CanCoat Application Problems

Desertnate, I think your initial post could have been written by me after my first application. Welcome to my world! Having used sealants for so long, I am a bit heavy handed in applications. I checked with BudgetMan and Guz and they taught me it should be applied very thin. I now use The Guz's method of spraying a MF block pad. Two sprays for the first use, then believe it or not, just one spray on the pad for the next few sections. I do 18 x 18 inch sections, maybe 24 x 24. Then I immediately gently wipe / buff the area with a fresh MF towel until all grabby-ness is gone and it is slick. Rotate the pad out every few sections. I used to apply Collinite as thin as humanly possible. At least that was my goal. I try and do the same with CanCoat. I can get 8 sedans done per Can. If your Can was only 1/2 full, the mailman stole some from you or else you had a leak in shipment. My cans are 90% full when new.
 
Thanks!

Interesting to hear everyone had much more product in their bottle. I don't think I had a leak because the lid was on tight and it made a hissing noise when I broke the seal.

Either way, I'll fix the problems and give it a try again on a different can in a few weeks.
 
Marc Hufnagel said:
Link to your preferred MF block?
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Something like this will work

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The Guz said:
The temp and humidity play a factor as well.

I think you realized by now that using more product is not good. As Jeff pointed out this has a fast flash time.

I've used a towel and a microfiber applicator to apply it. The microfiber applicator is much better in terms of control and in my experience laying down a much more even layer. Again you don't need to overly spray the applicator. The downside is that you will go through a couple of these depending on the size of the vehicle as the pad becomes saturated and the product cures on it after a few panels. The microfiber blocks are what I use with CanCoat and don't have any issues.

As Jeff mentioned working fast with it is key and have the towel in the other hand ready to wipe off after a couple passes. Good lighting is always helpful.
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I did my first vehicle with CanCoat this weekend after a complete polish. I've watched the Gyeon video on Autogeek a couple of times, but struggled using a microfiber towel to apply it. My problem was not being able to spray an even mist across the towel, and couldn't seem to get complete coverage on the paint (or see that I was getting coverage on my white paint). So I gave up the towel after the roof and did the rest of the van with the same micro-fiber covered sponge that The Guz is talking about. I could cover the surface of the sponge with 1 or 2 sprays, apply evenly to the paint, and then immediately buff out with another soft micro-fiber cloth. That seemed to work great, and I could verify the micro-fiber sponge was applying product evenly. I waited 4 hours and then applied Cure as a topper.
 
It's worth mentioned that the white towel type thing that it comes with is actually really good at applying the Cancoat, followed by a quick buff with a plush MF.
 
RZJZA80 said:
It's worth mentioned that the white towel type thing that it comes with is actually really good at applying the Cancoat, followed by a quick buff with a plush MF.
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I noticed they shipped it with the order I just received, but my first order for can coat did not come with one

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Cancoat is a real product game changer you can apply a coating to you car every 6 months and it will hang with the big boys for at a minimum of 6 months. It is perfect for people that love coating and love touching their cars. I will start with a list of dont that I found out the hard sweat drenched way and throbbing shoulder joint. Do not attempt to apply like a normal coating or you will be in agony trying to get this super glue off your paint. Also do not try to pour it out of the bottle or your shoes will be waterproof. Thin is in don’t apply heavy and don’t top it. The sprayers don’t work past their intial outings.

Here is my list of do’s .....Follow the direction!!!!and you will fall in love wic the product it’s my favorite detailing product once I started spraying into the cloth provided and going thin I think I easily got 8 cars out of first bottle. I put it on trim wheels my bathtub, toilet all kinds of stainless
 
I still have the original sprayer for mine and it is still working. I have flushed it out with hot water for a few minutes with constant pumping.

I also got 11 months out of CanCoat using it in conjunction with Gyeon Primer Polish here in So Cal. It’s pretty much done on the flat surfaces and still decently good on the sides.
 
I clean the spayers with Denatured alcohol and they stay clear without issue. I actually use the small bottles and sprayers from the CURE product that comes with the Syncro kits.
 
I looked at the sds sheet on CanCoat. One of the carriers is ipa 10-20%. So think that you can flush the sprayer with that first and then rinse it out with water and prefered hot water as Guz mentioned.
 
UPDATE! Life finaly calmed down enough for me to take a couple minutes this weekend to correct a couple of the most obvious high spots and problem areas from my initial application.

I'm happy to report the touchups were a resounding success and I didn't have any of the problems encountered the first time. I used a thin, low knap MF towel and a couple of spritzes of product into the towel. From there I simple wiped down the area I fixed and then quickly fliped the towel and lightly buffed it out. There were no issues with streaking, flashing etc and it all blended right in with the areas from the initial application.

A word of warning: Clean the threads on the can after removing the spray head and before retuning the metal cap. I apperently didn't do this the first time and it took a set of large pliers to break the cap loose.
 
Last update, but I felt it would be a good idea to give this thread some closure with a whole vehicle application in the event someone finds this thread in the future.

I applied CanCoat to my wife's vehicle yesterday, and using the advice provided it turned out flawless. One quick pick. Rain ruined the chance of a full sun picture.

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Good work Desertnate, glad it worked out ok !

Jeff, is there a need to throw the MF towels away after applying/buffing off the product ie does it harden on the MF cloth if it is not washed immediately ?
 
stylo said:
Good work Desertnate, glad it worked out ok !

Jeff, is there a need to throw the MF towels away after applying/buffing off the product ie does it harden on the MF cloth if it is not washed immediately ?
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I am not Jeff but it will indeed harden on application towels or applicators. I typically use a microfiber applicator to apply and just toss it. The next time I use CanCoat I will see if I can salvage the applicator.
 
Hi 'not Jeff' :)

The buff MF cloth washed out OK but the MF cloth used to apply it still stunk of the product after a good soak with microfibre wash.

Just worried that it may crystalise like the MOHS and scratch upon next use.
 
I forgot about a Gyeon Polishwipe towel I used to apply CanCoat once; found it about 2 days later and it was somewhat hardened and 'crispy'.
 
I’ve only been doing one coat and it works great are u guys doing 1 or 2 coats. It seems like it would probably be a good product to use two coats just to make sure u hit every inch. They give u so much it’s such a great gem of a product
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
I forgot about a Gyeon Polishwipe towel I used to apply CanCoat once; found it about 2 days later and it was somewhat hardened and 'crispy'.
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This is a good enough reason for me to throw out the cloths. Thanks.
 
To add some perspective, my CanCoat towels do indeed become very crispy and hard the following day, while my Cquartz towels do not at all. I toss all of them anyway, but i found that to be interesting.
 
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