CCS Foam Pad from eBay: Fake, Imitation, Counterfeit?

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Hello everybody!

I just purchased a 4" foam pad that was advertised as "Lake Country 4 Inch Orange Cutting Foam Pad CCS" but through comparison to my 7" CCS orange foam pad, there are two things that are different:

1. the recess/dent holes is different. it's a ring not a dent, looks like someone put an imprint prior shipping instead of during the foam construction at the factory.
2. the color is slightly off, lighter.

Please see attachment. I stacked the 4" pad on top of the 7" pad.

Second photo is up-close of 4" pad
 
I don't know...the dent holes are pretty uniform. They may be a little different on the smaller pads...does the texture feel like the 7 inch pad?

Then there is the difference in the color too???
 
I didn't pay close attention to the feel of the foam.

It's actually not very uniform. Not sure if it suppose to happen but couple of the ring just turns flat when I rub it back and forth.

I want to see if any mod can chime in since they handle a lot of LC pads. I don't want to conclude anything yet.
 
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I want to see if any mod can chime in since they handle a lot of LC pads. I don't want to conclude anything yet.
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I'm sure if a mod chimes in he/she will tell you if you want a genuine LC pad, buy it from Autogeek, not from eBay.

These are manufactured items with tolerances, etc. Perhaps a different tool is used for the smaller pads, with different dimple definition, or perhaps it was more worn, or not at the same temperature, maybe the foam was a slightly different density (within tolerance).
 
I have a bunch of 5.5" and 4" CCS pads. As far as I can tell from the pics they look legit to me.
 
Are these with de-lamination issues like LC pads or any better?!
 
I bought it for under 6 bucks per 4" pad. I'll give it a try and see if those ring will be flatten out or not but i'm afraid it's going to happen. I mean, just by rubbing it last night, the ring is getting lost.
 
Those look legit, the holes on the larger pads differ a bit than the smaller ones.
 
I don't see why they would change the design just because the diameter is smaller. The stock photos on AG and their website appear to have the same CCS design with actual recess holes NOT rings.

Can someone show me a photo of their CCS 3" or 4"?
 
Well I have tested it out using M205 and works great like any other cheap foam pad out there. The foam pad turns pretty much flat, NO pocket/dent/dimples. can't imagine using more aggressive compound. I'll get a good photo tonight after I get home.

CONCLUSION: FAKE! That's not the worst part, look at my email printscreen. Not sure if that's true or not. I asked for the guy's handler but he hasn't reply for 3 days now.
 
I didn't realize there was a market for counterfeiting CCS pads...kind of seems like the market for counterfeiting $1 bills....WHO WOULD DO IT??

About 90% of the members here hate the CCS pads, so again...WHO WOULD DO IT?? 90% of the members will tell you that you're better off if the dimples came out because now you have a flat pad.

An orange Hydro-Tech pad costs...THE SAME as a CCS pad. They don't sell the flat 4" LC pads here, that I can find, but it looks like maybe you can get them for $1 less than the CCS elsewhere, I can't really see how anyone could make money trying to put dimples in a flat pad to sell it as a CCS pad.

Pads are consumable items, they wear out, they tear, they get dirty. As a disposable item, sometimes they aren't perfect. How many times have members had velcro come off, a pad tear, etc? So you got one with imperfect dimples...and? If you're worried about getting "fake" pads, don't buy them from eBay.

Sorry, but this thread is really getting on my nerves. And what does it have to do with Autogeek, anyway?
 
Those look real to me. The pads will flatten out over time from use. Maybe they were already used and not brand new.
 
^^I don't think you understand what I'm presenting here. There's a big market for car detailing and every dollar that the eBay guy cheat you out, he/she is screwing his/her competitor.

The thread is not important overall but it's the principal for the consumer and retailer. If it was very important I would've returned it but that would waste my time for the total $6 spent. This thread is not meant for me or anybody to be petty of $5-6 worth of product, but's to make awareness. Therefore, I'm not sure why it would get on anybody's nerve -- it could be that I only have a few post count, which is a typical credential stigma of online forum.

As far as Autogeek's involvement, I didn't conclude anything. I actually received that email a day PRIOR to the post of this thread. Whether my conclusion is correct or not, i'm just sharing my view.
 
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The poor low-light photo makes it look the same but one is a thin ring the other is a full depressed dimple. Anyways, let's move on!
SRTSean said:
Those look real to me. The pads will flatten out over time from use. Maybe they were already used and not brand new.
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Trey T said:
Well I have tested it out using M205 and works great like any other cheap foam pad out there. The foam pad turns pretty much flat, NO pocket/dent/dimples. can't imagine using more aggressive compound. I'll get a good photo tonight after I get home.

CONCLUSION: FAKE! That's not the worst part, look at my email printscreen. Not sure if that's true or not. I asked for the guy's handler but he hasn't reply for 3 days now.
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You say the pads work "great"; then conclude they are "fake" ???
Am I reading something wrong ???
 
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