Chevrolet pays tribute to Mustang's 50th anniversary

In 1983 Chevrolet did not produce a Corvette
Flash...

There actually were 44 1983 Corvettes produced:
43 were "disassembled"; 1 is at the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, Kentucky.

Although none of these 1983s were sold---publicly or privately...
That should still qualify the Corvette as having been a "continuously-produced Muscle Car", IMHO.

Bob
 
I don't know why they say 50 more years Of rivalry. They stopped production due to poor sales. The Mustang and the corvette are the only two muscle cars that have stayed in constant production.

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You are correct. The Mustang improvements slowed to a stagnant pace because there was no competition. When Chevy brought back the Camaro is when the rivalry heated up improvements all around for The Mustang and the Camaro.

The 5.0 came back, The Boss 302 and the GT 500 and many aftermarket tuners, Steeda, Roush, Saleen, etc.

The Camaro SS, The camaro ZL1 and now the Z/28.

All of this is best for us. I will always be a Ford guy and will never even consider a Chevy. HOWEVER, I will respect them because if it wasn't or the Camaro, the Mustang would not be such a great car as it is today (that goes to the Camaro too).

For the Z/28 to beat Godzilla in a track and a Porsche Turbo S is mind boggling!! But Godzilla is coming out with the Nismo GTR supposed to be a real beast!! I think that will change everything.

I will always stick with the Mustang GT, Boss 302 or GT 500 because they have a third pedal which hardly anyone uses and can't use. A manual transmission smokes any Auto/Dual Clutch Auto or CVT any day. Old school and like it!

Either way competition is good because the consumer will get a better vehicle!!

Im the MAN
 
I'll give the Z/28 some credit first and foremost, its only available with 3 pedals IIRC, that I do like! Now before this gets out of control and I get banned again let's get down to business here, those whom wouldn't even think of sitting in one, well, that's your choice and its the Murican way but I've sat in one when they first came out and its an awesome car, cutting edge is an understatement! Let's also keep in mind that the car is a 3.8L w/TT's and yeah, the Nismo GT-R is a beast, w/o looking it up right now I believe its close to 600 hp, base car is up to what, 545 hp now, amazing times we live in. The GT-R's competition is the Porsche 911, not the "track prepped" Z/28 and how would you like to be the owner of the ZL1's, blown w/ 580 hp and this N/A Z/28 is faster...I'd be pissed off, big time!

As far as credit goes, great track car the Z is, no doubt about it and those 305's all the way around sure help, along with the "track prepped" suspension bits but at the end of the day that's what it is whereas the Icon and Godzilla can be driven right off of the dealership lot and across the country w/o even having to think about it. Sure its "only" $75K and the GT-R is well over $100k now and even a 911 is really over a $100K but the 911 in comparison here is the turbo S and that's closer to $200K if we're honest but who's getting the Z/28 for $75K, that's right, noone and where alot of them are going to end up are in mothballs waiting for Barrett-Jackson 2054. Point is this, on the track the Z has what it takes, its been proven but what do you think would happen if Nissan and Porsche did "track prepped" cars, hmmmm!

Oh and BTW we sat in the Z/28 or ZL1 at the Chicago Auto Show this past February and when we shut the door the door panels were shaking after closing, there's more to a special car than a big engine, fat tires, fat body, flares, wings, single speaker radio, etc...just sayin'. In closing, I hope GM sells every single one of them, sell em' all I say!
 
Do you mean a z28 camaro?
Not many have yet.

No, I mean a ZL1. Reason I ask is because until recently it was the baddest Camaro built, and I have driven both. Just wanted to know if you were making a judgement off of specs or seat time. Not tryin to be an ass, just curious.
 
I'm not speaking for KillaCam...

However:
-Personally...
I would never even sit in a GTR, let alone drive one.
That's just me.

-Yes...I got a chance to drive a 1969 ZL1.
{Can you believe that, (include the L88), the COPO option brought the sticker price for these '69 Camaros up to around $7,500-$8,000!!}

Before I go:
@fly07sti...Have you ever driven a ZL1 or GTR?
Thanks.


Bob

Hi Bob,
That's so cool that you got to drive the originals. Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you sit in a GTR? To answer your question, yes I have driven both. My very good friend has a mildly modded 09 GTR and I have a coworker that has a 2013 ZL1. I have driven the GTR numerous times (in the rain also) and the ZL1 just once. Both are fast and smile evoking, but I can't see spending what my coworker did on a camaro. $76k! If it were me, I'd get a "gently owned" C6 corvette and have some cash left over for a years worth of tires and track days. Now we all have our reasons as to why we buy a particular car. The whole reason I asked Cam if he had driven was to know if he was just going off of some spec or if he had any seat time in either. We can all sit here and talk about 0-60 times, 1/4 ET's, Ring lap times but people seem to forget that these are the "best" times turned out by professional drivers. Now I'm no pro driver, but I will say this. I've been at Thunder Hill and Infineon multiple times and lapped people in "faster" cars numerous times. Lastly, I'm not an "import fanboy" either because of my avatar. I have my subie which is great with the awd and constant traction when I feel like having it. I also have my tundra when I need to haul my family around, but if I want to burn some rubber I hop in my 71 big block C10. All depends on how me and the wife are feeling any certain day. Lord knows if I had an infinite bank account, I'd have all kinds of different vehicles. Sorry for the winded response.
 
I stand corrected on the spec of the GT-R in question here, I should've went over and checked my M/T. I guess it says something that a Camaro of all cars is even in the conversation but only because of the numbers, not as a total car. I'm so sorry but for that type of money I'd buy a C6 Z06 on the used car market, that is if I were even in position to buy something like that. The cars being talked about here appeal to different people and wallets, the person whom buys the 991 turbo S isn't even driving past the Chevy dealership, the Chevy buyer only sees the flag of the Camaro and the GT-R buyer is someone whom does their homework and wants the best of both worlds, IMHO anyways.
 
“Another person’s choice is nothing more than another alternative for you to consider.”





 
I stand corrected on the spec of the GT-R in question here, I should've went over and checked my M/T. I guess it says something that a Camaro of all cars is even in the conversation but only because of the numbers, not as a total car. I'm so sorry but for that type of money I'd buy a C6 Z06 on the used car market, that is if I were even in position to buy something like that. The cars being talked about here appeal to different people and wallets, the person whom buys the 991 turbo S isn't even driving past the Chevy dealership, the Chevy buyer only sees the flag of the Camaro and the GT-R buyer is someone whom does their homework and wants the best of both worlds, IMHO anyways.

Respectfully, I am not sure you've classified the typical GT-R buyer correctly. At least, not the ones I see at the Saturday morning car shows around here. They're more "tech guys" than "car guys" - also just my opinion.

The AWD cars with the latest tech may be fastest to 60mph, or down the 1/4 mile, but where's the joy in pushing the "launch control" button, holding both feet to the floor, and then letting go of the brake while you try not to crash as you zoom down 1320 feet of tarmac? ;-) (I recognize that these cars are often fastest around a race track, too, but that's a different story!)
 
I don't know why they say 50 more years Of rivalry. They stopped production due to poor sales. The Mustang and the corvette are the only two muscle cars that have stayed in constant production.

The Pinto...err...I mean the Mustang II doesn't count.:bolt:
 
Respectfully, I am not sure you've classified the typical GT-R buyer correctly. At least, not the ones I see at the Saturday morning car shows around here. They're more "tech guys" than "car guys" - also just my opinion.

The AWD cars with the latest tech may be fastest to 60mph, or down the 1/4 mile, but where's the joy in pushing the "launch control" button, holding both feet to the floor, and then letting go of the brake while you try not to crash as you zoom down 1320 feet of tarmac? ;-) (I recognize that these cars are often fastest around a race track, too, but that's a different story!)

I could see a "Techy" buying a GT-R for sure, get in, adjust everything under the sun and moon and GO FOR IT!

As far as how they sound I haven't really heard a good exhaust on one but then again, not to many cars come from the factory (guess I'm lucky here!) Even the new Corvette has to be optioned out with a good sounding exhaust but because its from the factory that counts and it sounds AMAZING! Speaking of amazing my buddy sent me a pic of the ZO6 convertable and although not a convertable guy I must say it has an undeniable look!!

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