Chemical Guys v34 = WOW

[HateSwirls]

I don't understand how you got so much dusting being I got very little, the cut was great, I started off with 5 pea size drops and from there 4, after my test spot I inspected it under lights and the finish looked great, it wiped off so easy compared to any other compound I ever used.
I thought I made a decent deal, two MF pads, 32oz bottle of the v34 and a 16oz bottle of VRP for like $60.00.
I have another car to do soon and will test it on that finish.

I've been using the Meg's 105 for awhile now, I did a 50/50 comparison and I couldn't tell any diifference with the side by side results.
I love the 105 except for the dusting, I'll continue to use it being its such a good product.
After I was dome with the v34 I then used my 205 and that really finished off nicely.
I'll buy the v36 & v36 and give them a try.

For starters I don't know what you are talking about every time I use V34 I get tons of dust and it's work time is incredibly low. the initial cut is good but beyond that it sucks. It doesn't5 even always clean up it's own marring the abrasives diminish so fast. Great for almost nothing.

I agree with you to an extent, and I have used CG for some time so I am very familiar with the company. Some of the people their really try to help the rest are just poorly trained sales guys that know less about their products than you can learn from their site.
The reason I am transitioning away from CG is this simple. I have always used the Paint Correction #1/2/3. At one point they decided to change the formula and not reliable or warn their customers. Me included. within six months of sitting one of the compounds I bought separated severely. Also the compounds are significantly less effective than they used to be. Basically they wanted to go to the more expensive V line and when I didn't switch I got a bunch of watered down compounds.
So I'll leave you with this. I used them for so long because I tend to be a very loyal customer. And I also value an important business relationship between supplier and detailer. That and I didn't want to have to learn an entirely new set of chemicals. But fact is that CG only really cares about one thing and that is MONEY. So if you are in business the don't trust this company they will leave you high and dry not call you back and every time I made an order I had problems. EVERY TIME and my orders were rarely less than 1k. usually much more. So if you think they care about your business then you are sadly mistaken.

 

[Christopher.Brown]

I agree with a lot of points about CG good and bad...

- yes greg is goofy lol

- and YES their website is poorly layed out and product descriptions do nt CELARLY DEFINE the uses and DIFFERENCES from similar poducts

That being said i think they do have some great products.

At the end of the day, i think its like many other companies in MOST business.

Some things they will do well, and establish a reputation for, and other offerings will be weak products just to fill a need so they can offer the ONE STOP SHOP approach..

Thats why sites such at this and customer reviews [obviously no on the sellers site] are so helpful for research before delving in and buying. Because EVERYONE agrees there is nothing worse than being excited about a product, using 1/4 of a portion to start and finding out its CRAP!

 

[Inzane]

3) They have at least 10 products that do the same thing in each category

This is my main issue with CG. Way too many products... they've spread themselves thin. They need to trim. Retire inferior products if subsequent releases in the same category are known to be better.

I have a few select CG products. Love CW&G. Bare bones is nice. I picked up their pad cleaner recently to give it a try (haven't yet). And I also have their synthetic quick detailer (the purple one). I even picked up their basic bucket kit recently (the one with the 4.5 gal bucket, sealed lid, grit guard, 16oz CW&G and a wash mitt).

But I can't be really bothered to sort out their vast array of items and would likely look to other brands unless something specific from CG catches my notice.

 

[dlc95]

This is my main issue with CG. Way too many products... they've spread themselves thin. They need to trim. Retire inferior products if subsequent releases in the same category are known to be better.

I have a few select CG products. Love CW&G. Bare bones is nice. I picked up their pad cleaner recently to give it a try (haven't yet). And I also have their synthetic quick detailer (the purple one). I even picked up their basic bucket kit recently (the one with the 4.5 gal bucket, sealed lid, grit guard, 16oz CW&G and a wash mitt).

But I can't be really bothered to sort out their vast array of items and would likely look to other brands unless something specific from CG catches my notice.

It seems like they could afford to phase out some their offerings and concetrate on a core line up.

I actually like that Greg guy. Everyone has their prefrences, I guess.

 

[Christopher.Brown]

ive actually spoken to the media director at CG and they seem to be aware of the issues.

He said they are in the process of cleaning some things up and providing more clarity.. but its seems to be a slow road..

They are truly a volume business... i talked to 4 or 5 guys, in differnet departments, at the Inglewood hq and they all talk about how many trucks go in and out and how many countries they serve.

 

[TDC EliteDetail]

I'm not a huge fan of Greg either. He's kinda goofy. They should hire Junkman to do there video's. Then again Greg is just doing his job. I find it poor judgement to not allow negative reviews on their site. I have called customer service to tell them that I was unhappy with a product. I got a couple of discount codes I was able to double up when I phoned in orders. They have tons of duplicate products. They are in it to make money. If you are willing to buy a bottle of clay lube and a bottle of QD. Good for them you bought something you really do not need.
You have to look at it like Meg's they make junk "consumer line" to make $. Is all of it bad. No. Gold Class shampoo is actually pretty good. I actually like the Polymer detail spray. Come on though the bulk of it is junk. You would not find any pro out there using the consumer grade stuff by choice. In a pinch yes, I would. Meg's live off that retail money and fund the RD for the pro stuff then dumb it down with cheap materials and sell it at your local chain store for consumer grade products.
Another example Dodo waxes. All quality waxes. You have made for dark color paint waxes. Made for light color paint waxes. Then Hard and Soft versions of the same waxes. I would love to see comparisons side by side dark waxes on white car test and vice versus hard and soft. I think we would be hard pressed to see any huge difference to the naked eye. Are the products junk. Nope. They just happened to find a a hole in the market and filled it with their products. They did a great job doing it. They got a bunch of customers to buy 2 types of wax for a black car and two others for the silver car in the family.
Every company has a hook, hype and make products that are duds. It's our responsibility as a consumer not to buy into the hype and buy the products that work no matter who makes them. When we do get duped by the hype let our fellow detailers know about it.

Sorry a little OT but here's a link to a thread where they compared the different color DoDo wax's on white and the effect they had on it. Not a HUGE difference, but there is for sure at least some effect that it has on the look afterwards.

DODO JUICE FORUMS • View topic - Colour Charging 2... no hype, no BS, just the TEST RESULTS

As for CG I do agree that some of there products are good, but from viewing other forums and groups I've come to tend to turn the other direction with it comes to them due to Greg alone. I will say that their new MF pads are absolutely AMAZING, but then again they are just rebranded pads.

 

[SlowWRX]

I have not tried v34 but I have v36 and v38 and I really like both of them. They perform very well with no dusting and easy wipe off.

 

[k12354]

OK so here's the deal with my truck.

It's white and has had swirls for sometime now , pretty much gave up on trying to get it perfect, got a lot out using other products but a lot were left behind.

I ordered a 32oz bottle of the CG'S v34 along with they're black and orange MF cutting pads. (Great pads btw)icture:
Today it was waiting for me when I got home from work, my truck was clean so I wanted to test a small area using my DA.

First thing I noticed was the smell , yes I love spelling products, go figure. Lol
Any hoot I worked a 2x2 foot area I made only 3 passes as per the instructions on CG'S and have to tell you it's the best I've ever used.
All of the swirls were gone, I mean poof. Lol
You can imangine how excited I was to see the great results.
I'll start on my truck tomorrow and do it all.

I have the twins, and they work well too, but with the v34 there was no dusting, easy wipe off and only took a few passes.
I'll use an ultra fine machine polish afterwards then glaze,seal then wax.

I feel like a kid with a new bike
This will cut my time down a ton.
Great job CG's.

Also bought the CG'S Super Shine V.R.P, can't wait to try it out.
I think I'll be hooked on CG's from this point on.

Five start for the v34

I bought a gallon of they're Max-Suds car soap, love that too, that is all I'll buy now.

If I sound excited its becaue I really am

I'm curious. Which other product/pad combinations did you try on your truck that were unable to remove the swirls?

I'm happy for you that you found something that worked for your needs. I just can't help but wonder if the other products you tried might have achieved the same results with the MF cutting pad.

 

[HateSwirls]

Adam's Polishes

Severe Swirl Remover with their green pad.
Then I tried the m105 with the same pad but didn't get the results I was looking for so I ordered the CG'S MF cutting pad along with the v34 and with the two it removed the deep swirls.

I'm sure the MF pad will work just great with the 105 too.
I just hate the dusting.

I'm curious. Which other product/pad combinations did you try on your truck that were unable to remove the swirls?

I'm happy for you that you found something that worked for your needs. I just can't help but wonder if the other products you tried might have achieved the same results with the MF cutting pad.

 

[HateSwirls]

The v36 & v38 will be my next purchase.
In fact I'll be buying more CG'S products to try.

I have not tried v34 but I have v36 and v38 and I really like both of them. They perform very well with no dusting and easy wipe off.

 

[inDetail]

I agree with a lot of points about CG good and bad...

- yes greg is goofy lol

- and YES their website is poorly layed out and product descriptions do nt CELARLY DEFINE the uses and DIFFERENCES from similar poducts

That being said i think they do have some great products.

At the end of the day, i think its like many other companies in MOST business.

Some things they will do well, and establish a reputation for, and other offerings will be weak products just to fill a need so they can offer the ONE STOP SHOP approach..

Thats why sites such at this and customer reviews [obviously no on the sellers site] are so helpful for research before delving in and buying. Because EVERYONE agrees there is nothing worse than being excited about a product, using 1/4 of a portion to start and finding out its CRAP!

For starters I don't know what you are talking about every time I use V34 I get tons of dust and it's work time is incredibly low. the initial cut is good but beyond that it sucks. It doesn't even always clean up it's own marring the abrasives diminish so fast. Great for almost nothing.

I agree with you to an extent, and I have used CG for some time so I am very familiar with the company. Some of the people their really try to help the rest are just poorly trained sales guys that know less about their products than you can learn from their site.
The reason I am transitioning away from CG is this simple. I have always used the Paint Correction #1/2/3. At one point they decided to change the formula and not reliable or warn their customers. Me included. within six months of sitting one of the compounds I bought separated severely. Also the compounds are significantly less effective than they used to be. Basically they wanted to go to the more expensive V line and when I didn't switch I got a bunch of watered down compounds.
So I'll leave you with this. I used them for so long because I tend to be a very loyal customer. And I also value an important business relationship between supplier and detailer. That and I didn't want to have to learn an entirely new set of chemicals. But fact is that CG only really cares about one thing and that is MONEY. So if you are in business the don't trust this company they will leave you high and dry not call you back and every time I made an order I had problems. EVERY TIME and my orders were rarely less than 1k. usually much more. So if you think they care about your business then you are sadly mistaken.

I really only had one bad thing happen with CG. A wheel brush died after 3 uses. I got 4 MF towels for my troubles. They did me a solid the could have just made some excuse and sent out a new brush or refunded my money.. I told them I don't want a new wheel brush and I asked how about some MF towels. They gave me 4 and paid the shipping.
Do they have a lot of overlapping products. Yes they do. Are they in this to make money, Yup. I know I detail for money. I just happen to love doing it.
Meg's is the biggest violator. The majority of the retail consumer grade products are inferior to say the least in comparison to the detail and pro lines. They make the majority of there money through the retail grade products. That money funds R&D and advertising. I would be hard pressed to see who uses a $15 tub of Gold Class paste wax as their go to wax.
I use their Ultimate quick detailer. When I run out I'm moving straight to Garry Dean's more economical and great results.
I also used the NXT 2.0 liquid wax until I found better longer lasting sealants.
Yes so everyone has overlapping products. It's designed to confuse you. Every company makes crap products that fall short of the hype. Every company is in it to make money.