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I just bought a '00 black Lexus GS300 last week and there are a couple of areas I want to fix in terms of the paint. Specifically, there are deep scratches by the fuel door.


I don't know what happened here, but can this be fixed without respraying the quarter panel?

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I did, however, just order my PC7424XP kit that comes with some swirl removal and finishing polish. Not nearly aggressive enough product, I know...but I figured I'll be adding to the arsenal soon. Any product recommendations? I do realize that if compounding doesnt work, I may need to get touch up paint and level it off.


Thanks in advance,

Craig
 
That patch area kind of looks like the clear is missing? If you rub on it with a paint cleaner do you pull black pigment?

You can't always remove a below surface defect but you can often times improve a below surface defect to the point where it's less noticeable and you can live with it versus having it repainted.

Kind of depends upon how important the appearance of the car is to you.

:)
 
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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
That patch area kind of looks like the clear is missing? If you rub on it with a paint cleaner do you pull black pigment?

You can't always remove a below surface defect but you can often times improve a below surface defect to the point where it's less noticeable and you can live with it versus having it repainted.

Kind of depends upon how important the appearance of the car is to you.

:)
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Mike, if the clear is gone in that area, what can he do?
 
Thanks for the responses guys.

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
That patch area kind of looks like the clear is missing? If you rub on it with a paint cleaner do you pull black pigment?

You can't always remove a below surface defect but you can often times improve a below surface defect to the point where it's less noticeable and you can live with it versus having it repainted.

Kind of depends upon how important the appearance of the car is to you.

:)
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Appearance is VERY important to me but I can live with a workaround for the time being. I havent rubbed any paint cleaner on the area yet.

Superdutytd said:
M105!
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I've been looking into the M105/M205 combination. Do you think that would get it looking decent enough?

Superdutytd said:
Haha no secret weapons of systems from me! I have *heard* *not used* about this as about as good of a paint scratch/rock chip fix as you are going to get. LANGKA Paint Chip and Scratch Repair Its not easy but I guess it works pretty good.
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Hmm. Not easy? The website says that even a child could do it. :) sounds to be right up my alley! I'll definitely look into that product. Thank you.
 
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I cannot tell exactly, But the patch area beside his shorts looks like a reflection. It stops where his shorts reflection starts. Is that the patch area that is deemed suspect of clear coat missing?
 
belcherm58 said:
I cannot tell exactly, But the patch area beside his shorts looks like a reflection. It stops where his shorts reflection starts. Is that the patch area that is deemed suspect of clear coat missing?
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This is the patch I was referring to,

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It's hard to tell but it kind of looks like someone has scuffed that area with something and removed the clear layer of paint. Rubbing on top of it with any white polish and a white cloth would tell you in 3 seconds if the clear was missing because you would see black pigment on the cloth. No pigment and then that would mean it's something else.

When you burn through, or strike-through, or go through, (however you want to say it), the clear layer, it usually starts out as a small area and as you remove more and more of the clear the small area becomes a patch that grows and grows as you remove the clear.

There is no easy way to fix it except to have the area re-sprayed. If you try to apply clear paint on top of it with the idea of somehow sanding the area smooth and the polishing out your sanding marks you'll just make the area worse and worse. Better to just live with it. Again, can't tell from the picture but the owner could do a quick test and confirm.

:)
 
That was the area I was referring to. I could not tell if that was a reflection or as you stated, damage.
 
Oh I see what you guys are looking at now. That light spot in the blue box is actually a reflection. I dont remember what was on my neighbors lawn but thats what is showing in my paint. Sorry for the confusion!

I'm referring to the light colored scratches between the gas door and the top of the wheel well.
 
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that looks more like a drain in the grass in the reflection more than a scuff...

just use a sharpie and fill in the scratches!! jk.
 
synsei said:
Oh I see what you guys are looking at now. That light spot in the blue box is actually a reflection. I dont remember what was on my neighbors lawn but thats what is showing in my paint. Sorry for the confusion!

I'm referring to the light colored scratches between the gas door and the top of the wheel well.
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If your finger nail catches in these scratches, I would suggest the Langka chip and scratch repair kit and touch up paint for that particular car color. I have used this kit and when done correctly gives a nice repair. If your finger nail does
not catch, simply buff them out.:buffing:
 
My fingernail definitely catches. Actually I could probably lay my whole body down inside those scratches. LOL. I'll try the Lanka product. I really appreciate everyones input and putting up with the new guy.:xyxthumbs:
 
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Just want to add. Anytime you see the base coat in a scratch, Buffing
it out is impossible. You can round the edges of the scratch to make it
less noticeable, but not invisible. The Langka kit and touch up paint is
the way to go. Good luck.
 
belcherm58 said:
Just want to add. Anytime you see the base coat in a scratch, Buffing
it out is impossible. You can round the edges of the scratch to make it
less noticeable, but not invisible. The Langka kit and touch up paint is
the way to go. Good luck.
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Ahh. Got it. Which leads me to ask another question. I recently read that my paint code 202 is a single stage paint. I know...single stage in this day and age? Do I need to treat it differently than a bc/cc?

Superdutytd said:
Do some before and after pics of the Langka kit!
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Wilco.
 
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Just wetsand the area and take a wool pad and cut and then polish.... should be able to remove 75-80% of all the defects... Remember when wetsanding, do not just wetsand the scratches or you will create a "valley" in the clearcoat. It is kind of like blending in paint per say.... so you will need to wet sand the whole area.
 
And justg because you can "feel" the scratch does not mean its impossible to take out. I am sure you can "blend" those in so well that an average person will never notice there were scratches ever there...
 
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