Ceramic Pro Lite or Cquartz UK?

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has anyone used ceramic pro lite and have any comparisons it would be to cquartz?
 
Is this something you were going to install yourself OP?
 
i just started using Ceramic Pro Lite on wrapped cars, it is really easy to use. But.... it is a coating topper, it's designed to top 9H to increase shine and the hyrophobic properties of the coating. Cquartz UK will be a bit more durable and probably last longer.

this is from my limited experience with both products, others may have different opinions.
 
Matt@landrover said:
i just started using Ceramic Pro Lite on wrapped cars, it is really easy to use. But.... it is a coating topper, it's designed to top 9H to increase shine and the hyrophobic properties of the coating. Cquartz UK will be a bit more durable and probably last longer.



this is from my limited experience with both products, others may have different opinions.
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I found the opposite with Lite. Very difficult to apply over 9H, did not want to flash in the stated time, streaked terribly, then finally flashed. Did not have any high spots but using 4 towels per panel meant I was wasting a lot of money.

The owners of the vehicles I've done have not been impressed with the anti-fouling or ease of cleaning and the maintenance is one of the benefits I highlight. Another installer said this has happened to him and to just recoat. Sorry, but not wasting my time recoating especially at my cost for the product, nor am I going to just slap on Sport to temporarily cover what should be good to begin with. I recoated one with CQ at the owners request, the other owner is satisfied, just wanted better cleaning ability.

Also not finding it to be any more scratch resistant than CQ or others.

In most cases I would chalk this up to a bad batch and try another bottle, but as a 'pro' product that costs a lot compared to other options, I have a hard time giving it another chance when cheaper options work so well.

I also find your comment about UK being more durable interesting...doesn't CP give a 2 year warranty with just Lite installed?

As in your case, just my limited experience with it. Clearly others have had success with it.
 
Audios S6 said:
I found the opposite with Lite. Very difficult to apply over 9H, did not want to flash in the stated time, streaked terribly, then finally flashed. Did not have any high spots but using 4 towels per panel meant I was wasting a lot of money.

The owners of the vehicles I've done have not been impressed with the anti-fouling or ease of cleaning and the maintenance is one of the benefits I highlight. Another installer said this has happened to him and to just recoat. Sorry, but not wasting my time recoating especially at my cost for the product, nor am I going to just slap on Sport to temporarily cover what should be good to begin with. I recoated one with CQ at the owners request, the other owner is satisfied, just wanted better cleaning ability.

Also not finding it to be any more scratch resistant than CQ or others.

In most cases I would chalk this up to a bad batch and try another bottle, but as a 'pro' product that costs a lot compared to other options, I have a hard time giving it another chance when cheaper options work so well.

I also find your comment about UK being more durable interesting...doesn't CP give a 2 year warranty with just Lite installed?

As in your case, just my limited experience with it. Clearly others have had success with it.
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i have not installed 9H yet, so i can not comment on how Lite applies over it.

the OP asked about Lite vs CQ UK.

from my understanding when talking with the Ceramic Pro rep, there is no warranty on just Lite (the bottle starts, protects up to 24 months). they have packages that carry a warranty only if the customer follows the guide lines of caring for the coating.
 
Here is what I dont understand... Ceramic Pro has a "lifetime warranty" package. 4 layers of 9h, one layer of lite. If lite wears off in 2 years, now what happens? Loss of beading? Do they try to reapply that then?
 
7.3powerstroke said:
Here is what I dont understand... Ceramic Pro has a "lifetime warranty" package. 4 layers of 9h, one layer of lite. If lite wears off in 2 years, now what happens? Loss of beading? Do they try to reapply that then?
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Requires annual maintenance, else warranty is limited to 5 years.

Repair damage, recoat or refund upto $1000 whichever is the least expensive at sole discretion of CP.

Sending you a lengthy PM shortly, need to dig up a previous essay I wrote on it.
 
With a lifetime warranty, how is the failure determined? It has been said over and over that there is no way to actually determine if a coating, wax, or sealant is actually present on the surface of a vehicle. What exactly does the warranty cover?

For instance, with CQuartz Finest "This warranty states that Finest will not bubble, yellow, peel, or oxidize." Essentially guaranteeing the coating will not be visible or lead to visible issues... there is no mention of water beading/sheeting, lack of etching, etc. because we all know that water beading doesn't directly indicate protection and any product can and will scratch or etch if cared for improperly.

I've seen Ceramic Pro make a lot of pretty wild claims over the past couple of years, and I have never seen any specifics on their warranty program (nor have I investigated it), but I would be interested in learning more about how they can back up the "lifetime guarantee" for my own personal knowledge.

-Zach
 
zmcgovern45 said:
With a lifetime warranty, how is the failure determined? It has been said over and over that there is no way to actually determine if a coating, wax, or sealant is actually present on the surface of a vehicle. What exactly does the warranty cover?

For instance, with CQuartz Finest "This warranty states that Finest will not bubble, yellow, peel, or oxidize." Essentially guaranteeing the coating will not be visible or lead to visible issues... there is no mention of water beading/sheeting, lack of etching, etc. because we all know that water beading doesn't directly indicate protection and any product can and will scratch or etch if cared for improperly.

I've seen Ceramic Pro make a lot of pretty wild claims over the past couple of years, and I have never seen any specifics on their warranty program (nor have I investigated it), but I would be interested in learning more about how they can back up the "lifetime guarantee" for my own personal knowledge.

-Zach
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zmcgovern45 said:
With a lifetime warranty, how is the failure determined? It has been said over and over that there is no way to actually determine if a coating, wax, or sealant is actually present on the surface of a vehicle. What exactly does the warranty cover?

For instance, with CQuartz Finest "This warranty states that Finest will not bubble, yellow, peel, or oxidize." Essentially guaranteeing the coating will not be visible or lead to visible issues... there is no mention of water beading/sheeting, lack of etching, etc. because we all know that water beading doesn't directly indicate protection and any product can and will scratch or etch if cared for improperly.

I've seen Ceramic Pro make a lot of pretty wild claims over the past couple of years, and I have never seen any specifics on their warranty program (nor have I investigated it), but I would be interested in learning more about how they can back up the "lifetime guarantee" for my own personal knowledge.

-Zach
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this is why i am not fully on the band wagon for Ceramic Pro. i am a new installer for them, but with the material cost and processes that require 10+ coats i am considering sticking with Cquartz and applying to be able to apply Finest.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
With a lifetime warranty, how is the failure determined? It has been said over and over that there is no way to actually determine if a coating, wax, or sealant is actually present on the surface of a vehicle. What exactly does the warranty cover?

For instance, with CQuartz Finest "This warranty states that Finest will not bubble, yellow, peel, or oxidize." Essentially guaranteeing the coating will not be visible or lead to visible issues... there is no mention of water beading/sheeting, lack of etching, etc. because we all know that water beading doesn't directly indicate protection and any product can and will scratch or etch if cared for improperly.

I've seen Ceramic Pro make a lot of pretty wild claims over the past couple of years, and I have never seen any specifics on their warranty program (nor have I investigated it), but I would be interested in learning more about how they can back up the "lifetime guarantee" for my own personal knowledge.

-Zach
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If you read their warranty terms, as well as other coating warranties, they all read much like the image below....

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Very vague with lots of red tape. Typical warranty to deny coverage.
 
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