Ceramiclear Paints - Be Careful

Do you guys put these live broadcasts on you tube:buffing:
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Just to tag on...

I have a Mercedes-Benz coming up that has the factory Ceramiclear finish plus it's black and all swirled out.

Have pictures and will get to them as I can...


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Looking forward to this! in the meantime, I ordered some Menzerna SF4000 as you suggested and will try a test spot as soon as I get it.
 
tpr1634 said:
Do you guys put these live broadcasts on you tube:buffing:
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Yes.


Here's the link to the list of all the live broadcasts we've done showing a wide variety of car projects.

Just to note, because these are shot live, there is no script, all the way through each live broadcast I share lots of tips and techniques. Basically, as we're working through each car project, if the opportunity arises to share something you'll see me call to Yancy to bring the camera in and capture the tip or technique.


Autogeek's Thursday Night Live Broadcast YouTube Videos


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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Yes, at least some of them but just to note they work equally well on any paint system I've worked on.


I've invited Ken to bring his car to Autogeek for a Thursday Night Live Broadcast in February, it has a Ceramiclear finish, (I checked the paint code), and is in need of a little TLC

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Same color and paint that's on my 10 benz... I'll be looking forward to the video
 
Just tried Menzerna SF4000 with BuffnShine White Pad on my ceramiclear 07 Benz, one pass and I was able to remove about 99% of swirls. The deeper random scratches (RIDS) are still present. Might need to get more aggressive ?

 
desiz said:
Just tried Menzerna SF4000 with BuffnShine White Pad on my ceramiclear 07 Benz, one pass and I was able to remove about 99% of swirls. The deeper random scratches (RIDS) are still present. Might need to get more aggressive ?
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Unless it's a show car where you're being judged on paint perfection, 99% is pretty darn good. Chasing that last % just abrades away 99% of your perfectly good clearcoat.

Which B&S white did you use? I'm guessing the euro foam, but they have 3 white pads depending on size. One is a heavy cut, one is a fine polishing pad, and the euro foam is supposed to be right around the cut of the green open cell pad, maybe a little more aggressive.

If you used the euro foam, did you happen to compare it to the green open cell?
 
SR99 said:
Unless it's a show car where you're being judged on paint perfection, 99% is pretty darn good. Chasing that last % just abrades away 99% of your perfectly good clearcoat.

Which B&S white did you use? I'm guessing the euro foam, but they have 3 white pads depending on size. One is a heavy cut, one is a fine polishing pad, and the euro foam is supposed to be right around the cut of the green open cell pad, maybe a little more aggressive.

If you used the euro foam, did you happen to compare it to the green open cell?
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Good advice, yes you're right I'm probably going to leave as is and go with this method on the whole car unless the master / Mike has a better idea! :)

(Didn't have the green one)
White heavy polishing pad
Flat face for full surface contact.
Foam Type: European Prepolymer
Size: 5.5" x 1
 
Just to share..

I work on MBZ and BMW`s everyday at the shop. When I do any correction or swirl remover on any of these cars, most likely will try Meg`s correction kit first, WHY? because looks like the best quick good option to get the job done.
I have done several spot corrections on SL, E and C class I mean dealerships cars that got brought to us for fix this minor "imperfections" (that's how they call it)
Another product I use that works as well is M105 with LC orange or pink pad follow it by M205 with a white LC pad. It will depend on how bad the car is, actually I like to have just a few products that works so I don`t make my life so complicated.
I`m always behind the painters because they have less sense of a swirl free finish (at least at my shop) so my boss know I will take care of them after they send the car to me for final detailing and clean up.

I do found at the beginning working at the collision shop that these MBZ and BMW`s are not easy at all to correct and they take a good amount of time to get done properly. I`m not an expert like some of the guys here but asking and reading HERE!!! has improve my skills a lot.
I`m able to work on these types of paints everyday for about a month and a half now so all in this thread is really helpful to anyone!!! who works or take care of the ceramiclear technology.
 
Here is a picture of what you need to look for on MBZ to identify if the car has ceramiclear or not. The C on the paint code is the identifier on the tag on the drivers door right next to the year of manufacturing (always there on MBZ)

I hope this helps.
 
Hunter09 said:
Is the live show this Thursday?
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Haven't even discussed with management or Yancy about doing a live broadcast of the 1967 Mustang if that's what you're talking about?


Sign-up: 1967 Mustang GTA Fastback - Show Car Makeover!



If and when we do a Live Broadcast we usually promote it a week ahead of time and you'll see me mention it at the bottom of the forum homepage plus in the actual sign-up thread.

Haven't seen much in the way of "discussion" in the last few we did nor any requests for any in the future.


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Just read through this. I have nothing to add, but I learned a lot! Thanks guys!
 
Hello-
I was approached by my boss to do her 07 MB S Class with C040 paint. It has some light scratches on the hood and oxidation as its an unmaintained DD. Will something like BFTPS on a white pad on a GG6 clean it up?
Im not aiming for 90% but I do want to make it look nice
thank you
 
BlackRam said:
Hello-
I was approached by my boss to do her 07 MB S Class with C040 paint.

It has some light scratches on the hood and oxidation as its an unmaintained DD. Will something like BFTPS on a white pad on a GG6 clean it up?

Im not aiming for 90% but I do want to make it look nice
thank you
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The Blackfire Total Polish and Seal is a one-step cleaner/wax and I wouldn't try to use a one-step cleaner/wax to remove defects or maintain a Ceramiclear finish.

Get the Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover and Finishing Glaze. Then seal with a non-cleaning wax or paint sealant.


Don't skimp on abrasive technology



The paint is already too thin from the factory in my opinion.


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This was my first job with ceramic clear. This is a Mercedes benz C class imported from Germany.Client told me car have a ceramic clear & Car was buffed by some body else before I detail it. As you guise told I have used foam pad with Meguiar's Dual action polish but it didn't work out so I moved ahead and used wool pad with meguiar's Diamond cut on a small portion. It worked great. I am also uploading a before after image of car's trunk-lid. I don't know weather I did right or wrong but client liked the car. Was there anything else that I can do?
 
surajprasade said:
This was my first job with ceramic clear. This is a Mercedes benz C class imported from Germany.Client told me car have a ceramic clear & Car was buffed by some body else before I detail it. As you guise told I have used foam pad with Meguiar's Dual action polish but it didn't work out so I moved ahead and used wool pad with meguiar's Diamond cut on a small portion. It worked great. I am also uploading a before after image of car's trunk-lid. I don't know weather I did right or wrong but client liked the car. Was there anything else that I can do?
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Looks god:props:
To be honest there is no right or wrong while doing this job, All paints I treated them differently because what may works in one car doe not mean will dictate how to correct a specific type of paint. You do what needs to be done to get it done!!!!!
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surajprasade said:
I have used foam pad with Meguiar's Dual action polish but it didn't work out
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I've used M83 for years, probably decades and it's a quality polish but you would have to use it with a foam cutting pad to get good cutting action out of it, especially with a DA Polisher.

I don't think you mentioned what type of tool you're using? My guess is a rotary buffer.


surajprasade said:
so I moved ahead and used wool pad with meguiar's Diamond cut on a small portion. It worked great.
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Yep... sounds like you're using a rotary buffer since you said you used a wool pad with M85 Diamond Cut Compound.


surajprasade said:
Was there anything else that I can do?
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Hope you re-polished with something less aggressive than the compound and the wool pad and even switched to a dual action polisher or my guess is you left holograms all over the paint on this Mercedes-Benz.


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I was just on the Autogeek Detailing 101 group and saw a post showing a guy wetsanding his Mercedes-Benz.

I DON'T know that the paint on his Mercedes-Benz has the Ceramiclear finish on it or not, I did ask him?

But here's the deal, if you wetsand the factory finish on a Mercedes-Benz that has the factory Ceramiclear finish...

My guess is you just completely removed the fumed mica component of the paint that made the paint swirls and scratch resistant.

You couldn't pay me to sand on a Ceramiclear finish and I've owned two cars with this paint system.


Just a heads-up... don't wetsand everything that pulls into your driveway, do some research first.


:)
 
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