Clay baring black cars
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I recently changed my packages to only include claying if I am polishing or at least laying down an AIO.
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Maybe not with an aggresive grade clay bar. Something mild shouldnt be a problem, if micro marring is their reason for concern.
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Would depend on the level of contamination. The first time I clayed my black car I got some marring. Since it has been maintained, claying is harmless.
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I agree. With the exception of swirled up DD paint. Most people don't even see the horrible condition their paint is in. If they have no interest in correction and their car is already a cobweb farm I wouldn't have a problem claying a dark car without polishing. Any marring from the clay would just blend right in at that point anyway. At least it would feel smooth! Lol.
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Ya but not everyone is willing to pay for paint correction. If you educate your customers it should never be a problem. I have never had a customer complain ever and if a customers wants a sealant or wax done your not going to clay the car?
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100% Agree
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Really the answer is a blend of answers on here.
Three factors limit what you can do: Clay, Contaminants, Lube.
Out of the multitudes of clays out there, you really should pick the least aggressive one and go with that. Like one of the CG clay's.
If the car is regularly clayed, go right ahead. If it hasn't been in a while, chances are you will have swirls and scratches in it, so is it bad to clay? Really your call. Also the paint colour factors in there too. A metallic hides more than a solid paint. Comes down to the customers choice and yours.
I use ONR as a lube now, but I mix it 2/3 once to 1 Litre of water in a spray bottle. Now this is much higher then what is recommended, but the added lube gives you a great barrier between the clay and the paint. I clay my cars wet, so the higher concentration makes up for the dilution of the water on the paint.
Three factors limit what you can do: Clay, Contaminants, Lube.
Out of the multitudes of clays out there, you really should pick the least aggressive one and go with that. Like one of the CG clay's.
If the car is regularly clayed, go right ahead. If it hasn't been in a while, chances are you will have swirls and scratches in it, so is it bad to clay? Really your call. Also the paint colour factors in there too. A metallic hides more than a solid paint. Comes down to the customers choice and yours.
I use ONR as a lube now, but I mix it 2/3 once to 1 Litre of water in a spray bottle. Now this is much higher then what is recommended, but the added lube gives you a great barrier between the clay and the paint. I clay my cars wet, so the higher concentration makes up for the dilution of the water on the paint.
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i learn my lesson on the hard way , i claybar a new black s5 and lucky the car was schedule for 1 step polish , but i did see how was left after claybar.
since than no more claybar only for black cars, is even wash and wax or 1 step polish.
i do explain the clients who insist for it and if they say i do it.
it all depends what`s your standard, most black cars will marr/haze and if they have soft paint or are brand new will show worse than when you start with it.
claybar= wetsand in X000 grit .... like any detailer here , what comes after wetsand?....POLISH my friend. period!
since than no more claybar only for black cars, is even wash and wax or 1 step polish.
i do explain the clients who insist for it and if they say i do it.
it all depends what`s your standard, most black cars will marr/haze and if they have soft paint or are brand new will show worse than when you start with it.
claybar= wetsand in X000 grit .... like any detailer here , what comes after wetsand?....POLISH my friend. period!
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do a non metalic black new audi, porsche , bmw , bentey ( all this car paint are softer), or most new non metalic black cars.
i use fine clay , is been a while since i did that car. if works for you great!
but on anything dark color i don`t sell that service. keeps me away from any headache.
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Meg's consumer line clay bar (white) is one of the mildest & yet effective that I use for soft black paint.
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If we are talking rail/brake dust you would be amazed at how effective iron-x can be to chemically decontaminate a vehicle without claying.
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Todd, I fully understand that everyone won't buy a full correction........for dark vehicals(mainly Black) if its a wash and wax.....no clay.
if they want the vehical to feel smooth then I'll talk them into a light polish at the least...then clay will come into play.Now with that being said I am not a full time detailer,I work a 50-70hr ,highly stressfull job and detail for salvation and relaxation.
most of my customers want the full treatment.
Iron-x is what I use the most.....then clay if the customer is willing to pay.
I would do a small spot to see if some maring occurs....if no then go ahead but if you see maring or hazing I would look at plan B, that a polishing step may be in order.
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If thats what you sold them then do it.