Chemical Guys now has $10,000 Gold Wax - Review Requested

It takes a "special tool" to open it...yeah, here on earth we call them allen wrenches, lol.
 
swanicyouth said:
The masses have their hands out - and they want you to work while they play X Box and eat Papa Johns all day. That's the real problem, the forced redistribution of our income. Not those that have money and didn't work for it.
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So Swanic, all those people that relied on government assistance when they lost their homes, possessions and places of employment during the Sandy storm that hit the east coast last year, they bother you? Decent self respecting americans were forced to take food stamps, and rely on government welfare programs to get by. They bother you? Ex military people who rely of government programs, they bother you, too?
It is very easy to judge from the comfort of your sofa when you are not affected...
 
hamlyn said:
So Swanic, all those people that relied on government assistance when they lost their homes, possessions and places of employment during the Sandy storm that hit the east coast last year, they bother you? Decent self respecting americans were forced to take food stamps, and rely on government welfare programs to get by. They bother you? Ex military people who rely of government programs, they bother you, too?
It is very easy to judge from the comfort of your sofa when you are not affected...
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I don't want to speak for Swanic, but I can be sure he wasn't talking about the people you are describing. The people you are describing, are what Govt programs are intended for, I agree with you 100%. He was probably talking about some of the 49,000,000 people on food stamps...many use it as a lifestyle when Uncle Sugar hands it over like candy. Yes, that's 49,000,000 people.

Census: 49% of Americans Get Gov’t Benefits; 82M in Households on Medicaid | CNS News
 
That number is mis-used.
Many of that 49% are retirees and military people.

Half of that number receives MedicAid
one seventh of that receives food stamps
less that a tenth of that receives housing assistance

Which of that 49% are we hating on?
I understand the point. It's not lost on me. It is simply poorly framed.
If one is struggling to make ends meet and takes advantage of available government programs to pull oneself up and try and improve the family's life, then we should applaud them and help them up. It is hard enough for a proud American to ask for welfare... let's not judge them.
However, if a slumlord or drug dealer drives up in a swanky Bentley and drops a grand to get it spit shined... you see where I am heading with this?
I'm simply trying to point out that there is a lot more to it than simple numbers.
There are many that will take advantage of any government program. Many are deserving Americans including your grandparents and even some of your parents.
An attorney friend of mine got laid off almost four years ago and, as time went on, had three homes foreclosed upon. My friend has liquidated all assets, gone through all retirement savings and investments and is living with parents to make ends meet. Taking unemployment benefits was the lowest point, but what can you do in these tough times?
MY friend is in that 49%.
 
Perhaps it is made with unobtainium from the distant moon of Pandora. :xyxthumbs:
 
hamlyn said:
That number is mis-used.
Many of that 49% are retirees and military people.

Half of that number receives MedicAid
one seventh of that receives food stamps
less that a tenth of that receives housing assistance

Which of that 49% are we hating on?
I understand the point. It's not lost on me. It is simply poorly framed.
If one is struggling to make ends meet and takes advantage of available government programs to pull oneself up and try and improve the family's life, then we should applaud them and help them up. It is hard enough for a proud American to ask for welfare... let's not judge them.
However, if a slumlord or drug dealer drives up in a swanky Bentley and drops a grand to get it spit shined... you see where I am heading with this?
I'm simply trying to point out that there is a lot more to it than simple numbers.
There are many that will take advantage of any government program. Many are deserving Americans including your grandparents and even some of your parents.
An attorney friend of mine got laid off almost four years ago and, as time went on, had three homes foreclosed upon. My friend has liquidated all assets, gone through all retirement savings and investments and is living with parents to make ends meet. Taking unemployment benefits was the lowest point, but what can you do in these tough times?
MY friend is in that 49%.
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Sorry about your bud man...I hear ya. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Govt assistance, this is America. You use them, find a job and move on. Once it becomes a lifestyle, or take advantage of it...it is not my job as a hard working tax payer to fund that.

I was not talking about the 49% however...that was Mitt Romney a few years ago, haha. I was referring to food stamps alone, 49,000,000 people. The actual number of people on Govt Assistance is roughly 150,000,000 in one shape or form or another. Roughly half of the US...and it continues to grow.
 
hamlyn said:
So Swanic, all those people that relied on government assistance when they lost their homes, possessions and places of employment during the Sandy storm that hit the east coast last year, they bother you? Decent self respecting americans were forced to take food stamps, and rely on government welfare programs to get by. They bother you? Ex military people who rely of government programs, they bother you, too?
It is very easy to judge from the comfort of your sofa when you are not affected...
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I don't think he was talking about them.

There's a difference between those experiencing hardship, and those unwilling to work.

I live in a fairly low income area. In fact, I make a few grand above median income for where I live... and I don't make very much! LOL. There are two camps. One camp that works hard, but relied for so long on manual labor and trade skills that are no longer in demand; and have little education or experience. Worked for one company their whole life until it folded. What can a guy who worked for an auto manufacturer from the time he graduated high school do when there are no more auto plants in the area? He has a very special set of skills that are completely useless outside of that field.

So he may get some assistance (though probably not- many who qualify refuse to accept it!), but he's still working, and he'd still be working for that same auto plant had the company not decided that his well being was worth less than the well being of the shareholders.

And then; and yes- they do exist, you have the people with their hands out. Their back sort of hurts so they should be on disability, or they had a baby in high school and think that everyone else should take care of her and her baby, and the just plain; don't work when it's free. I have flat out heard people tell me that working is stupid because there are so many welfare programs you can make a decent living without lifting a finger. They started listing off all the things to tell the doctor so you can get disability, then all the things to tell the welfare people to make sure you get your maximum food stamps, housing assistance, etc. Gaming the system for a living.

There's a huge difference between group 2 and group 1. Now I'm not saying we should end all welfare; nor am I saying we should do nothing. I'm just saying I sympathize with the bad taste left in some peoples mouths when they work to pay taxes, and some of those taxes go to people who think it's perfectly acceptable to CHOSE not to work because of the opportunities they have to collect welfare.

Boy we are really off topic... (Not that I'm helping).
 
Well put Roman...I agree with you.

That's expensive wax (I'm trying to right the ship, haha)
 
You either have to pay people a living wage or we'll have to provide them some type of assistance. Pick one and stop being immature and emotional about it. You fools should be pissed that you are subsidizing Walmart's, McDonald's, etc. employees salaries by paying for all the govt assistance that even their fulltime employees need. So you are helping those companies make bigger profits. Your anger should be directed at them.
 
I think I will wait for the $8922.43 wax.
 
$20 collinite 845 done deal, donate the balance to feeding the hungry.
 
I looked at this wax at SEMA, I'll give the, this it is a cool case. Is it worth it, I'm sure it is to someone, but not me.
On the other assistance topic. I have a good friend who is a high school level teacher in a troubled area. She had a young girl in her class telling her friends how she was excited to turn 16 drop out of school, and start having babies. Why, well it's exactly what her mother did. The more kids you have the more government assistance you get.
It's a vicious cycle and the kids ultimately lose out. How that cycle gets broken I don't know. There are absolutely people that need and deserve assistance, but there are also absolutely a lot of people abusing the system.
 
hamlyn said:
So Swanic, all those people that relied on government assistance when they lost their homes, possessions and places of employment during the Sandy storm that hit the east coast last year, they bother you? Decent self respecting americans were forced to take food stamps, and rely on government welfare programs to get by. They bother you? Ex military people who rely of government programs, they bother you, too?
It is very easy to judge from the comfort of your sofa when you are not affected...
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I don't think people who lived through a freakin' NATURAL DISASTER was what I was talking about or the tone of what I am was saying. It's pretty hard to play X Box in your house when your house it a pile of tooth picks.

That's what government programs should be for. I'm not talking about disabled people, injured soldiers, etc... here folks. I'm talking about the majority of the welfare/Medicaid recipients I deal with every day: perfectly healthy people who are to lazy to do anything but get out of bed each day.

And no I'm not affected, because its 7:30 AM on a Saturday and I'm sitting here getting ready to go to FREAKIN' WORK !!!

I can only talk about my little corner of the world and my experiences. Maybe America IS making great strides retraining, re-educating, and re-employing these people. Dunno.

Dude I'm 41 years old and have been working for 30 years straight. I have no pity on nobody who sits at home and "collects" for any period of time for whatever reason. Somehow, I always managed to find a job.
 
Most people on govt assistance do not fit your welfare queen stereotype. And stop pretending that is where all the govt money is going. They are working, just can't make it on what their income. Why is it that the period of American history, end of WWII until the 1970, is considered the nostalgic 'golden age'? Because income redistribution was at it greatest and the income gaps between the rich and the poor where the lowest.

You need customers with disposable income to buy whatever you are selling. That's why this recovering is so bad. Stock market looks like we are doing great but common peoples' lack of disposable income has not changed.
 
Lol what about the folks at bjs and costco who have iPhones, north face an uggs who have 300 dollars in items and they swipe the food stamps card and throw a hissy fit bc only 275 was covered and they have to pay 15 out of pocket? Yeah exactly. At the end of the day that money came from somewhere (our tax dollars) if a situation like that doesn't bother you than there's something wrong with you. I guess it's ok though when they all jump into their nice new "tricked out" escalade with rims and tints on it.
 
This thread got off topic quick. I will just say I hope that container it's in is worth $9,980, or you won't see me buying it.
Who do they honestly think is going to buy this though?
 
KillaCam said:
This thread got off topic quick.

^^^How True!^^^

Just an observation:
Some of the most recent posts, that do so, are reminiscent of the maxim:
"Morality binds...and blinds".
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Another regard of mine, as to the thread's topic:
Generally speaking...
There seems to be varying degrees of doubt, and even caution, which: In all manners of
scrutiny and decision making, should forever be part of an astute-reasoner's "tool box"..


:)

Bob
 
^^ Bob, will you be picking up any Gold Wax to replace your M26?
 
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