino,...But I gotta say I like the looks of 105 and Aqua Wax Better !! :awesome: Very wet look!! I would post pic's but it is pouring rain out now .I was just wondering if any of you that have used 105 or AW have tried to layer it? I'm going to do a 2001 Millenium Yellow Corvette this weekend and going to try 105 x2 then AW. also has anyone ever topped this combo with a paste wax? I didn't mean to put the unhappy face on this post either
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Why not just use Aquawax after every wash to rejuvenate the look of #105?
 
The Chemist at DG said once 105 is cured another coat of 105 will not remove it ..I was also told that 3 coats is max or you may get diminishing results..meaning color muting..........the cleaner is very very mild..it is just to ensure the surface is clean of any type of fallout that a wash did not remove...98% of all sealants have a solvent carrier..a solvent is a cleaner...waxes have solvents also...so in reality if you add a wax over a sealant does it remove your sealant...101 would not layer...or 501 marine....both are strong cleaners....105 would not take off road marking paint...101 did....

Al
 
Al-53 said:
The Chemist at DG said once 105 is cured another coat of 105 will not remove it ..I was also told that 3 coats is max or you may get diminishing results..meaning color muting..........the cleaner is very very mild..it is just to ensure the surface is clean of any type of fallout that a wash did not remove...98% of all sealants have a solvent carrier..a solvent is a cleaner...waxes have solvents also...so in reality if you add a wax over a sealant does it remove your sealant...101 would not layer...or 501 marine....both are strong cleaners....105 would not take off road marking paint...101 did....

Al
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Any idea how long it takes to fully cure in order to add another layer?
 
for the full cure I would wait 12 minimum...24 tops....Humid weather takes longer..so that would be 24 hours....warm and dry I would wait 12 at least....

AL
 
Instead of layering the 105 you could also use DG#101 first and then DG#105 after, and put the AW on next day or after next wash. (the 101 cleans the paint great)

3rd option is the DG bonding agent first then the 105
 
AH ... there once was a little product coming to market called NXT. A little man named Mike P said it could be layered. After visiting the MSDS sheet and finding a little product called calcified kaolin he would not budge. His offer was still the same. I suppose his magical cleaner could tell and skip areas already protected by his sealant. Finally, after much ado about nothing he admitted we were true. It either has cleaners nor it doesnt, it either has abrasives nor it doesnt, and that under scrunity it was likely to remove some/all the previous layer.

Why do I say this .... because it does or it doesnt. Personal perception is all that matters. I prefer the truth, and if one coat is more than enough then so be it, less work. I would much rather place effort on a booster (say AW) at each wash cycle then to build or enhance looks and protection.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
AH ... there once was a little product coming to market called NXT. A little man named Mike P said it could be layered. After visiting the MSDS sheet and finding a little product called calcified kaolin he would not budge. His offer was still the same. I suppose his magical cleaner could tell and skip areas already protected by his sealant. Finally, after much ado about nothing he admitted we were true. It either has cleaners nor it doesnt, it either has abrasives nor it doesnt, and that under scrunity it was likely to remove some/all the previous layer.

Why do I say this .... because it does or it doesnt. Personal perception is all that matters. I prefer the truth, and if one coat is more than enough then so be it, less work. I would much rather place effort on a booster (say AW) at each wash cycle then to build or enhance looks and protection.
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:iagree: Perhaps using a polycharger would be a better idea instead of 2 layers of DG #105.
 
dontsleeponit said:
wow this name stuff gets confusing, so the 105 is a cleaner, polish, AND sealant? pretty much like a xmt 360 kinda deal? Man they need to start calling polishes polishes, cleaners cleaners, and all in ones... well you get my point...
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#101 is more like #360 both has strong chemical cleaners. #105 has a very mild cleaner and you can layer it. I have done this on a few vehicles.
You need to use one of these polishes first before using #105. They are #101, XMT360, or klasse AIO. This is so that #105 has an area to bond too.
You can forgo polish by using #601.
To keep your paint finish looking great, use #951 after washes......
 
the DG 601 bonding agent will only give the 105 (or lsp) a better durability if thats the goal.

But would it be a point doing:

101 + 601 + 105?
 
Truls said:
the DG 601 bonding agent will only give the 105 (or lsp) a better durability if thats the goal.

But would it be a point doing:

101 + 601 + 105?
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No need for #601 if using 101 first IMO. I have read that #601 will give #105 more durability.
 
I have used AL's 101 then 105 x3 on the last three vehicles I have done. The look is awesome. I usually will wait 24hrs between the 101 and the first coat of 105. After the first coat of 105 I will wait a few days. So are we to believe the 105 resists acid rain but a second coat of its self after it has cured will remove the first coat? I will leave the chemical debates to the chemists and I will just do what looks the best for my cars. I have even gone so far as to wait 2 weeks and throw a coat of IW 845 on top, and if that does not have solvents in it I dont know what does, I sure wouldnt smoke while putting it on.

Enjoy the wekeend fellas,

Bags
 
Bags said:
I have used AL's 101 then 105 x3 on the last three vehicles I have done. The look is awesome. I usually will wait 24hrs between the 101 and the first coat of 105. After the first coat of 105 I will wait a few days. So are we to believe the 105 resists acid rain but a second coat of its self after it has cured will remove the first coat? I will leave the chemical debates to the chemists and I will just do what looks the best for my cars. I have even gone so far as to wait 2 weeks and throw a coat of IW 845 on top, and if that does not have solvents in it I dont know what does, I sure wouldnt smoke while putting it on.

Enjoy the wekeend fellas,

Bags
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845 has no cleaning properties and therefore can be layered.. or at least that's what I have been told.

I stick with Killrwheels, if a product has cleaning agents in it I will not layer it.

Although it may look good, I think the perceived improvement is cerebral.
 
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I talked to the chemist at Duragloss and was told to wait 12 to 24 hours depending on the temp and humidity between coats.
Like AL-53 said 105 can be layered and with two layers on my Ranger I went 14 months before redoing it and it really did not need it then.
I keep my Ranger in a garage when not in use so I think I could get two years from 105.
The original poster ask if you can use a wax over 105. YES you can but then you would need to use 601 again before applying 105 because it will not last as long over wax. When the wax comes off the 105 would come off with it.
I just use the AW over it then you have no problems.
 
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