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Can I use a blue point micro surface prep tool to remove the scratches from my windows without messing them up? The scratches arent deep but they are eveywhere on all of my windows.. item number is at402mca. It is used with an air compressor. has levels low and high..
 
chrisnkaitlin said:
Can I use a blue point micro surface prep tool
to remove the scratches from my windows without messing them up?
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I personally would never use this type of "grinder"
in an attempt to polish scratches from auto-glass.

And:...:welcome: to AGO!!

Bob
 
Use a DA, CarPro rayon glass polishing pads, and Cerri Glass. It's a tried and true method. There are multiple write ups here how to do it. Any other combo - let us know how it comes out and good luck.
 
I'm going to say yes, I have the exact one and have used when polishing headlights. The main issue is the small orbit, like 3/32, takes a lot longer than a larger throw machine.

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here's another question lol.. could i use a buffer from harbor frieght and get great results.. i dont wanna buy an expensive buffer for a one time kinda thing...
 
Hey Bob, the tool in question is actually a da sander, made for nib sanding dirt spots. It has a very small orbit, making it really nice for finish sanding. I would say its similar to the small rupes, but with a smaller stroke/ orbit.

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I've used both, and yes you can do descent with a harbor freight, provided you have prior experience using them.

Are you asking about the harbor freight da, or rotary buffer?

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i just dont want to mess up my auto glass... im trying to do it right. and i just read up on harbor freight and you can't put any pressure or anything on them... be a waste of money imo.. since your saying its fine to use this little tool im going to give it a shot. do you think id get great results? im a newbie to all of this so all advice is well taken.. i also thought about one of those dewalt polishers. on amazon they are pretty cheap... but if this tool will work i rather save the money. its just a one time deal or maybe a Porter Cable 7424XP
 
chrisnkaitlin said:
i just dont want to mess up my auto glass... im trying to do it right. and i just read up on harbor freight and you can't put any pressure or anything on them... be a waste of money imo.. since your saying its fine to use this little tool im going to give it a shot. do you think id get great results? im a newbie to all of this so all advice is well taken.. i also thought about one of those dewalt polishers. on amazon they are pretty cheap... but if this tool will work i rather save the money. its just a one time deal or maybe a Porter Cable 7424XP
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The Harbor Freight DA is a powerful tool. Many pro's use it. You can put pressure on it. It's more powerful than a PC. If your looking for a DA that is powerful with a lifetime warranty - get a Griot's 6" DA. That's what I use to correct glass on speed 6. It's quite powerful. Many threads here, just search.
 
I agree with swan, if you try a small spot first with your blue point tool and you're satisfied, then roll with it. But doing a entire window with a 3" pad would take days!

I own a Griots 6" , and my dad has the harbor freight version, and they both performed pretty equally when we used them side by side.

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ken tuep said:
Hey Bob, the tool in question is actually a da sander, made for nib sanding dirt spots.
It has a very small orbit, making it really nice for finish sanding.
I would say its similar to the small rupes, but with a smaller stroke/ orbit.
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Hey Ken I have several Snap-On air sanders/die grinders.
They have no load speeds well into the: "being a rotary" territory.
Something that may be contributable to having a such a smaller stroke/orbit.

BTW:
What glass sanding disks do you recommend for this tool?
Is there a need for an interface pad?

:)

Bob
 
Thanks a ton guys! I have searched ceriglass results/reviews all over the web. Love the results of it.. I did notice many used the Griot's 6" and thought about giving it a try. Looked to do very well to me.. I am going to try this handheld tool I have mentioned just to see if it works on some glass but not my car glass first.. If so Ill give it a round and ave a few bucks but it doesn't seem at to bad of a price...
 
FUNX725 said:
Hey Ken I have several Snap-On air sanders/die grinders.
They have no load speeds well into the: "being a rotary" territory.
Something that may be contributable to having a such a smaller stroke/orbit.

BTW:
What glass sanding disks do you recommend for this tool?
Is there a need for an interface pad?

:)

Bob
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Hey Bob, this isn't a rotary tool, it is a dual action sander/ polisher. I wouldn't recommend using a die grinder type tool for sanding, unless you're planning to repaint! Haha

I have used 3000 grit paper on glass to clean them with no scratching on a 6" air powered da sander. I used very soapy water as my lubricant.
I've never used this tool on glass, but I've used a 3m headlight repair kit, and the papers on it before. I've also used 1500-3000 for removal of dust nibs. It works pretty well on headlights, for the sanding steps. I personally like my Makita rotary with 3" pads for polishing them back up.

I have always used an interface pad when sanding with the lower grit paper. The 3m 3000 grit I have used without an interface, only because its sponge like.

I think the no load speeds wouldn't be much different than using a PC polisher. They will spin very fast with no load also, and could create damage if allowed to spin up before touching a painted or glass surface.

I'm not sure if I answered the questions you asked, but I tried! Haha.

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I also have an air regulator mounted to most of my small air Sanders and grinders to be able to dial them down where they are comfortable to use. 22,000 rpm is overkill for most everything except very quick metal removal, like grinding a weld.

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ken tuep said:
I have used 3000 grit paper on glass to clean them with no scratching on a
6" air powered da sander. I used very soapy water as my lubricant.

I've never used this tool on glass, but I've used a 3m headlight repair kit, and the papers on it before.

It works pretty well on headlights, for the sanding steps.
I personally like my Makita rotary with 3" pads for polishing them back up.

I'm not sure if I answered the questions you asked, but I tried!
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With you stating that you've never used the tool in question to sand glass...
My question is: Why on Earth would you ever recommend the OP to do so?

I still stand firm on my previous statements regarding this tool,
including that I'd never use this tool on auto glass.

:)

Bob
 
I'm under the assumption that he is using ceriglass, and a glass polishing pad. Not sandpaper.

I did recommend he try a small spot first, before doing the whole glass.

I might run out to the garage and pull the truck in to try this out, and give a more definitive answer.

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Chris, wait till I come back with a definite answer as to whether this tool will work.

Are you planning to sand, or just use ceriglass, and a polishing pad?

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Chris, yours is a pistol grip type machine right? Mine is a palm type, but the specs are the same as far as free speed, and orbit size. The ergonomics are different, but serve the same purpose. Mine has a built in speed regulator, I'm not sure if yours does.

I have ceriglass, but no glass polishing pads for a 3" tool. I'm going to order some 3" pads if they sell them, and report my findings.

I'll wait till you chime in with what pads you will be using, then pick some up.

I'm certain this tool will work, but would like to document my process for you and anyone else interested.


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FUNX725 said:
With you stating that you've never used the tool in question to sand glass...
My question is: Why on Earth would you ever recommend the OP to do so?

I still stand firm on my previous statements regarding this tool,
including that I'd never use this tool on auto glass.

:)

Bob
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I also never recommended he use it to sand the glass. But I will stand firm behind using it to polish the glass.

I stated I have used a 6" to CLEAN, ( usually overspray) from glass. I should have been more specific with my intentions, when I made that statement.

I appreciate you bringing all this to my attention. I speak only from direct, hands on experience.

I also assumed that because he owns a told of such caliber, that he has used it before for the intended purpose. Which is sanding and polishing in a bodyshop/ detail shop environment.

I'm taking his question, as to whether the tool will work with ceriglass to polish the scratches out. To that I say yes all day, everyday.

I do respect your opinion, and our right to disagree. No hard feelings though.:)

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