Carpro Ech2o vs Uber... Same or different

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So I use D114 but like a few out there, I find it grabby. I'll still keep it for when I need plain leaves nothing behind wipe down. But looking for something to use via Garry Dean method for rinseless washes.

I see Uber a lot but what about Carpro Ech2o? Is one better than the other? Don't they both leave protection behind or no?

It's going to be washing a M37 coated vehicle and most likely also a WDGPS vehicle too.
 
Different. I use both. I use ECH20 mixed with Reload as a detail spray. Excellent and does great over M37. Haven't really used it as a rinseless or waterless as I don't need to use/waste that much of it up-front when I can use it after uber rinseless.

Yes, Uber leaves something behind but not the Si02 nano ceramic that ECH20 does.
 
So what would benefit as an all around? Like I said I want something that leaves something behind, slick and can be used in multiple platforms. Although the vehicles it'll be used on will already have protection. I fel like if i leave something little here and there, it all helps

I wonder the safety of the SiO2 on bare hands every two weeks or so... I don't wear gloves and it has me thinking
 
I always where gloves anytime I'm doing anything with my cars cleaning wise. Not just for safety but also because all that stuff plays havoc on my skin/hands drying them out, etc.

If you're looking for something that leaves the surface slick and plays with a coated car, ECH20 is your product. I still stand by what I said in that you can use it as a Rinseless or Waterless but for me I use Wolfgang Uber for that and ECH20 as my detail spray after.
 
Yeah price is higher on it versus the Uber. So I may have answered my own question. I may get Uber then hit it with aqua wax afterwards or Sonax BSD.

I like how you can use Uber is a ton of other ways too.
 
How about McKees Rinse Free Wash & Wax.

Nick claims it's got the most protection for a rinseless I believe.

I hear Ultima's WW+ is good and can be used as a rinseless. I'm not sure about the other uses though.
 
I've used UWW+ before and like it. I'll check into McKees version
 
Protection wise and gloss I feel ech2o is the best bet, I've been using it alot more often then my Uber, I have also been trying to use up all my Uber to switch over to another dedicated soap but Uber goes along ways and has a ton of uses. So I kind of like having them both now.
Recently live been using ech2o as my rinseless wash go to and my Uber for Windows and Interior wipe down. Then once my gyeon shows up I'll be adding a few oz of that to my ech2o qd spray for a new mixture to add.

I do also use hydrofoam2 in rinseless for my new clients for Thier initial wash as well and do the maintenance washes with ech2o. The gloss has been very noticeable to my clients

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I have not used the Uber, but have used many products on coated paint to include Ech2o.
I have found it to work very well on three different coatings when used in all of its intended dilutions. The surface is very slick, and somehow the surface manages to look even better with a kick in gloss esp when you mix it as a detailer, with some reload, and I have heard and will trh Gyeon cure. It works so well, and looks great enough for me to not have any need to try anything else at this time. Very impressed and happy with Ech2o.
 
This would be a heavy weight fight for sure!

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Currently I am using WGURW for my go to rinseless washes. It's very slick and works well with my coatings -- in my experience. I really don't see how it changes the surface properties of my LSP.

I have also used ECH2O as a detail spray. Now, this does change at least m coatings. I have noticed tighter beading, but no changes in sheeting.

It'll be interesting to try ECH2O as a rinseless, but I have about 32 oz of WGURW left to use up.
 
I get busy with work and leave this place, then I come back and there's all these
New rinseless washes.... I can't keep up!
 
Reading this thread convinced me... I just ordered a 500ml. bottle of Carpro Ech2o.


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I like both products but have found myself reaching for Ech20 more lately. Both products are versatile but Ech20 really gives the paint a better look and seems to stay cleaner longer. Has anyone else noticed that the wash media cleans up better with the CarPro product?
 
How will this affect the absorbency of the MF towels or just the towels in general, since this product has SiO2 in it?
 
I thought of this also and for 3 months have used the same towels to check if the towels will be affected. I haven't seen any signs of degrading or change of towel charecteristics, full disclosure I wash the towels right after use just like I've done with other rinseless products
 
How will this affect the absorbency of the MF towels or just the towels in general, since this product has SiO2 in it?

Ech2o will not have any adverse affects on towels, just wash as you normally would.
 
For those of you using Ech20 with Reload after washing, what's the reasoning for this vs. using Reload alone? Cost? Or are you getting a better result with Ech20 at QD dilution with some Reload added? What ratio of Ech20 QD to Reload?
 
For those of you using Ech20 with Reload after washing, what's the reasoning for this vs. using Reload alone? Cost? Or are you getting a better result with Ech20 at QD dilution with some Reload added? What ratio of Ech20 QD to Reload?

Saves time, one step. 2:20 Ech2o and 2 oz. Reload. BTW I use this as a waterless wash, not after a wash, although you could use it as a QD.
 
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