caution re: well known detailers

Looks like I'm going to have to re-read this from the beginning.
 
Gosh...

Does the respect for each other's nociceptors:
no longer exist? :(

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Gosh...

Does the respect for each other's nociceptors:
no longer exist? :(

Bob
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Doesn't look like it Bob......

but it seems to be the status quo around this time of the year.......and throw in a full moon it magnifies greatly.
 
Jean-Claude said:
Cardaddy/Tony

I've never had a thread shut down. The admins are pretty stinking good about shutting down threads that are trolling.

I did not reimburse you for the, what was it, $25...and I never will. You did not follow directions, were late and cost me $150 in labor when you did not do what I told you to. I told you the day that I paid you for your labor that I did not feel you were worth the $150 I was paying you and that you cost me a lot of time and money because you made the choice to not follow specific instructions. -What I instructed was a 3 step with compound, med. cut polish and a finish down with a fine polish. What you did was yellow pad with 101 and then straight to a fine polish...leaving me with haze to clean up. Beyond this, I told you not to work upper areas, but rather, to work only the lower panels because I worked all upper areas that customers see as the most important areas. -What did you do? Work upper areas with the wrong process of course.

Your excuse held no water because you should have called me when you had a question but you didn't. I had a compressor 50' away. We were supposed to go over all the needed equipment for the day before I left for another job, but you were about 30 minutes late if I remember correctly. I had a 1 hour 20 minute drive, without Atlanta traffic(and I had it with leaving 30 minutes late), to navigate and you were late. I had to leave and work with the situation. You did not communicate, pick up phone calls I made to you through the day until I texted you that you to specifically call me. Dude, I have the whole text conversation on my phone. I have your excuse for being late, me telling you that we would have to go into further detail about the project after you show up over the phone because you were late, I have you trying to justify doing your own thing and me telling, no, do it the way I am asking you to and then me telling you to call me(after I called you many times and never got you but you still being able to text me...) -and how did it end? You STILL did it your way after my text messages and the phone conversation where I told you to stop and do it my way.

I shouldn't have been surprised and I should have cut you loose earlier really. You trying to give away 10 minute "engine details" or my constantly having to redirect you to do what I was paying you to do and not what you wanted to do was a regular theme in the short time you worked with me.

You were brought on as a contractor and assistant and worked for me for 2 weeks. In 2 weeks you managed to ignore my instructions so much that I finally had enough and decided to not call you to help anymore. Really, that's a nice way of saying you were fired.

Before you were brought on I told you, and you agreed, to not share any images online of projects you work on for me. What did you do? You took at least one picture and then posted it. You acted like you were above telling people the details of who it was you were talking crap about but inferred everything you needed to to let people know it was my company. To the point that someone else who had nothing to do with the situation used it as ammunition against me. And here, now, you are telling people to pm you. It's laughable that you believe your honorable in all of this.

Walmart towels? lol -dude, I still tell people there is nothing wrong with using Walmart towels as long as the edges are folded away. Do we still use them? No. But not because they don't work safely. We use brand new edgeless towels for every correction job now because we don't have to fold edges. There's no shame in my game. You get hung up small single details that are outside of context and harp on them non-stop. You still harp on Walmart towels and the $25 that I rightly did not pay you for. Are you going to pay me back for the $150 in lost labor? You had the opportunity to come back and work for free to make me whole and you didn't because you had another person paying you for a detail. In our conversation, you admitted that you made poor choices that day, yet you would not man up and make me whole. You can't see the forest for the trees man. This is why I stopped calling you. The actual amount of money does not matter. $150 or $25 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. But the lack of integrity of you not standing behind the choice to do things your way and it costing me money does matter. I'm not even able to freely express my frustration from the situation with you.

Being delusional about the last day you worked for me is on par. Michael, who also worked for me during the time you did, continued working for me that summer, the summer of 2014 and will be back 2015. Tim, a different person, has been with me full-time since September 2013 and is working out wonderfully. He is making good money, can be trusted to do full jobs and listens. I have another guy that worked for me a few years ago coming back soon. None of theses people, nor myself, are perfect. And yet, they are a productive part of the company. You are not a part of it, not because of your choice to not accept work, but because I was done with you. Since then, it has been sour grapes and you hanging onto this.

Focus on your own business and it will probably grow to the point that you don't have time to look for opportunities to share your skewed story of being "ripped off for $25" with Autogeek.
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hahahahaha, who are you?

this is great.

OH, i see. shoot i missed some posts. a beef with another member. hey that's cool - hash it out guys.
 
ugh, edit time limit up already. still unsure why that's even in place. i was staff for years on one of the most popular automotive forums on the web and never saw a reason to have edit time limits.

anyway, for those who are just seeing this thread:

i was conned and lied to by this dude in West Chester, PA. his operation damaged two brand new cars of mine. initially i started this thread as a general warning about the sort of stuff i went through and to just do your homework to hopefully prevent it from happening to you.

apparently another user was commenting on my situation, using some issues he's had with another dude to help make a point...and the guy on the other side of THAT situation showed up in here and replied. he bumped the thread with his post.

i have no problem with things being hashed out, but i just want to make sure you guys keep it civil so this thread doesn't get locked. i want to be able to add information as necessary about my situation, info that might help guide others seeking professionals for things like detailing, film work...even tint. whatever.
 
builthatch said:
hahahahaha, who are you?

this is great.

OH, i see. shoot i missed some posts. a beef with another member. hey that's cool - hash it out guys.
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I've got nothing for him in terms of 'hashing it out'. I won't argue with him or debate the issue because I tried to resolve it well over a year ago and it was like debating a brick wall. Nothing got through and this story gets brought up every few months no matter the facts.

I wish him the best in his personal life and for his family. But the business relationship is toast and I won't argue with him because it's a waste of effort.
 
Jean-Claude said:
I've got nothing for him in terms of 'hashing it out'. I won't argue with him or debate the issue because I tried to resolve it well over a year ago and it was like debating a brick wall. Nothing got through and this story gets brought up every few months no matter the facts.

I wish him the best in his personal life and for his family. But the business relationship is toast and I won't argue with him because it's a waste of effort.
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Then why do you come here and bring up old news?

usually by you.

But you continue to do so.

so which is it Jean Claude?

90% of your posts are show and shines which are good for you......but what have you done for the forum as a whole? NOTHING but pound your chest hey look at ME!!!
 
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